Schu me the way to Amarillo - Summer 2025 Transfer Thread

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

A name that I wonder might be on our radar is Ethan Wheatley. 19 year old Stockport born striker who's currently on United's books, but presumably won't get much of a sniff there this season with their expected incomings.

Disappointing loan spell with Walsall at the back-end of last season, but scored a couple for England U19s at their Euros, has been a regular goalscorer at youth level, and at 6'2" looks robust enough to cope with the demands of men's football.

Absolutely no insight into whether he's suitable for us or not, but I should imagine that he'll at least be available.

Surely if he can't shine whilst at a League Two club, he'll likely struggle at a League One club. As for his goal record, it looks good in the Premier League 2 level, but that level makes Shola Shoretire look good.

Unless we've done significant research on players at United, at that level, i'd be shying away from them. Their catchment isn't as good as it used to be and the structure of the club doesn't seem overly well run, so even players coming through I wouldn't be expecting them to be as well coached as say their Arsenal/City/Chelsea counterparts.

Transfermarkt has him on 6 goals from 9 games in the PL2. Seems reasonably good, but there's other players at the same competition level that may be worth pursuing before him. Divin Mubama (16 goals), Donnell McNeilly (13), Khayon Edwards (11) and Jake Evans (11).

What isn't overly clear however is the physicality of those players, so you may be right with Wheatley (I haven't seen him play), but we'll see.

Stats can paint a strange picture. Conor Bradley got 4 goals and 9 assists in 36 PL2 appearances. Hopefully we'll sign someone of that calibre.

All fair comment but out of interest I looked those lads up...
• Divin Mubama's just joined Stoke on loan
• Donnell McNeilly rejected a Chelsea contract and is a free agent (but would presumably cost a development fee); I imagine he ain't targeting the third tier
• Khayon Edwards (who got 0 in 7 for Orient last year) has joined Portuguese top-flighters Estoril on a permanent
• Jake Evans is still at Leicester, but then he is still only 16

Dunno what all that means, like...

[Mar]

A name that I wonder might be on our radar is Ethan Wheatley. 19 year old Stockport born striker who's currently on United's books, but presumably won't get much of a sniff there this season with their expected incomings.

Disappointing loan spell with Walsall at the back-end of last season, but scored a couple for England U19s at their Euros, has been a regular goalscorer at youth level, and at 6'2" looks robust enough to cope with the demands of men's football.

Absolutely no insight into whether he's suitable for us or not, but I should imagine that he'll at least be available.

Surely if he can't shine whilst at a League Two club, he'll likely struggle at a League One club. As for his goal record, it looks good in the Premier League 2 level, but that level makes Shola Shoretire look good.

Unless we've done significant research on players at United, at that level, i'd be shying away from them. Their catchment isn't as good as it used to be and the structure of the club doesn't seem overly well run, so even players coming through I wouldn't be expecting them to be as well coached as say their Arsenal/City/Chelsea counterparts.

Transfermarkt has him on 6 goals from 9 games in the PL2. Seems reasonably good, but there's other players at the same competition level that may be worth pursuing before him. Divin Mubama (16 goals), Donnell McNeilly (13), Khayon Edwards (11) and Jake Evans (11).

What isn't overly clear however is the physicality of those players, so you may be right with Wheatley (I haven't seen him play), but we'll see.

Stats can paint a strange picture. Conor Bradley got 4 goals and 9 assists in 36 PL2 appearances. Hopefully we'll sign someone of that calibre.

All fair comment but out of interest I looked those lads up...
• Divin Mubama's just joined Stoke on loan
• Donnell McNeilly rejected a Chelsea contract and is a free agent (but would presumably cost a development fee); I imagine he ain't targeting the third tier
• Khayon Edwards (who got 0 in 7 for Orient last year) has joined Portuguese top-flighters Estoril on a permanent
• Jake Evans is still at Leicester, but then he is still only 16

Dunno what all that means, like...

Cheers for the additional info.

