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Re: Football League plan Rooney Rule to boost ethnic manager

Post by malcd1 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:08 am

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:If this is the way to solve stuff then I demand that at least one of the following should be interviewed, provided they have whatever certificate is relevant:

LGBT
Women
Disabled
Gingers
Young person under the age of 24
Older person over the age of 64

Whilst we're at it we should apply this to the FL, the FA, UEFA, FIFA and the non-league.

Apologies if I've missed out a minority group.
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Re: Football League plan Rooney Rule to boost ethnic manager

Post by malcd1 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:22 am

I know this was discussed a while ago but it is worth putting the link up again. It is an interview with Kieron Dyer and Titus Bramble discussing the Rooney Rule.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -Rule.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Football League plan Rooney Rule to boost ethnic manager

Post by Prufrock » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:46 am

boltonboris wrote:Who would you have as manager

John Terry or Rio Ferdinand
Rob Hall or Zach Clough
Bolasie or Seamus Coleman
Raheem Sterling or Jordan Hendersen
Neil Lennon or John Barnes
Lennon and Ferdinand.

How you can begin to make a guess on the others I don't know. I don't think I've ever heard Hall, Bolasie or Coleman even speak!
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Re: Football League plan Rooney Rule to boost ethnic manager

Post by boltonboris » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:48 am

Prufrock wrote:
boltonboris wrote:Who would you have as manager

John Terry or Rio Ferdinand
Rob Hall or Zach Clough
Bolasie or Seamus Coleman
Raheem Sterling or Jordan Hendersen
Neil Lennon or John Barnes
Lennon and Ferdinand.

How you can begin to make a guess on the others I don't know. I don't think I've ever heard Hall, Bolasie or Coleman even speak!
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Re: Football League plan Rooney Rule to boost ethnic manager

Post by Prufrock » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:51 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Vertigo wrote:Why would any club choose a black manager over a better white manager? Why would any club choose a white manager over a better black manager?
Exactly. Had I spunked a shitload of cash, ala Eddie Davies, into a football club and needed a manager that could possibly get us out of it then the last thing I'd be looking at is the colour of his or her skin. It's as ridiculous as judging Lennon on as to which side of the sectarian divide he sits (if either)!
Do you not thing every board in the FTSE 100 would say the same thing about the gender of their CEOs?
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Re: Football League plan Rooney Rule to boost ethnic manager

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:30 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Vertigo wrote:Why would any club choose a black manager over a better white manager? Why would any club choose a white manager over a better black manager?
Exactly. Had I spunked a shitload of cash, ala Eddie Davies, into a football club and needed a manager that could possibly get us out of it then the last thing I'd be looking at is the colour of his or her skin. It's as ridiculous as judging Lennon on as to which side of the sectarian divide he sits (if either)!
Do you not thing every board in the FTSE 100 would say the same thing about the gender of their CEOs?
Yes and with some justification - the next tier of management down is predominantly male (if you're looking at internal candidates) and predominantly male (if you're looking at external candidates) that have some track record. So the pool they're picking from isn't balanced and therefore much more likely to result in a male appointment (and actually a male being the "best" person for the job). It is changing, but slowly.

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Post by Prufrock » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:05 pm

Ah yes, it's turtles all the way down.
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Post by malcd1 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:12 pm

Prufrock wrote:Ah yes, it's turtles all the way down.
Male turtles of course. We don't want of them female ones do we?
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Re: Football League plan Rooney Rule to boost ethnic manager

Post by jaffka » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:24 pm

Whatever variable a person can have, some people will find fault (rightly or wrongly) and not be happy.

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Post by Worthy4England » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:27 pm

Prufrock wrote:Ah yes, it's turtles all the way down.
Our CEO is female (as is the CFO). Interestingly, with all that clout (CEO is 51% of the decision making process ;-) ) , the Board is still 75% male.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:10 am

Prufrock wrote:Ah yes, it's turtles all the way down.
And they're green, which is brilliant. :)
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Re: Football League plan Rooney Rule to boost ethnic manager

Post by boltonboris » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:53 pm

Our old pal Robbie Blake posted a picture of him and his group from a coaching course, one of those UEFA A or B license things.. Anyway, there's about 30 of them on the picture (Paul Robinson included)

Only 3 of them were black..

Anyone can sign up to these course.. Absolutely anyone, so why so few Black people?
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Re: Football League plan Rooney Rule to boost ethnic manager

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:17 pm

^^ maybe they believe the Rooney Rool means they don't need to ???
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