Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

[BWFC_Insane]

What's the Fraser report based on?

Just usual tittle tattle. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying we should sign him and Wigan are look how stupid we are…he may go elsewhere and we clearly cannot spend money. But just pointing out for me that’s the sort of player we need a midfield player to chip in with goals.

[GhostoftheBok]

Just usual tittle tattle. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying we should sign him and Wigan are look how stupid we are…he may go elsewhere and we clearly cannot spend money. But just pointing out for me that’s the sort of player we need a midfield player to chip in with goals.

No, I get you. I'm just wondering whether it's gossip or solid, because I don't see how Wigan pay a fee without an actual announcement that they are financially straight.

[BWFC_Insane]

Just usual tittle tattle. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying we should sign him and Wigan are look how stupid we are…he may go elsewhere and we clearly cannot spend money. But just pointing out for me that’s the sort of player we need a midfield player to chip in with goals.

No, I get you. I'm just wondering whether it's gossip or solid, because I don't see how Wigan pay a fee without an actual announcement that they are financially straight.

They paid off unsecured creditors which according to their local press is what is required to get out of the restrictions. By implication it seems we haven’t done that yet.

[Ibahjanner]

Lund a name that I considered including in the CM blog post but he didn't quite make the cut due to age and injury history.

Your oppo at Argyle Life included him, although without your level of insight

http://argyle.life/opinion/top-10-free- ... ders-2021/

Signed none of them but Jordan Houghton signed.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Feels like there's a lot of noise coming out of Wigan right now. Some signal too - they've made five signings, of whom four were L1 regulars last season and one played 19 times in the Champo – but they do seem, well, a lot noisier than us.

Not complaining – I like us doing our business discreetly, even if it makes this thread harder. Just saying, let's see.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

As for will aimson he is good with the ball at his feet but against a burly centreforward not so clever. Consensus down here he is better in a back four than a back three.

Cheers, friend. Intriguing that the consensus is he suits a four more than a three, given he's had triple promotions in a three. I won't argue with consensus, but I wonder if there's an element of him just not fitting? Did he excel in a four?

Yes three promotions on paper looks good until you see that with Blackpool he played 18 matches that season and with us he played five games. Last season when playing a back three he played on the right of the three this meant he was covering the wing back position as well when he went caught out upfield. The season before in the matches I seen him he was in the centre of the three and looked more comfortable. A back four suiting him I put down to he has got cover either side if him. He isn't a bad player but he is never going to pull up trees for you but with the right players alongside him will do the job.

Interesting, ta. He wouldn't be in the middle of our three unless Santos was injured, and that would be A Bad Thing. I hope you're right in your hunch that he'd be better in a four, as that's the way we got promoted and the way most folks expect us to at least start the season.

[GhostoftheBok]

Feels like there's a lot of noise coming out of Wigan right now. Some signal too - they've made five signings, of whom four were L1 regulars last season and one played 19 times in the Champo – but they do seem, well, a lot noisier than us.

Not complaining – I like us doing our business discreetly, even if it makes this thread harder. Just saying, let's see.

Wigan have taken mainstay players off Sunderland, Ipswich and Pompey - in the case of Pompey two, including their captain. In doing so they've shifted 19 goals and 7 assists over from non-striker positions. I'm all for quietly does it, but any non-partisan fan looking in would rather be doing their business than ours.

Whilst taking Johnston off them was funny, we need to be realistic that we remain a couple of big signings off where we need to be.

I'm impressed that we have already got the foundations of a decent squad. I'm just hoping the quality didn't peak early. If our top signing of the window is a left back, who we already had with us last season, we're not going to do much.

Positive side: I trust Evatt to know what he needs. That means bringing in someone who can break a low block, a wide player with pace (unless Baka is that), someone worth a few goals off the bench and a decent set piece taker. Those can potentially all be the same player, but unlikely. If we get three of the four split over two players, I'll take it.

[brommers95]

Lund a name that I considered including in the CM blog post but he didn't quite make the cut due to age and injury history.

Your oppo at Argyle Life included him, although without your level of insight

http://argyle.life/opinion/top-10-free- ... ders-2021/

Too kind Sir

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Yep, Wigan have signed well, not disputing that (or overplaying our hand). Just saying that they’re being linked with a lot.

[jmjhb]

Rumours in the NE have us in for Jamie Sterry, a right-back. Ex-Newcastle, was at Hartlepool the past few months.

[BWFC_Insane]

Rumours in the NE have us in for Jamie Sterry, a right-back. Ex-Newcastle, was at Hartlepool the past few months.

25 and played only 53 ‘league and non league’ games. Not for me….

[GhostoftheBok]

Sterry did a piece with the Athletic recently about his mental health issues. In it he went into his horrendous injury record.

It's a weird situation and probably a bit off of me, but whilst I want a lad in his position to get a chance I would worry about having a player with his injury record in the squad. Severe groin injuries, hernia ops, kidney infections, hamstring troubles etc. He's had them all.

