Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by Worthy4England » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:06 pm

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I don't think anyone would disagree but I think we're in slight danger of losing sight of the fact that playing well and creating changes tends to correlate pretty strongly with winning. No harm in winning without playing well. You're going to struggle if they're the only games you win though.

Of course a big part of playing well is defending properly and there's a been a gigantic improvement there. Still work to do on getting rid of the bathwater though.
I'm not suggesting we shouldn't create chances. :-)

Something that correlates a lot stronger to winning is keeping a clean sheet and scoring at least one! At time's we're absolutely in danger of losing sight of that fact.
Can something be said to correlate to itself :D ??
Well, I think it just has, so it's possible, aye :-)

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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:17 pm

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I did indeed think you were referring to the other end of the pitch. Evatt said after Ipswich that there was a lot more work to do and I don't disagree. But there's a fair bit less of it to do from a clean sheet than a 2 goal deficit. I neither object to us passing nor to us creating chances but they're a means to an end.

Yesterday probably wasn't our finest passing 90, but as long as they were nil we were still in it and made it count. Bearing in mind we leaked 5 to a non-league team, that felt (as with last week) to be a step in the right direction.
System and personnel are both going in the right direction.

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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by Worthy4England » Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:58 pm

Just got round to the highlights. Charles' goal gets better with each watch. I was convinced he checked his run and it was behind him. It was. And the way he shifted it from where he received it to get the shot in was absolute class.

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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:05 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:58 pm
Just got round to the highlights. Charles' goal gets better with each watch. I was convinced he checked his run and it was behind him. It was. And the way he shifted it from where he received it to get the shot in was absolute class.
Indeed. Bollocks to that bitter bell-end Steve Cotterill claiming it was a "scuffed cross" from Dapo. That was two very clever players linking up superbly, and if they can continue like that we might be on for good things.

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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:33 pm

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Bollocks to that bitter bell-end Steve Cotterill claiming it was a "scuffed cross" from Dapo. That was two very clever players linking up superbly, and if they can continue like that we might be on for good things.
Scuffed cross? I hope he has the decency to admit his nonsensical remark when he watches it back. ( He can be excused of course for editing out Vela's fresh air shot) :lol:

A class chip from Dapo and a brilliant finish from Charles.. You lost Steve, you couldn't break our defence down and we won with a super goal. That's football buddy.. :wink:
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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by LeverEnd » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:56 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:58 pm
Just got round to the highlights. Charles' goal gets better with each watch. I was convinced he checked his run and it was behind him. It was. And the way he shifted it from where he received it to get the shot in was absolute class.
Not only that, the technical and physical control to hit it that hard and not balloon it over the bar was something to behold. I just keep rewatching it.
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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by TonyDomingos » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:52 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:56 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:58 pm
Just got round to the highlights. Charles' goal gets better with each watch. I was convinced he checked his run and it was behind him. It was. And the way he shifted it from where he received it to get the shot in was absolute class.
Not only that, the technical and physical control to hit it that hard and not balloon it over the bar was something to behold. I just keep rewatching it.

Same here. I even made Mrs Domingos watch it (I can't begin to explain her complete disinterest in all things football). What was telling is that the ball had hit the back of the net and was on its way back out again before our support reacted. That's how special a goal it was.
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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by LeverEnd » Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:05 pm

TonyDomingos wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:52 pm
LeverEnd wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:56 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:58 pm
Just got round to the highlights. Charles' goal gets better with each watch. I was convinced he checked his run and it was behind him. It was. And the way he shifted it from where he received it to get the shot in was absolute class.
Not only that, the technical and physical control to hit it that hard and not balloon it over the bar was something to behold. I just keep rewatching it.

Same here. I even made Mrs Domingos watch it (I can't begin to explain her complete disinterest in all things football). What was telling is that the ball had hit the back of the net and was on its way back out again before our support reacted. That's how special a goal it was.
Ha! I did the same. Mrs LE apparently had 'must not like football' on a dating profile prior to meeting me. Met at a party and she only found out on our 2nd or 3rd date, by which time shed been bewitched by my many charms.

Even she said wow when she saw the goal. This is significant.
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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:56 am

Evatt ‘ Clean sheets win you football matches and yes, we want to be free-scoring and we think that there is more of that to come, but if you keep a clean sheet, it means you can’t lose and it gives you a platform to build from. Back-to-back clean sheets are extremely pleasing for us.’

Yep. 100 times this. The most important thing any side can have is an ability to defend. Last two games have shown that. Numbers back, defend the box. You simply have to do that at times like it or not.

