Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:31 am
Even Sam himself has said he made a 'huge misjudgement'.
Papers reporting he walked yesterday with no pay off.
Papers reporting he walked yesterday with no pay off.
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BWFC_Insane wrote:Even Sam himself has said he made a 'huge misjudgement'.
Papers reporting he walked yesterday with no pay off.
The other 8 are alleged by agents. That is the difference.boltonboris wrote:They reckon they have 7 managers (5 Prem and 2 Championship) and 1 Prem Assistant Manager too.
They're only releasing the details of the assistant manager (apparently he may even be a 'former' assistant). So they're saying they're doing this for the sake of football and for transparency. But yet have only named the 1 bloke, who according to reports, was the LEAST guilty of all of them
A piece by our very own DSBmidlands exile wrote:Most intelligent article I have seen on this matter:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-f ... 83590d9cfa" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Shame our politicians aren't held to these squeaky clean standards and forced to resign from Parliament.BWFC_Insane wrote: When you are a public figure you have to be squeaky clean.
Hoddle stated his religious beliefs, which most people may disagree with, but the last time I looked we have freedom of religious beliefs in this country. Do you think that Buddhists should be banned from public life due to their views on karma and reincarnation?BWFC_Insane wrote:It doesn't take much common sense to know that as a senior highly paid representative of an organisation, if you start openly criticising that organisation and explaining how to "circumvent" its rules and you get caught, you're for the sack.
Sam knew it, which is why he walked yesterday.
I'd be fascinated to know if those who think the FA could, conceivably have kept Sam, feel they should have kept Hoddle?
When you are a public figure you have to be squeaky clean. That is the world we live in. One may hate the media, I do, but again, we can't get rid of the press, they exist and they weren't going to let this go. Again, the FA can only live in this world, not an imaginary one that we'd all like to. They cannot make the headlines stop, the pressure stop, nor can they be allowed to be seen as endorsing the messages Sam was giving out.
Of course what the Telegraph did was absolutely shitty. And yes it may be thrown out in a legal sense, but an employer in any other circumstance would use it against their employee. People are sacked (and many agree on here) in public life, for far less than Sam Allardyce was. I said when he got the job he'd have to be squeaky clean, even an idiot knew that. Sam knew that. He fecked up.
Hadn't seen that, cheers for the pointer!Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:A piece by our very own DSBmidlands exile wrote:Most intelligent article I have seen on this matter:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-f ... 83590d9cfa" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/allard ... 24044.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's been like that since the minimum wage was abolished because chairmen were deliberately losing snooker games to their star players and the winnings amounted to way more than their wages!TANGODANCER wrote:Bottom line, it just shows how the once noble sport of football has become a snake pit of financial corruption ruled by greed and personal gain. Foreign investment, dodgy agents, investors prepared to buy football clubs to keep their personal fortunes away from the tax man..etc, etc. Sam has not been very clever about guarding himself and his job from the media vipers who make a living from raking (and making) up shit. It all stinks.
I read it, but it didn't offer anything, beyond "he only did what lots of others do". Yes, lots of others who aren't England manager.midlands exile wrote:Hoddle stated his religious beliefs, which most people may disagree with, but the last time I looked we have freedom of religious beliefs in this country. Do you think that Buddhists should be banned from public life due to their views on karma and reincarnation?BWFC_Insane wrote:It doesn't take much common sense to know that as a senior highly paid representative of an organisation, if you start openly criticising that organisation and explaining how to "circumvent" its rules and you get caught, you're for the sack.
Sam knew it, which is why he walked yesterday.
I'd be fascinated to know if those who think the FA could, conceivably have kept Sam, feel they should have kept Hoddle?
When you are a public figure you have to be squeaky clean. That is the world we live in. One may hate the media, I do, but again, we can't get rid of the press, they exist and they weren't going to let this go. Again, the FA can only live in this world, not an imaginary one that we'd all like to. They cannot make the headlines stop, the pressure stop, nor can they be allowed to be seen as endorsing the messages Sam was giving out.
Of course what the Telegraph did was absolutely shitty. And yes it may be thrown out in a legal sense, but an employer in any other circumstance would use it against their employee. People are sacked (and many agree on here) in public life, for far less than Sam Allardyce was. I said when he got the job he'd have to be squeaky clean, even an idiot knew that. Sam knew that. He fecked up.
Lord Ashley, the veteran disabled rights campaigner, said the following re: Hoddle, which basically could be copied and pasted into any of today's news stories:Did you read the Matthew Syed article? Or did you just keep repeating the same flawed argument as before?
- He was offended by the remarks but the manager was entitled to his opinions.
An aggressive media, a weak Football Association and his own lack of judgment have finished the manager.
A sad day for British tolerance and freedom of speech.
The protests about the remarks amounted to a witch hunt .
I agree. It stinks. MP's will always call for the sacking of public figures who have done wrong, but then suddenly don't like those rules turned round on them.Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:Shame our politicians aren't held to these squeaky clean standards and forced to resign from Parliament.BWFC_Insane wrote: When you are a public figure you have to be squeaky clean.
Anyone?boltonboris wrote:a PINT. of wine
I love him
On the table in front of him, was a pint of wine - Paddy Power saw it too and knocked this upBruce Rioja wrote:Anyone?boltonboris wrote:a PINT. of wine
I love him