European Finals.

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Re: European Finals.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:00 pm

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Germany have playmakers in their midfield. Their midfield lends itself to their system.

We've had a couple of chances, but they've been in through the middle a few times due to sharp passing and we can't do that unless Kane drops deep.

Either they will make a forced mistake, Kane will do something insane or they will win. Unless we change it.
This. Germany have more quality going forwards than we do and in Hummels they have that ‘you won’t score’ feel with world class defender who will block everything. England have to change it because over time Germany have more and more chance to pick us off. We need to find ways to get in behind the Germans out wide more consistently. Saka is playing well but he’s doing it too deep for me.

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Re: European Finals.

Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:04 pm

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For Southgate it seems Kane is undroppable.
Southgate's entire system is based around keeping clean sheets and hoping Kane will be world class.

That's why he's undroppable. Without Kane you actually need a plan of attack.

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Re: European Finals.

Post by Mar » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:12 pm

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Mar wrote:
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For Southgate it seems Kane is undroppable.
Southgate's entire system is based around keeping clean sheets and hoping Kane will be world class.

That's why he's undroppable. Without Kane you actually need a plan of attack.
I think his system is based on Kane exposing spaces for wingers. Almost to the detriment of Kanes regular game.

Don't see Rashford offering any better

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Re: European Finals.

Post by Harry Genshaw » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:12 pm

Kane's looked like a competition winner this half. Its like he has no idea what he's supposed to be doing.

We're not doing too badly but they look so much better in possession than we do.
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Re: European Finals.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:14 pm

Sterling just runs. He has no idea what to do at the end of it.

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Re: European Finals.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:17 pm

It’s pretty obvious watching this that England need changes because Germany are the better side. Has been obvious since half time really. Southgate stands there - no idea what’s going on in his brain but it’s slipping away as is.

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Re: European Finals.

Post by Mar » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:20 pm

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Kane's looked like a competition winner this half. Its like he has no idea what he's supposed to be doing.

We're not doing too badly but they look so much better in possession than we do.
Competition winner definitely. Biggest one since Walcott

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Re: European Finals.

Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:22 pm

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I think his system is based on Kane exposing spaces for wingers.
If that's his plan against a 3 then he's an idiot (I support the suggestion). Against a 4, sure. With a three the spare man can track Kane if he wants and they still have cover. That's why Sterling and Saka keep running into a crowd. Worse still, Kane just steps into their holding mids.

If the plan was for Kane to drop and us to create overloads in behind then we'd need the midfielders running past Harry. It's not happening.

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Re: European Finals.

Post by Harry Genshaw » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:22 pm

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It’s pretty obvious watching this that England need changes because Germany are the better side. Has been obvious since half time really. Southgate stands there - no idea what’s going on in his brain but it’s slipping away as is.
Agreed. Just feels like we're drifting towards a meek defeat. Why not change the formation and personnel to mix it up and stretch the German defence?
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Re: European Finals.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:25 pm

Saka off well that’s just….no words.

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Re: European Finals.

Post by Burnden Paddock » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:26 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
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Sterling just runs. He has no idea what to do at the end of it.

Agreed. He could always try passing the feckin ball once in a while.

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Re: European Finals.

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:32 pm

Burnden Paddock wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:26 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:14 pm
Sterling just runs. He has no idea what to do at the end of it.

Agreed. He could always try passing the feckin ball once in a while.
I agree, but who the fcuk is he going to pass it to? Kane? Shaw? Both been nowhere for three games...


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Re: European Finals.

Post by Mar » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:35 pm

Burnden Paddock wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:26 pm
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Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:14 pm
Sterling just runs. He has no idea what to do at the end of it.

Agreed. He could always try passing the feckin ball once in a while.
We score directly after Sterling finds a pass to Kane who would've thought it

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Re: European Finals.

Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:35 pm

fecking have it.

Southgate is still utterly shit, but I'll take any win we can scrape.

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Re: European Finals.

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:37 pm

Mar wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:35 pm
Burnden Paddock wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:26 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:14 pm
Sterling just runs. He has no idea what to do at the end of it.

Agreed. He could always try passing the feckin ball once in a while.
We score directly after Sterling finds a pass to Kane who would've thought it
Did he use a ouija board. Kane has been like a fcuking lamp post?

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Re: European Finals.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:38 pm

Jesus Christ. Need fresh legs in midfield here. Something crazy.

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Re: European Finals.

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:43 pm

Wonderful.

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Re: European Finals.

Post by Burnden Paddock » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:45 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:37 pm
Mar wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:35 pm
Burnden Paddock wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:26 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:14 pm
Sterling just runs. He has no idea what to do at the end of it.

Agreed. He could always try passing the feckin ball once in a while.
We score directly after Sterling finds a pass to Kane who would've thought it
Did he use a ouija board. Kane has been like a fcuking lamp post?
Let’s slag them all off and see how many score? 😂

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Re: European Finals.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:45 pm

Burnden Paddock wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:45 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:37 pm
Mar wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:35 pm
Burnden Paddock wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:26 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:14 pm
Sterling just runs. He has no idea what to do at the end of it.

Agreed. He could always try passing the feckin ball once in a while.
We score directly after Sterling finds a pass to Kane who would've thought it
Did he use a ouija board. Kane has been like a fcuking lamp post?
Let’s slag them all off and see how many score? 😂
Kane is rubbish. One goal all tournament. Awful.

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Re: European Finals.

Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:45 pm

Apparently, just throwing Grealish on blindly really is enough.

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