Chelsea offer their Full Support
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His record is untouchable.Bruce Rioja wrote:He's a smarmy, tiresome, smug prick and I only hope that this truly is the last we ever hear of him. 'Best manager ever'? Are you having a laugh here, my friend?BWFC_Insane wrote:Still think this is a bit stupid, they had in my view the best manager ever. Last time they couldn't adequately replace him and had to bring him back.
Ok if they can get Guardiola. Beyond that there isn't anyone close to Mourinho's pedigree around.
I'd have been waiting to see how things went next season before sacking him.
Mind he is now free to join the Bolton revolution once our billionaire owners are revealed.....
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Bruce Rioja wrote: He's a smarmy, tiresome, smug prick and I only hope that this truly is the last we ever hear of him. 'Best manager ever'? Are you having a laugh here, my friend?
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That purple nosed piss pot who used to manage the rags is the best manager ever. I wish it weren't true but it is.BWFC_Insane wrote:His record is untouchable.Bruce Rioja wrote:He's a smarmy, tiresome, smug prick and I only hope that this truly is the last we ever hear of him. 'Best manager ever'? Are you having a laugh here, my friend?BWFC_Insane wrote:Still think this is a bit stupid, they had in my view the best manager ever. Last time they couldn't adequately replace him and had to bring him back.
Ok if they can get Guardiola. Beyond that there isn't anyone close to Mourinho's pedigree around.
I'd have been waiting to see how things went next season before sacking him.
Mind he is now free to join the Bolton revolution once our billionaire owners are revealed.....
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His record is brilliant but undermined by the fact that he can't stick it out at one club. Presumably because of his twattish bullying personality and divide and rule tactics tthat backfire after a while. He's a first class c*nt and I hope he never returns to these shores.
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Not for me. Up there, but majority of his career was at the biggest and richest English club. He has a huge advantage of establishing himself and then being above most criticism.CrazyHorse wrote:That purple nosed piss pot who used to manage the rags is the best manager ever. I wish it weren't true but it is.BWFC_Insane wrote:His record is untouchable.Bruce Rioja wrote:He's a smarmy, tiresome, smug prick and I only hope that this truly is the last we ever hear of him. 'Best manager ever'? Are you having a laugh here, my friend?BWFC_Insane wrote:Still think this is a bit stupid, they had in my view the best manager ever. Last time they couldn't adequately replace him and had to bring him back.
Ok if they can get Guardiola. Beyond that there isn't anyone close to Mourinho's pedigree around.
I'd have been waiting to see how things went next season before sacking him.
Mind he is now free to join the Bolton revolution once our billionaire owners are revealed.....
Mourinho won things in Spain, Portugal, England and Italy. Different environments and he conquered them all.
Whether you like him or not is irrelevant. And whether he is one, two three etc also irrelevant. He's one of the best of all time, without question and replacing him isn't easy, even if this season the results have been disastrous.
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He's good for three seasons tops and it all goes to sh*t after that, as has been evidenced at all of his previous clubs. No long-term thinking with him at all.
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at the moment, I'd be happy enough with three good seasons!
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I don't think we could afford him. And even if we could all the newsreaders on BBC are in total agreement that he'd lost the dressing room. We need a manager that values all our assets and doesn't find chunks of the infrastructure disappearing from view.
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He's better than good but it's the timeline like you say that stops him being the best. It's very clear that he can't do what Ferguson did, we'll never know if AF could've moved around and had success like Mourinho has. Man Utd would've had the potential to go the way of Chelsea when big stars were playing up. AF moved them on with little or no effect on results and trophies. He also brought countless young players through the ranks, Mourinho just stifles his, even refusing to play them after being 'betrayed' by his regulars.jmjhb wrote:He's good for three seasons tops and it all goes to sh*t after that, as has been evidenced at all of his previous clubs. No long-term thinking with him at all.
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Another thing Ferguson never did was forget where the kitchen was, or mislay the boardroom, and he never once lost his dressing room. I agree, as a person I would probably have twatted him if he turned up for my Missus's Nativity play, and I detest Man United with a passion...but that cxnt knew how to manage a football team. If he'd been managing Portsmouth from the beginning of his career I can with no doubt whatsoever hear BWFC-I complaining I was because he'd been managing the richest club in England. That's because sometimes quality engenders success which generates fortunes. (A few others I don't like but who are similar in different enterprises are/were Ford, Branson, Musk, and those fxckers who founded Microsoft - Ferguson were that good. But I hate him).
