Nolan's return to the Reebok
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To be fair, it's not like Nolan was here for a couple of years either. He joined the club at 15 and left over a decade later as captain of the club. It's his way of showing his respect for the club.
I hope he gets the response he deserves, one to rival the standing ovation Eidur got when he returned with Chelsea. And then I hope he plays shite.
I hope he gets the response he deserves, one to rival the standing ovation Eidur got when he returned with Chelsea. And then I hope he plays shite.
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I couldn't agree more with most of the post Bish.thebish wrote:TANGODANCER wrote:Don't see why not. He doesn't play for us now and other opposition players always celebrate a goal. Is he planning to celebrate when we score? Strange mentality really.Leyther_Matt wrote:There's an article on the official website with a quote from Nolan that he won't be celebrating if he scores a goal. Fair play, I suppose.Mar wrote:Hopefully Nolan won't get on the scoresheet but if he did i'd hope he had the sense of mind to keep the celebrations low key.
it's hardly that strange or surprising - and remarkably common. having an ex-player score against you at home is a big enough kick in the teeth without that player also leaping about in excited jubilation. it's a nice gesture - he isn't the first to offer it and and he won't be the last. I for one applaud his restraint and respect him for that more than (ooh - let me think) - adebayour when he scored against arsenal.
maybe you older generations simply don't "get" a bit of gentlemanly and respectful restraint when you see it...
But you gotta admit, running 90 metres to the other end of the stadium to show a load of cockney wankers what you think of them - well you just would.
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What a laugh. Oh, the irony of that:thebish wrote: maybe you older generations simply don't "get" a bit of gentlemanly and respectful restraint when you see it...
A player in a football match can't celebrate a goal for his side without a load of braying fans thinking that's wrong and wanting to kill him, and you talk about respectful restraint? The "older generation" used to applaud any good goals, home team or away back in the days when players didn't emulate Cirque Soliel acrobats after scoring. "Respectful restraint" and football fans aren't exactly well-known bed-fellows now, are they.
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We've not been chanting racist stuff about Nolan's parents for months before, or glorifying his death. So I don't think there'll be any justification for Nolan to do that if he scores.thebish wrote:it's hardly that strange or surprising - and remarkably common. having an ex-player score against you at home is a big enough kick in the teeth without that player also leaping about in excited jubilation. it's a nice gesture - he isn't the first to offer it and and he won't be the last. I for one applaud his restraint and respect him for that more than (ooh - let me think) - adebayour when he scored against arsenal.
maybe you older generations simply don't "get" a bit of gentlemanly and respectful restraint when you see it...
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I still do.TANGODANCER wrote:What a laugh. Oh, the irony of that:thebish wrote: maybe you older generations simply don't "get" a bit of gentlemanly and respectful restraint when you see it...
A player in a football match can't celebrate a goal for his side without a load of braying fans thinking that's wrong and wanting to kill him, and you talk about respectful restraint? The "older generation" used to applaud any good goals, home team or away back in the days when players didn't emulate Cirque Soliel acrobats after scoring. "Respectful restraint" and football fans aren't exactly well-known bed-fellows now, are they.
I'll also applaud when Nobby passes to a white shirt as it's been about 5 years since I saw that.
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Don't forget where you came from, I guess.Bruce Rioja wrote:The comparison with Nolan returning to Bolton being what, exactly?H. Pedersen wrote:Yes, good for Nolan. I remember Giuseppe Rossi celebrated two goals against the USA, the country of his birth. He can burn in hell.
Although Nolan came from Liverpool so he may well want to forget that.
TANGODANCER wrote:What a laugh. Oh, the irony of that:thebish wrote: maybe you older generations simply don't "get" a bit of gentlemanly and respectful restraint when you see it...
A player in a football match can't celebrate a goal for his side without a load of braying fans thinking that's wrong and wanting to kill him,
I think you lost the plot a bit Tango... nobody has done that or threatened that - all that happened is that Nolan said what he would do.
can you not seriously understand his gesture?
