Brum - Thick and Fast (A) - 15 Aug 19:45

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Re: Brum - Thick and Fast (A) - 15 Aug 19:45

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:45 pm

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Re: Brum - Thick and Fast (A) - 15 Aug 19:45

Post by truewhite15 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:47 pm

Any away point is a good point. Especially with a clean sheet. We've no reason to fear Derby.

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Re: Brum - Thick and Fast (A) - 15 Aug 19:45

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:51 pm

Decent point. Happy with that.

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Re: Brum - Thick and Fast (A) - 15 Aug 19:45

Post by Harry Genshaw » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:58 pm

truewhite15 wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:47 pm
Any away point is a good point. Especially with a clean sheet. We've no reason to fear Derby.
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Re: Brum - Thick and Fast (A) - 15 Aug 19:45

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:46 pm

Good point, but becomes less so if we can't convert 3 at home at weekend.

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Re: Brum - Thick and Fast (A) - 15 Aug 19:45

Post by Prufrock » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:30 am

Not just a point but sounds like we competed and were well worth it. Match goers, how much did we rely on Nadine?
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Re: Brum - Thick and Fast (A) - 15 Aug 19:45

Post by bristol_Wanderer3 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:43 am

Back from the game, some quick points, I don't have time for a more thorough write up:

1.) If I was to score the match on points it would be BWFC 5.5, Birmingham 4.5.
2.) Very few chances in the game for either team. Howard reacted well to save a deflected shot in the first half, we only really had half chances. Madine forced the keeper to save, Armstrong had two efforts wide, a near post header, and a low shot from about 20 yards after he had created some space for himself. Pratley also fired wired when the ball was cleared out to him.
3.) Our defence was solid. Burke again was the stand out performer. He is quality both defending and with the ball at his feet, and will play in the Prem. Dervite and Beevers did nothing wrong also.
4.) Morais played 90mins and played well and made a big difference. He was always an outlet, and put loads of crosses into the box, and had as many blocked by their left back. We have another dimension when he is playing.
5.) The midfield played in a rigid formation with Cullen in the middle, Pratley on the right and Karacan on the left. They all defended well and probably all had 7/10 games. We kept and passed the ball really well for periods of this game.
6.) Armstrong offered a bit more than ALF does. He covers more ground, can run better with the ball, and gets into more areas between their defence and midfield. That coupled with the fact that we showed more courage on the ball, and were prepared to try and keep the ball in tight situations meant that we looked a lot more fluent, and we did have an alternative to the Madine directed punt. We still did quite a bit of that though.
7.) Birmingham defended well, but in the attacking areas were very, very poor. To the extent it is hard to know if that wasn't 2 points dropped.
8.) It is good to see improvement and progression. I would wager this was our most polished performance this season so far. The only thing missing was someone who could do something to create a clear chance or score a goal. That is the concern I have for us if we were to repeat this performance going forward. We would match many teams in this league, but how many goals would we score, and how many games would we win? Without a dose of quality and ruthlessness the answer to both might be "not too many".

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Re: Brum - Thick and Fast (A) - 15 Aug 19:45

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:06 am

bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:43 am
Back from the game, some quick points, I don't have time for a more thorough write up:

1.) If I was to score the match on points it would be BWFC 5.5, Birmingham 4.5.
2.) Very few chances in the game for either team. Howard reacted well to save a deflected shot in the first half, we only really had half chances. Madine forced the keeper to save, Armstrong had two efforts wide, a near post header, and a low shot from about 20 yards after he had created some space for himself. Pratley also fired wired when the ball was cleared out to him.
3.) Our defence was solid. Burke again was the stand out performer. He is quality both defending and with the ball at his feet, and will play in the Prem. Dervite and Beevers did nothing wrong also.
4.) Morais played 90mins and played well and made a big difference. He was always an outlet, and put loads of crosses into the box, and had as many blocked by their left back. We have another dimension when he is playing.
5.) The midfield played in a rigid formation with Cullen in the middle, Pratley on the right and Karacan on the left. They all defended well and probably all had 7/10 games. We kept and passed the ball really well for periods of this game.
6.) Armstrong offered a bit more than ALF does. He covers more ground, can run better with the ball, and gets into more areas between their defence and midfield. That coupled with the fact that we showed more courage on the ball, and were prepared to try and keep the ball in tight situations meant that we looked a lot more fluent, and we did have an alternative to the Madine directed punt. We still did quite a bit of that though.
7.) Birmingham defended well, but in the attacking areas were very, very poor. To the extent it is hard to know if that wasn't 2 points dropped.
8.) It is good to see improvement and progression. I would wager this was our most polished performance this season so far. The only thing missing was someone who could do something to create a clear chance or score a goal. That is the concern I have for us if we were to repeat this performance going forward. We would match many teams in this league, but how many goals would we score, and how many games would we win? Without a dose of quality and ruthlessness the answer to both might be "not too many".
That is the concern. When things settle down, I have no question we can compete. But where are the goals coming from consistently? Perhaps Armstrong will get going and bag a few. Vela is a huge miss in this regard? We have three non scoring midfield players.

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Re: Brum - Thick and Fast (A) - 15 Aug 19:45

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:48 am

bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:43 am
Back from the game, some quick points, I don't have time for a more thorough write up:

1.) If I was to score the match on points it would be BWFC 5.5, Birmingham 4.5.
2.) Very few chances in the game for either team. Howard reacted well to save a deflected shot in the first half, we only really had half chances. Madine forced the keeper to save, Armstrong had two efforts wide, a near post header, and a low shot from about 20 yards after he had created some space for himself. Pratley also fired wired when the ball was cleared out to him.
3.) Our defence was solid. Burke again was the stand out performer. He is quality both defending and with the ball at his feet, and will play in the Prem. Dervite and Beevers did nothing wrong also.
4.) Morais played 90mins and played well and made a big difference. He was always an outlet, and put loads of crosses into the box, and had as many blocked by their left back. We have another dimension when he is playing.
5.) The midfield played in a rigid formation with Cullen in the middle, Pratley on the right and Karacan on the left. They all defended well and probably all had 7/10 games. We kept and passed the ball really well for periods of this game.
6.) Armstrong offered a bit more than ALF does. He covers more ground, can run better with the ball, and gets into more areas between their defence and midfield. That coupled with the fact that we showed more courage on the ball, and were prepared to try and keep the ball in tight situations meant that we looked a lot more fluent, and we did have an alternative to the Madine directed punt. We still did quite a bit of that though.
7.) Birmingham defended well, but in the attacking areas were very, very poor. To the extent it is hard to know if that wasn't 2 points dropped.
8.) It is good to see improvement and progression. I would wager this was our most polished performance this season so far. The only thing missing was someone who could do something to create a clear chance or score a goal. That is the concern I have for us if we were to repeat this performance going forward. We would match many teams in this league, but how many goals would we score, and how many games would we win? Without a dose of quality and ruthlessness the answer to both might be "not too many".
Thanks Bristol. That's useful.
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Re: Brum - Thick and Fast (A) - 15 Aug 19:45

Post by officer_dibble » Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:11 pm

And for our next trick, a (league) goal from open play...

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Re: Brum - Thick and Fast (A) - 15 Aug 19:45

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:38 pm

officer_dibble wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:11 pm
And for our next trick, a (league) goal from open play...
Saturday. It's on the cards, maybe more than one.. :wink:
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