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[squares641]

I do get a bit concerned with some people who's only rationale for deciding who would be a good owner for our club is who will put the most money in. It doesn't seem to matter how potentially dubious they might be. This seems to be a common thread amongst football fans.

It's not just the moral issue of this type of decision making that I don't like it's also the short sightedness. Generally speaking if someone has a "dodgy" history then they usually don't invest in things for any other reason than their own gain and it tends to end badly. I would like whoever does take on the club yes to have resources to push the club on but as importantly really care for it's wellbeing.

Just my thoughts people

[Hoboh]

I'm at the point right now, I really don't give a shit who owns the club as long as the tax bill is paid and there is no 12 point deduction forthcoming!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I do get a bit concerned with some people who's only rationale for deciding who would be a good owner for our club is who will put the most money in. It doesn't seem to matter how potentially dubious they might be. This seems to be a common thread amongst football fans.

It's not just the moral issue of this type of decision making that I don't like it's also the short sightedness. Generally speaking if someone has a "dodgy" history then they usually don't invest in things for any other reason than their own gain and it tends to end badly. I would like whoever does take on the club yes to have resources to push the club on but as importantly really care for it's wellbeing.

Just my thoughts people

And fine thoughts too. I was just pointing out that Mr Tamraz's dodgy history is slightly tainted by the extraordinary dodginess of his persecutors. It's like saying "Fxck me, you can't trust that Mandela fella, he's been in prison y'know!"

[Lost Leopard Spot]

^ Plus, I'm not overly convinced of the moral argument of a small clique manipulating 'community cause' to their agenda, especially when the only community led aspect of their entire enterprise was to assemble a bunch of people and ask for a show of hands to establish what had already been decided upon. You do know, don't you, that the domain name of bwfcst had been bought five years previously? You do know, don't you, that not one single, community led or democratic vote has taken place since that show of hands? You do know, don't you, that a small clique is pressing ahead behind the scenes to buy the club according to a secret business plan?
And you lecture us about morals???

[LeverEnd]

I'd say your shadowy clique is going to get the nod Spotty. Seems like ED has been delaying to give them time to catch up.
I don't have a preferred bidder. Like Hoboh I just want to be put out of my misery.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I'd say your shadowy clique is going to get the nod Spotty. Seems like ED has been delaying to give them time to catch up.
I don't have a preferred bidder. Like Hoboh I just want to be put out of my misery.

I fear you might be right. I don't really have a preferred bidder, I have more like a non-preferred bidder.

[bobo the clown]

It's not just the moral issue of this type of decision making that I don't like it's also the short sightedness.

Generally speaking if someone has a "dodgy" history then they usually don't invest in things for any other reason than their own gain and it tends to end badly. I would like whoever does take on the club yes to have resources to push the club on but as importantly really care for it's wellbeing.

Just my thoughts people

... & money laundering g. Don't overlook money laundering.

[Worthy4England]

It's not just the moral issue of this type of decision making that I don't like it's also the short sightedness.

Generally speaking if someone has a "dodgy" history then they usually don't invest in things for any other reason than their own gain and it tends to end badly. I would like whoever does take on the club yes to have resources to push the club on but as importantly really care for it's wellbeing.

Just my thoughts people

... & money laundering g. Don't overlook money laundering.

There's times when I'm glad that I have the morals of an alley cat.

There's been plenty of questions raised about how Abramovich made his money. Glazers are hardly whiter than white. Usmanov at Arsenal hardly an angel. And it's fair to say Shinwatra might have done the odd questionable business transaction before passing the baton onto a Prince of a country where human rights abuses are commonplace. That's just some of the successful ones. It's not ended particularly badly (so far) for the teams concerned.

For those, there are plenty of Carson Yeung's...

I'm not convinced that "dodgy" is necessarily an indication of asset stripping thug. So hopefully we get a decent, dodgy, oligarch, tyrant.

[BWFC_Insane]

I'd say your shadowy clique is going to get the nod Spotty. Seems like ED has been delaying to give them time to catch up.
I don't have a preferred bidder. Like Hoboh I just want to be put out of my misery.

Trust say they've heard nothing. Nixon claims Tamraz has been dealing direct with Eddie and cut out Birch et al.

If that is true it doesn't sound like the trust are favourites to me. Big if of course!

[Lord Kangana]

So just me hoping for the trust then?

I guarantee you'll all regret this Tamraz fella in the end.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I'm hoping for the Koreans.

[plymouth wanderer]

I'm at the point right now, I really don't give a shit who owns the club as long as the tax bill is paid and there is no 12 point deduction forthcoming!