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Post by officer_dibble » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:20 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:58 pm
Just got round to the highlights. Charles' goal gets better with each watch. I was convinced he checked his run and it was behind him. It was. And the way he shifted it from where he received it to get the shot in was absolute class.
Our last new signing to score a goal as good as that as his first was Anelka.

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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:43 am

officer_dibble wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:20 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:58 pm
Just got round to the highlights. Charles' goal gets better with each watch. I was convinced he checked his run and it was behind him. It was. And the way he shifted it from where he received it to get the shot in was absolute class.
Our last new signing to score a goal as good as that as his first was Anelka.
Anelkas first goal was nothing special iirc. Was at wallsall I think.

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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:44 am

“We were the better team but we just have to take one of those chances. If we do it becomes a different game."

So sayeth the Shrews boss man. "If" Mr Cotterill, is the difference. You had shots miles over our bar, no real near misses, a couple of efforts saved and the fresh-air joke shot of the year from Vela. No matter what you claim, you couldn't score, we did and won the game and points. Without malice, hard lines, better luck next time....er, I think :wink:

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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:46 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:43 am
officer_dibble wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:20 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:58 pm
Just got round to the highlights. Charles' goal gets better with each watch. I was convinced he checked his run and it was behind him. It was. And the way he shifted it from where he received it to get the shot in was absolute class.
Our last new signing to score a goal as good as that as his first was Anelka.
Anelkas first goal was nothing special iirc. Was at wallsall I think.
Now had he said against Arsenal (sorry, G.G.).... :wink:
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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by officer_dibble » Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:24 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:43 am
officer_dibble wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:20 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:58 pm
Just got round to the highlights. Charles' goal gets better with each watch. I was convinced he checked his run and it was behind him. It was. And the way he shifted it from where he received it to get the shot in was absolute class.
Our last new signing to score a goal as good as that as his first was Anelka.
Anelkas first goal was nothing special iirc. Was at wallsall I think.
I’m remembering it as the Arsenal goal first, obvs!

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:55 am

You're all obviously forgetting Liam Trotters wonder strike at Sheffield Wednesday. It was so out of character with the rest of his play, I don't know who was more shocked, us or their keeper.
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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by boltonboris » Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:59 am

Well, what a finish and what a fantastic result

Not vintage, but we do look hard to beat and I'd find a way of getting Afolayan into this system instead of Bakayoko, who continues to disappoint.

Great atmosphere and scenes after the goal went in!!
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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by sonicthewhite » Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:01 pm

boltonboris wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:59 am
Well, what a finish and what a fantastic result

Not vintage, but we do look hard to beat and I'd find a way of getting Afolayan into this system instead of Bakayoko, who continues to disappoint.

Great atmosphere and scenes after the goal went in!!
I can see Dad Bod taking Baka's spot and Dapo taking Lee's.
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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:07 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:56 am
Evatt ‘ Clean sheets win you football matches and yes, we want to be free-scoring and we think that there is more of that to come, but if you keep a clean sheet, it means you can’t lose and it gives you a platform to build from. Back-to-back clean sheets are extremely pleasing for us.’
And the winner of this year's 'State The fecking Obvious' Award iiiiiiiis...........

Where was this 'philosophy' when we were losing games hand over fist last season?

Seriously, I've shut myself off from anything he has to say. I'll just see what transpires on the pitch.
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Re: Doing it by numbers..V Shrewsury away Sat 22nd Jan. 3'oclock

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:57 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:07 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:56 am
Evatt ‘ Clean sheets win you football matches and yes, we want to be free-scoring and we think that there is more of that to come, but if you keep a clean sheet, it means you can’t lose and it gives you a platform to build from. Back-to-back clean sheets are extremely pleasing for us.’
And the winner of this year's 'State The fecking Obvious' Award iiiiiiiis...........

Where was this 'philosophy' when we were losing games hand over fist last season?

Seriously, I've shut myself off from anything he has to say. I'll just see what transpires on the pitch.
Clearly you need to work harder :D

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:16 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:57 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:07 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:56 am
Evatt ‘ Clean sheets win you football matches and yes, we want to be free-scoring and we think that there is more of that to come, but if you keep a clean sheet, it means you can’t lose and it gives you a platform to build from. Back-to-back clean sheets are extremely pleasing for us.’
And the winner of this year's 'State The fecking Obvious' Award iiiiiiiis...........

Where was this 'philosophy' when we were losing games hand over fist last season?

Seriously, I've shut myself off from anything he has to say. I'll just see what transpires on the pitch.
Clearly you need to work harder :D
:lol: A fair point, well put. :oops:
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