Which muppet can we appoint next?

[BWFC_Insane]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... e_defence/

He does talk sense here. I particularly agree with his comment about needing "men" to supplement what we've got. We certainly don't need anymore donkeys that is for sure......

Meanwhile, Deano says he and Ken will have to start getting along for the good of the club....

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The man with the money calls the shots, I think that's Anderson.

The only link I can think of that remotely looks like our well known other co-owners in football is Lyndsey Dawn

I think that is up for serious debate right now.

[Hoboh]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... e_defence/

He does talk sense here. I particularly agree with his comment about needing "men" to supplement what we've got. We certainly don't need anymore donkeys that is for sure......

Meanwhile, Deano says he and Ken will have to start getting along for the good of the club....

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... erers_quot_/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Does he really BWFCI, can you point me in the direction of where he actually says this - I took it as that they will have to agree on a few decisions not that they have fallen out & dislike each other.

In most partnerships the two parties have differing opinions, which they eventually agree a compromise to enable them to move forward - but it doesn't mean that they dislike each other, which is what you are basically saying / fabricating.

I hope I'm wrong PT but I reckon the 'give them time' etc. for this bunch, wouldn't work out in the next decade.

[Hoboh]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... e_defence/

He does talk sense here. I particularly agree with his comment about needing "men" to supplement what we've got. We certainly don't need anymore donkeys that is for sure......

Meanwhile, Deano says he and Ken will have to start getting along for the good of the club....

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... erers_quot_/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The man with the money calls the shots, I think that's Anderson.

The only link I can think of that remotely looks like our well known other co-owners in football is Lyndsey Dawn

I think that is up for serious debate right now.

Well she has done adult movies

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... e_defence/

He does talk sense here. I particularly agree with his comment about needing "men" to supplement what we've got. We certainly don't need anymore donkeys that is for sure......

Meanwhile, Deano says he and Ken will have to start getting along for the good of the club....

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... erers_quot_/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I read those headlines wanting to believe; Reid wouldn't be my first choice but it feels increasingly likely that we might end up with him, so I'm trying to adjust my expectations. And obviously we need Dean&Ken to sing from at least the same hymnbook, if not always the same sheet. But when you read the actual quotes, there's not much meat apart from a few gristly statements of the obvious...

Whoever is in charge, they’d better know this is going to be a tough job, that’s the first thing. The embargo has to go. In this league you need to go out there and sign some men. But it can be changed around. It comes down to basic stuff – doing the defending, seeing games out, staying solid. It has been too easy to score goals against Bolton recently and it has to stop.
Up next: Pope 'Catholic' claim.

Wigan managed to turn things around and I look at Big Sam at Sunderland. What a job. I saw him concede six early on at Goodison Park against Everton but now you are looking at a team which is strong at the back which you can build from.
Wigan had double the typical League One budget and were loaning people we couldn't afford two years ago, let alone now. They also didn't have the best defensive record in the division, but easily the best goalscoring rate. Sunderland are unarguably well-coaches but also spent £15m in January.

I’m not saying the players haven’t worked hard but I think they’re doing it in the wrong areas. Every footballer is an athlete nowadays, the pitches are great and the game has moved on. This lot needs a good pre-season and we need to get them out there lasting 90 minutes. When you look at all the numbers at the end of the game you want to see your team has run more than the opposition. I am not saying you’ll win games that way all the time but it shows you they are putting it in for you.
This bit's fair enough but "run till you puke" hardly helps the idea that Reid is a progressive manager. If you're running it's often because you're trying to get the ball back...

Bolton fans always stick with the team. They want to see their team working their guts out. It has been a difficult time for them but they carry on turning up in numbers and the lads are lucky to have them.
Fans are good, I like fans.

There are decisions to make and it isn’t always going to be easy, no-one is always going to agree. But I am confident we can get to where we want to be for the good of the club. The one thing I will always do is make decisions for the good of this club. Otherwise there is no point me being here, or anyone else, it has to be for this club. It’s why we went through months and months of hell to get this place. I love it.
Flannel and obviousness.

It is difficult. I feel that if the neutral was there and understood what we have had to deal with in this process, they would understand why we have done what we have done. I think they’d have some empathy. All the months melt into each other but back when we were minutes away from administration the fact we’re still here and fighting I look upon as a plus. I try to be positive rather than negative with everything. We knew there would be some tough decisions to come.
Bit of self-pity, although I do admire his determination to see the positives - we might need that.

I can’t look at the criticism because we are trying to do the right thing. That, to me, is most important. There isn’t another reason. I won’t be going missing. I will be here, working every day to set out pre-season and put things in place for the next person who is appointed. They will have a good team around them because it is important.
Yeah, it is important, but saying that sounds empty and slightly desperate. I wish Deano all the best but there's not much in here bar well-meaning hot air.

[Peter Thompson]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... e_defence/

He does talk sense here. I particularly agree with his comment about needing "men" to supplement what we've got. We certainly don't need anymore donkeys that is for sure......

Meanwhile, Deano says he and Ken will have to start getting along for the good of the club....