I've never seen him play, he may well be talented; but he'd be a big gamble.

[GhostoftheBok]

Here's the feature on Sterry, if people are interested.

https://theathletic.com/2333999/2021/01 ... e%20sterry

[Mar]

Sterry did a piece with the Athletic recently about his mental health issues. In it he went into his horrendous injury record.

It's a weird situation and probably a bit off of me, but whilst I want a lad in his position to get a chance I would worry about having a player with his injury record in the squad. Severe groin injuries, hernia ops, kidney infections, hamstring troubles etc. He's had them all.

I've never seen him play, he may well be talented; but he'd be a big gamble.

I think if we were to take a punt on someone with mental health issues then i'd like to see it done with a view to improving our mental health handling overall. We've had a few come through the door now that we've not managed to help out (Sordell, Maddison).

Can't say that it's been Bolton's fault really but I don't think we're kitted up to help.

I suspect that this would be a next level sort of progressive thinking that we could get behind as pioneers if we were to do such a thing.

[BWFC_Insane]

Sterry did a piece with the Athletic recently about his mental health issues. In it he went into his horrendous injury record.

It's a weird situation and probably a bit off of me, but whilst I want a lad in his position to get a chance I would worry about having a player with his injury record in the squad. Severe groin injuries, hernia ops, kidney infections, hamstring troubles etc. He's had them all.

I've never seen him play, he may well be talented; but he'd be a big gamble.

I think if we were to take a punt on someone with mental health issues then i'd like to see it done with a view to improving our mental health handling overall. We've had a few come through the door now that we've not managed to help out (Sordell, Maddison).

Can't say that it's been Bolton's fault really but I don't think we're kitted up to help.

I suspect that this would be a next level sort of progressive thinking that we could get behind as pioneers if we were to do such a thing.

I’m sure current owners and manager are very much in tune on these issues and we’d not have a Sordell issue again. I mean the thing about mental health is it’s so broad that lots of time I doubt a club could do a lot. We used to have played liaison officers who settled new players in and did basically everything for them initially including arranging their social life. This was for the big foreign stars. But I suspect with a situation like Maddison that was not of our making and probably very little we could do.

[LeverEnd]

Reading between the lines of Lee bowyer's comments Maddison was struggling at Charlton and got written off as a mard arse. We seem like the only club that has given a shit about him.
I'd love to see us take someone like this RB and resurrect his career, but realistically it's not likely to happen. We have a small staff as well by all accounts.

[GhostoftheBok]

Spoke to some mates who work in the National League. All rate Sterry as a league player.

I also watched him a bit. Neat and tidy one and two touch play. Good delivery. Press resistant. Reads the game pretty well. Tackling is a bit limp at times, but then he's more of a hybrid wingback sort of player so you expect that.

We certainly played against worse fullbacks last season.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

We certainly played against worse fullbacks last season.

I’m sure we did, but we’re not playing against them this season…

I know nowt about this lad and wish him well. On a more general note, I’m confident (despite the Evatt/Crellin hoohaa) that we will be progressive on mental health matters - the club handled the Maddison situation with quiet dignity - but as noted we won’t have huge resource and it is indeed a very wide remit.

[GhostoftheBok]

I’m sure we did, but we’re not playing against them this season…

Yup. I have no idea if we are in for him or not, but you'd have to say that if we are then there are signs that our budgets are significantly lower than a lot of people were expecting.

I was/am hoping for a player who would really push Jones and offer something different from right back. However, I supposed the other side would be that if we'd signing him straight from Newcastle, rather than after a good spell in non-league, we'd probably be more positive about a link to Sterry. Playing really well in the conference may actually be counting against him. Does look like making a budget stretch, though.

[BWFC_Insane]

I’m sure we did, but we’re not playing against them this season…

Yup. I have no idea if we are in for him or not, but you'd have to say that if we are then there are signs that our budgets are significantly lower than a lot of people were expecting.

I was/am hoping for a player who would really push Jones and offer something different from right back. However, I supposed the other side would be that if we'd signing him straight from Newcastle, rather than after a good spell in non-league, we'd probably be more positive about a link to Sterry. Playing really well in the conference may actually be counting against him. Does look like making a budget stretch, though.

Herein lies part of my problem with this modern obsession with having 3 specialists for every position. Its fine when you are Man City or Chelsea but even then the reality is that you have a world class option then a very good one then an ok one. And in reality it means your squad isn't as big as you think. When your resources are stretched though you end up with potentially diluting quality to have a larger squad. And in my view that's a bad move.

Big Sam - we never had huge squads - we made do and mended but packed as much first team quality in as we could. As a consequence Pedersen played left back, Charlton played centre back etc...

I get transfer rules are a bit different and there is a balance but I'd have thought Jones and Brockbank at RB are fine. If you have a disaster you can fix it in January. Lee can cover there too - in an emergency. We can all say ideally we'd have this and that as backup. But if you never get the injury you never need it and those players are wasted resources. For me you prioritise your strongest 13/14 outfield players over everything else. Then worry about gaps.