Just out of interest, if McNeilly was to join say Chorley for instance would the development fee get waived? Seems like development fee is a preventative measure for them progressing their career. Presumably he could then get loaned to us on a free. Shady dealings of course, but I did have to wonder how the system would handle that.

I just figured United didn't have the best youth at the moment and we could possibly aim a tad higher, especially given our ability to bring Trafford and Bradley through. We must be a desirable target for some of these looking for a pathway into the Prem.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Just out of interest, if McNeilly was to join say Chorley for instance would the development fee get waived? Seems like development fee is a preventative measure for them progressing their career. Presumably he could then get loaned to us on a free. Shady dealings of course, but I did have to wonder how the system would handle that.

Not sure such an extreme situation has ever arisen. The key is that Chelsea, who reared him, offered him an extension that he rejected. Had they turned him loose then anyone could have had him; but because they offered him a contract they’re legally protected from scalping, which you have to say is fair, even if it’s Chelsea.

As it is, he’s said to have several EFL teams interested and to be targeting the one with the best path to the first team. So maybe…

[The_Gun]

United won the FA Youth Cup three years ago, and I’m certain have plenty of players in their system who would improve our squad.

[BWFC_Insane]

United won the FA Youth Cup three years ago, and I’m certain have plenty of players in their system who would improve our squad.

Kids that haven’t played senior football especially when they belong to others probably aren’t what we need.

[The_Gun]

United won the FA Youth Cup three years ago, and I’m certain have plenty of players in their system who would improve our squad.

Kids that haven’t played senior football especially when they belong to others probably aren’t what we need.

Lots of lads with that profile wouldn’t be what we need, but some would come in and immediately be our best player. It’s about identifying the right ones.

[BWFC_Insane]

United won the FA Youth Cup three years ago, and I’m certain have plenty of players in their system who would improve our squad.

Kids that haven’t played senior football especially when they belong to others probably aren’t what we need.

Lots of lads with that profile wouldn’t be what we need, but some would come in and immediately be our best player. It’s about identifying the right ones.

I’m thinking that in the main those types wouldn’t be coming to us as their first move. Trafford for example we weren’t his first gig.

Bradley is for me an exception to the rule but he was also a little further on in his development than many.

I’m sure there will be the odd one like that but many many more like Shoretire…

[Worthy4England]

United won the FA Youth Cup three years ago, and I’m certain have plenty of players in their system who would improve our squad.

Kids that haven’t played senior football especially when they belong to others probably aren’t what we need.

Lots of lads with that profile wouldn’t be what we need, but some would come in and immediately be our best player. It’s about identifying the right ones.

I’m thinking that in the main those types wouldn’t be coming to us as their first move. Trafford for example we weren’t his first gig.

Bradley is for me an exception to the rule but he was also a little further on in his development than many.

I’m sure there will be the odd one like that but many many more like Shoretire…

We put 8? Past one team up? Folks crowed about our well oiled machine.

Most of there kids won't make it, like most of ours. I think I read the conversion rate was somewhere near 5%?

That doesn't mean there's nothing we might be able to work with or find an exception. Shortire wasn't it.

[Harry Genshaw]

Shoretire, after a bright start, was pretty poor in the end. He was still light years ahead of the older, more experienced Etete though. Possibly our worst loan signing since Nigel Jemson.

[Bertie Wooster]

Looks like BWFCI was correct all along regarding Ceesay, if the latest interview with his agent doing the rounds is true. His agent saying that he (Ceesay) never wanted to join us & that basically it was his club pushing the deal. The Agent never asked for a large fee as Ceesay wasn't interested in joining Bolton.

Also apparently there are now bigger clubs interested - therefore all of the reports of the deal being almost done have been bullshit (including our local reporter)

[The_Gun]

Looks like BWFCI was correct all along regarding Ceesay, if the latest interview with his agent doing the rounds is true. His agent saying that he (Ceesay) never wanted to join us & that basically it was his club pushing the deal. The Agent never asked for a large fee as Ceesay wasn't interested in joining Bolton.