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... erers_quot_/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Does he really BWFCI, can you point me in the direction of where he actually says this - I took it as that they will have to agree on a few decisions not that they have fallen out & dislike each other.

In most partnerships the two parties have differing opinions, which they eventually agree a compromise to enable them to move forward - but it doesn't mean that they dislike each other, which is what you are basically saying / fabricating.

It really doesn't matter if they love or hate each other. I couldn't care less. What is important is that there is clarity on who makes what decisions. And how those decisions are made.

Clear from this interview that previous reporting (which you dismissed as rubbish I hasten to add) about disagreement over the next manager, process and shortlist were on the nose.

They need to sort it out. Though Iles and Nixon are both suggesting there are bigger problems of a financial nature that are a priority right now.

Yes it looks like they have disagreed about the next manager, but you said that 'that they need to start getting along for good of the club' which is more fabricated bollocks from you.

But like I said disagreeing about the choice of manager doesn't make them dislike each other - your just making stuff up about them to try & discredit them, as you do on a daily basis.

Most of us on here disagree about the who the next manager should be, why would they be different - but when they sit down in a room with a shortlist of 3 or 4 (one of them will want one, the other will want someone different), but I'm sure that they will find a compromise and appoint the right person (as long as its not Peter Reid). However, according to you no one wants the job anyway and everyone has turned it down, even though the owners haven't yet even agreed on who they want !

[BWFC_Insane]

Yes it looks like they have disagreed about the next manager, but you said that 'that they need to start getting along for good of the club' which is more fabricated bollocks from you.

But like I said disagreeing about the choice of manager doesn't make them dislike each other - your just making stuff up about them to try & discredit them, as you do on a daily basis.

Most of us on here disagree about the who the next manager should be, why would they be different - but when they sit down in a room with a shortlist of 3 or 4 (one of them will want one, the other will want someone different), but I'm sure that they will find a compromise and appoint the right person (as long as its not Peter Reid). However, according to you no one wants the job anyway and everyone has turned it down, even though the owners haven't yet even agreed on who they want !

I am not saying they don't get on. I said that it was clear Ken was doing his own thing and Deano his. That looks to be the case now. And that needs to stop.

They weren't even in the same process, let alone disagreeing over 2 candidates.

But that aside, Iles was basically Sports Shield's moutpiece during the takeover. He had Deano's ear and more or less did his PR for him. Do you really believe he's gone from that to "chief shitstirrer" overnight for a laugh? Or do you think perhaps there is a little more substance to the various rumours than perhaps you are willing to concede?

[StaffsTrotter]

Yes it looks like they have disagreed about the next manager, but you said that 'that they need to start getting along for good of the club' which is more fabricated bollocks from you.

But like I said disagreeing about the choice of manager doesn't make them dislike each other - your just making stuff up about them to try & discredit them, as you do on a daily basis.

Most of us on here disagree about the who the next manager should be, why would they be different - but when they sit down in a room with a shortlist of 3 or 4 (one of them will want one, the other will want someone different), but I'm sure that they will find a compromise and appoint the right person (as long as its not Peter Reid). However, according to you no one wants the job anyway and everyone has turned it down, even though the owners haven't yet even agreed on who they want !

I am not saying they don't get on. I said that it was clear Ken was doing his own thing and Deano his. That looks to be the case now. And that needs to stop.

They weren't even in the same process, let alone disagreeing over 2 candidates.

But that aside, Iles was basically Sports Shield's moutpiece during the takeover. He had Deano's ear and more or less did his PR for him. Do you really believe he's gone from that to "chief shitstirrer" overnight for a laugh? Or do you think perhaps there is a little more substance to the various rumours than perhaps you are willing to concede?

guess what happens when there is no board. sounds to me that they need a 3rd party with a casting vote - volunteer yourself insano

[BWFC_Insane]

Yes it looks like they have disagreed about the next manager, but you said that 'that they need to start getting along for good of the club' which is more fabricated bollocks from you.

But like I said disagreeing about the choice of manager doesn't make them dislike each other - your just making stuff up about them to try & discredit them, as you do on a daily basis.

Most of us on here disagree about the who the next manager should be, why would they be different - but when they sit down in a room with a shortlist of 3 or 4 (one of them will want one, the other will want someone different), but I'm sure that they will find a compromise and appoint the right person (as long as its not Peter Reid). However, according to you no one wants the job anyway and everyone has turned it down, even though the owners haven't yet even agreed on who they want !

I am not saying they don't get on. I said that it was clear Ken was doing his own thing and Deano his. That looks to be the case now. And that needs to stop.

They weren't even in the same process, let alone disagreeing over 2 candidates.

But that aside, Iles was basically Sports Shield's moutpiece during the takeover. He had Deano's ear and more or less did his PR for him. Do you really believe he's gone from that to "chief shitstirrer" overnight for a laugh? Or do you think perhaps there is a little more substance to the various rumours than perhaps you are willing to concede?

guess what happens when there is no board. sounds to me that they need a 3rd party with a casting vote - volunteer yourself insano

They've already got Townsend for that. Though he is Ken's friend, so not sure that will work.....