Here here.

I too couldn't give a feck. It's all a bit of a circus act atm.

If Sports Shield had any real money it'd be done by now!

[plymouth wanderer]

I do get a bit concerned with some people who's only rationale for deciding who would be a good owner for our club is who will put the most money in. It doesn't seem to matter how potentially dubious they might be. This seems to be a common thread amongst football fans.

It's not just the moral issue of this type of decision making that I don't like it's also the short sightedness. Generally speaking if someone has a "dodgy" history then they usually don't invest in things for any other reason than their own gain and it tends to end badly. I would like whoever does take on the club yes to have resources to push the club on but as importantly really care for it's wellbeing.

Just my thoughts people

And fine thoughts too. I was just pointing out that Mr Tamraz's dodgy history is slightly tainted by the extraordinary dodginess of his persecutors. It's like saying "Fxck me, you can't trust that Mandela fella, he's been in prison y'know!"

I get you

Let's be honest though. Most of these billionaires would've stepped on a few toes/heads to make their money! They all have skeletons in there closets!

[BWFC_Insane]

So just me hoping for the trust then?

I guarantee you'll all regret this Tamraz fella in the end.

Trust are backed by some wealthy and unnamed individuals or organisations. Until we know who they are and what motives they have I'm not sure the Trust are anymore solid than anyone else.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I do get a bit concerned with some people who's only rationale for deciding who would be a good owner for our club is who will put the most money in. It doesn't seem to matter how potentially dubious they might be. This seems to be a common thread amongst football fans.

It's not just the moral issue of this type of decision making that I don't like it's also the short sightedness. Generally speaking if someone has a "dodgy" history then they usually don't invest in things for any other reason than their own gain and it tends to end badly. I would like whoever does take on the club yes to have resources to push the club on but as importantly really care for it's wellbeing.

Just my thoughts people

And fine thoughts too. I was just pointing out that Mr Tamraz's dodgy history is slightly tainted by the extraordinary dodginess of his persecutors. It's like saying "Fxck me, you can't trust that Mandela fella, he's been in prison y'know!"

I get you

Let's be honest though. Most of these billionaires would've stepped on a few toes/heads to make their money! They all have skeletons in there closets!

Oh yes, he's undoubtedly dodgy, just no more dodgy than any other self made billionaire. I'm not a fan of his, but I wouldn't say no to his money.
From my perspective there are rules in place (supposedly) to protect us from not fit and proper persons. I'm relying on that test to eject him from the process rather than innuendo and internet articles claiming he was sentenced by a Lebanese military court.

[Lord Kangana]

Seriously though?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Seriously though?

Obviously not, hence the (supposedly).

[Lord Kangana]

Ah, got you.

[BWFC_Insane]

There would have to be concerns about anyone taking over.

We have, as far as we know three main players.

The Supporters Trust, backed by local businesses/individuals. Do not know the extent of backing nor the motives behind it. They are run currently by an interim self-appointed committee and at least one of those on the committee seems to have waged some sort of internet war with selected other Bolton fans.

Sports Shield, a collection of mystery investors fronted by Dean Holdsworth. Supposedly planning to go down a leveraged buyout route. Which it should be noted is not in itself a bad thing but obviously has a level of risk attached.

Roger Tamraz, an international billionaire with his fingers in many pies, who has a chequered history to say the least. He clearly has resources but whether he'd commit them to Bolton and why, are quite important questions. Also he's 70 which brings into question the longevity of any potential takeover here and what happens if like Eddie he gets to a point where he's had enough.

One thing I know is that we cannot carry on as is, so Eddie/the club is going to have to try and pluck out the best option from there.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

There would have to be concerns about anyone taking over.

We have, as far as we know three main players.

The Supporters Trust, backed by local businesses/individuals. Do not know the extent of backing nor the motives behind it. They are run currently by an interim self-appointed committee and at least one of those on the committee seems to have waged some sort of internet war with selected other Bolton fans.

Sports Shield, a collection of mystery investors fronted by Dean Holdsworth. Supposedly planning to go down a leveraged buyout route. Which it should be noted is not in itself a bad thing but obviously has a level of risk attached.

Roger Tamraz, an international billionaire with his fingers in many pies, who has a chequered history to say the least. He clearly has resources but whether he'd commit them to Bolton and why, are quite important questions. Also he's 70 which brings into question the longevity of any potential takeover here and what happens if like Eddie he gets to a point where he's had enough.

One thing I know is that we cannot carry on as is, so Eddie/the club is going to have to try and pluck out the best option from there.

You forgot the Koreans.