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Mourinho proved himself in numerous different environments, Fergie didn't beyond Aberdeen then Man U.
No comparison for me.
Cloughie is a better discussion but different eras make it harder.
If I could have any manager in the world right now at my fictional football club it'd be Mourinho every time.
No comparison for me.
Cloughie is a better discussion but different eras make it harder.
If I could have any manager in the world right now at my fictional football club it'd be Mourinho every time.
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Now you really are having a laugh. I could manage Real Madrid and they'd come top two - just like Lennon at Celtic. But no - Lennon's a calamity of a manager, isn't he?!BWFC_Insane wrote:Not for me. Up there, but majority of his career was at the biggest and richest English club. He has a huge advantage of establishing himself and then being above most criticism.CrazyHorse wrote:That purple nosed piss pot who used to manage the rags is the best manager ever. I wish it weren't true but it is.BWFC_Insane wrote:His record is untouchable.Bruce Rioja wrote:He's a smarmy, tiresome, smug prick and I only hope that this truly is the last we ever hear of him. 'Best manager ever'? Are you having a laugh here, my friend?BWFC_Insane wrote:Still think this is a bit stupid, they had in my view the best manager ever. Last time they couldn't adequately replace him and had to bring him back.
Ok if they can get Guardiola. Beyond that there isn't anyone close to Mourinho's pedigree around.
I'd have been waiting to see how things went next season before sacking him.
Mind he is now free to join the Bolton revolution once our billionaire owners are revealed.....
Mourinho won things in Spain, Portugal, England and Italy. Different environments and he conquered them all.
Whether you like him or not is irrelevant. And whether he is one, two three etc also irrelevant. He's one of the best of all time, without question and replacing him isn't easy, even if this season the results have been disastrous.
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Mourinho won things in Spain, Portugal, England and Italy. Different environments and he conquered them all.
Substitute Holland for Italy, & I think Bobby Robson did that. With f4ck all money.
Substitute Holland for Italy, & I think Bobby Robson did that. With f4ck all money.
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... AND fckg crackers too.Il Pirate wrote:Mourinho won things in Spain, Portugal, England and Italy. Different environments and he conquered them all.
Substitute Holland for Italy, & I think Bobby Robson did that. With f4ck all money.
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Mourinho won the Chumps league with Porto and then later with Inter knocking out Barcelona at their very best. Like him or loathe him, few can hold a candle to him but Ferguson (spit) is the better manager imo
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Initially, I was going to say Ferguson on gut feeling then I looked at Mourinho's win rate and the fact Ferguson only managed two wins out of 16, head to head and I think Mourinho is probably in front.
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Winning the league in Spain meant being better than that Barcelona side. No small accomplishment.Bruce Rioja wrote:
Now you really are having a laugh. I could manage Real Madrid and they'd come top two - just like Lennon at Celtic. But no - Lennon's a calamity of a manager, isn't he?!
But then that is just one part. Winning the champions league with Porto and Inter is remarkable given the circumstances, especially Porto.
Doesn't really matter whether you want to put him above or below Clough, Ferguson etc. He is still up there however you slice it.
I also don't think you can compare Lennon who won a league of very poor quality in a two horse race with Mourinho who has won major leagues across Europe, the champions league and numerous cups.
Lennon is totally unproven in a competitive league without huge financial advantage. Mourinho proved his ability under a variety of circumstances in tough leagues and at the highest level.
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Who cares either way really? Ferguson or mourinho - what do you like best sh%t in your sandwich or wee in your beer?
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Perhaps. If either fancied rocking up to manage BWFC though Id be absolutely delighted...thebish wrote:Who cares either way really? Ferguson or mourinho - what do you like best sh%t in your sandwich or wee in your beer?
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BWFC_Insane wrote:Perhaps. If either fancied rocking up to manage BWFC though Id be absolutely delighted...thebish wrote:Who cares either way really? Ferguson or mourinho - what do you like best sh%t in your sandwich or wee in your beer?
which of them has displayed the manager skills we need?
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