Also apparently there are now bigger clubs interested - therefore all of the reports of the deal being almost done have been bullshit (including our local reporter)

Is this lad really good enough to be worth the baggage he's seemingly carrying? It sounds like a situation we could do without.

Additionally, I'm not sure we need another central midfielder. The four we've got in the building are pretty good, and I wouldn't be rushing to displace any of them.

[Worthy4England]

Our midfield looked more solid today overall, gave away too much ball, but heading in the right direction.

[BWFC_Insane]

Looks like BWFCI was correct all along regarding Ceesay, if the latest interview with his agent doing the rounds is true. His agent saying that he (Ceesay) never wanted to join us & that basically it was his club pushing the deal. The Agent never asked for a large fee as Ceesay wasn't interested in joining Bolton.

Also apparently there are now bigger clubs interested - therefore all of the reports of the deal being almost done have been bullshit (including our local reporter)

Been around long enough to sniff out when something feels off and this felt off from the start. Too public. Too weird.

Last thing Iles wrote as far as I know was that the deal was far from done with personal terms not agreed. Has he said anything much beyond that? Because that to me screamed this wasn’t happening in itself. Player not in the country loads of talk but if it was serious then terms would have been worked out by then.

[The_Gun]

Looks like BWFCI was correct all along regarding Ceesay, if the latest interview with his agent doing the rounds is true. His agent saying that he (Ceesay) never wanted to join us & that basically it was his club pushing the deal. The Agent never asked for a large fee as Ceesay wasn't interested in joining Bolton.

Also apparently there are now bigger clubs interested - therefore all of the reports of the deal being almost done have been bullshit (including our local reporter)

Been around long enough to sniff out when something feels off and this felt off from the start. Too public. Too weird.

Last thing Iles wrote as far as I know was that the deal was far from done with personal terms not agreed. Has he said anything much beyond that? Because that to me screamed this wasn’t happening in itself. Player not in the country loads of talk but if it was serious then terms would have been worked out by then.

On his last podcast Iles said he was 90% confident it would get done.

[BWFC_Insane]

Looks like BWFCI was correct all along regarding Ceesay, if the latest interview with his agent doing the rounds is true. His agent saying that he (Ceesay) never wanted to join us & that basically it was his club pushing the deal. The Agent never asked for a large fee as Ceesay wasn't interested in joining Bolton.

Also apparently there are now bigger clubs interested - therefore all of the reports of the deal being almost done have been bullshit (including our local reporter)

Been around long enough to sniff out when something feels off and this felt off from the start. Too public. Too weird.

Last thing Iles wrote as far as I know was that the deal was far from done with personal terms not agreed. Has he said anything much beyond that? Because that to me screamed this wasn’t happening in itself. Player not in the country loads of talk but if it was serious then terms would have been worked out by then.

On his last podcast Iles said he was 90% confident it would get done.

Fair enough - hadn’t heard that.

[The_Gun]

Although he’s tweeted this afternoon and seems to be rowing back on that now.

[brommers95]

3:25 of the post-match interview, Schumacher says:

“I’ve got a good group of players. We need one or two extra characters in there as well. Which we’ll look to try and do before the season starts”

Now, are we reading that as him wanting one or two more leaders or is he just using characters as a synonym for ‘players’?

I get the impression he still wants one or two more leader-types as that does seem to be an area we’re lacking in.

The Luke Leahy link mentioned on Twitter earlier this week made sense to me in that regard - a solid L1 pro who would bring good experience and leadership.

[BWFC_Insane]

3:25 of the post-match interview, Schumacher says:

“I’ve got a good group of players. We need one or two extra characters in there as well. Which we’ll look to try and do before the season starts”

Now, are we reading that as him wanting one or two more leaders or is he just using characters as a synonym for ‘players’?

I get the impression he still wants one or two more leader-types as that does seem to be an area we’re lacking in.

The Luke Leahy link mentioned on Twitter earlier this week made sense to me in that regard - a solid L1 pro who would bring good experience and leadership.

I suspect he wants some older leader types he’s said that a few times.