[Harry Genshaw]

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He looks like Dougie after a particularly heavy night out in that pic.

I'm not anti Reid tbh. After reading that finance stuff yesterday I'm still worried about us losing 12 points next season so whoever takes us on will have their work cut out. Reid might be the best we can attract

[LeverEnd]

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He looks like Dougie after a particularly heavy night out in that pic.

I'm not anti Reid tbh. After reading that finance stuff yesterday I'm still worried about us losing 12 points next season so whoever takes us on will have their work cut out. Reid might be the best we can attract

Exactly. Next manager could well be a fall guy before we really bottom out.
I don't know where PTs faith in the new regime comes from really. It appears to be a massive mess and everything going on suggests it will get worse.

[Prufrock]

Classic PT, to be fair,

[thebish]

optimism = classic PT? I don't think so - it's a refreshing change!!

[boltonboris]

I want to know when PT became a happy clapper

[Peter Thompson]

I want to know when PT became a happy clapper

Never have been & never will be, I just think the new guys should be given a fcuking chance instead of all the knee jerk bollocks just because Iles tweets a pile of utter made up shite or some article is put on the internet.

They've been in the job 2 minutes, and inherited an absolute sack of shit from the previous regime. No one knows what's going on behind the scenes - good or bad, but at least give them a chance before judging.

[thebish]

given we might have to dust off our Peter Reid shirts... I looked up his managerial record to see if my "he's a disaster" opinion bears out...

it looks like a mixed record..

at Citeh - 20-odd years ago - and not in the 3rd division - he managed 1.5 PPG over the best part of three seasons

at Blunderland - 15 years ago - and also not in the 3rd division - he managed 1.62 PPG over the best part of 7 seasons

then he peaked...

England U21 - a PPG of 3 - and he kept that up for 1 game!

then it all started to slide a bit...

Leeds - 13 years ago - a PPG of exactly 1 kept up over just 22 games - dog end of one season/unsuccesful start to the next

Coventry - in division 2, so a bit closer - a PPG of 1.2 - over about 30 games

then a marked improvement as he breaks into international management:

Thailand - a PPG of 1.8 - over more games than his england career - 17 games

Plymouth Argyle - and this was the 3rd division!! - 5 years ago - a PPG of 0.93 - his lowest ever... it didn't go well and only lasted 61 games

finally - abroadland again - Mumbai City - PPG of 1.4 over 14 games - their inaugural season... he was replaced by another of our old boys - Anelka...


so - there it is - not an unmitigated disaster... so I may need to reassess that..

my fear remains that he may not really understand the modern game - he always sounds like a bit of a footballing dinosaur... but then - we've had sparkly modern managers with modern ideas and sharp suits - see Freedman!

[thebish]

I want to know when PT became a happy clapper

Never have been & never will be, I just think the new guys should be given a fcuking chance instead of all the knee jerk bollocks just because Iles tweets a pile of utter made up shite or some article is put on the internet.

They've been in the job 2 minutes, and inherited an absolute sack of shit from the previous regime. No one knows what's going on behind the scenes - good or bad, but at least give them a chance before judging.

amen to all of that!

[BWFC_Insane]

I want to know when PT became a happy clapper

Never have been & never will be, I just think the new guys should be given a fcuking chance instead of all the knee jerk bollocks just because Iles tweets a pile of utter made up shite or some article is put on the internet.

They've been in the job 2 minutes, and inherited an absolute sack of shit from the previous regime. No one knows what's going on behind the scenes - good or bad, but at least give them a chance before judging.

Everyone is giving them a chance are they not? Writing that things may be going a bit shit on a message board is not the same as demanding their exit from the club and petulantly refusing to enter the stadium until they're gone is it?

The limited information that is coming out, doesn't sound massively encouraging to me. But I'm far from writing them off. I agree they've inherited a total shambles (nice legacy ED) and it is very tough for them.

Saying that reports or rumours or whatever are concering, makes absolutely zero difference. Either they are of genuine concern or in the fullness of time it will be shown they aren't.

[thebish]

rumours - and the perpetual spreading of them CAN be destabilising... I'm not sure you could always be sure that they make "zero difference". Deano has made veiled reference to trying to ignore them and get on with the job...

[BWFC_Insane]

rumours - and the perpetual spreading of them CAN be destabilising... I'm not sure you could always be sure that they make "zero difference". Deano has made veiled reference to trying to ignore them and get on with the job...

Within organisations perhaps. But not interested outsiders discussing stuff. If they got to the stage of being damaging it is very easy to stop them. I'm sure the media department at Bolton could manage to knock something up in about 10 minutes.

When they MAY be damaging is IF there is either some truth, or a lot of truth in them. In which case it makes little difference. Anyhow Iles is the source of these rumours and Deano seems happy enough to talk to him....I dare say a lot of the rumour comes direct from Deano himself...

[BWFC_Insane]

Iles says that Neil Redfearn is "in the frame".

More convinced than ever now that it is Reid's job and the likes of Redfearn will be rumoured to make Reid seem more appealing....