Personally I admire Nolan's gentlemanly gesture - it seems dignified and grown-up. If you can't understand that kind of sensible and dignified behaviour - then I am surprised.
well done Nolly, I say.
yeah - I would! but then I'm not as grown up and dignified as Nolan - but maybe (on the evidence of this thread) more so than Tango!Worthy4England wrote:I couldn't agree more with most of the post Bish.thebish wrote:TANGODANCER wrote:Don't see why not. He doesn't play for us now and other opposition players always celebrate a goal. Is he planning to celebrate when we score? Strange mentality really.Leyther_Matt wrote:There's an article on the official website with a quote from Nolan that he won't be celebrating if he scores a goal. Fair play, I suppose.Mar wrote:Hopefully Nolan won't get on the scoresheet but if he did i'd hope he had the sense of mind to keep the celebrations low key.
it's hardly that strange or surprising - and remarkably common. having an ex-player score against you at home is a big enough kick in the teeth without that player also leaping about in excited jubilation. it's a nice gesture - he isn't the first to offer it and and he won't be the last. I for one applaud his restraint and respect him for that more than (ooh - let me think) - adebayour when he scored against arsenal.
maybe you older generations simply don't "get" a bit of gentlemanly and respectful restraint when you see it...
But you gotta admit, running 90 metres to the other end of the stadium to show a load of cockney wankers what you think of them - well you just would.
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I think you're the one who lost the plot buddy. Read the post and stop picking bits out. When was the last time you were amongst the fans? You know exactly what I mean. Stop being so bloody pompous. Of course I can understand what he means, I just don't see why it should be necessary. Who says he's going to score anyway? Bit presumptious that bit.thebish wrote:I think you lost the plot a bit Tango... nobody has done that or threatened that - all that happened is that Nolan said what he would do. can you not seriously understand his gesture?TANGODANCER wrote:What a laugh. Oh, the irony of that:thebish wrote: maybe you older generations simply don't "get" a bit of gentlemanly and respectful restraint when you see it...
A player in a football match can't celebrate a goal for his side without a load of braying fans thinking that's wrong and wanting to kill him,
Personally I admire Nolan's gentlemanly gesture - it seems dignified and grown-up. If you can't understand that kind of sensible and dignified behaviour - then I am surprised.well done Nolly, I say.
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TANGODANCER wrote: I think you're the one who lost the plot buddy. Read the post and stop picking bits out. When was the last time you were amongst the fans? You know exactly what I mean. Stop being so bloody pompous. Of course I can understand what he means, I just don't see why it should be necessary. Who says he's going to score anyway? Bit presumptious that bit.
I did read what you wrote Tango:
you described what the most of us see as an ordinary, normal, dignified gesture of restraint that is not unheard of in football as "strange mentality".Tango wrote:Don't see why not. He doesn't play for us now and other opposition players always celebrate a goal. Is he planning to celebrate when we score? Strange mentality really.
it's just you who can't seem to get your head around what most seem to understand and appreciate quite readily. Nolan doesn't say he is doing it because it is in any way "necessary" - he's not doing it because he fears it would provoke a riot - he isn't being forced to and nobody has asked him to - it's a simple and straightforward reflection of the part of Bolton he still holds with affection.
(I haven't "picked bits out" - that is the entire post I just quoted.)
good on Nolan, I say - a bit of good grace and respect in a world often perceived to be simply full of self-serving prima-donnas.
Nolan doesn't say he is going to score - he is simply thinking ahead to how he might respond if he did.
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Totally agree with Tom here.Nolan did well for us,it's just a shame he probably stayed a couple of seasons too many.The move to Newcastle has done him the world of good.As for celebrating goals,It's a nice gesture that he's making,doesn't have to be made but keeps things sweet should he ever be back around town.Tombwfc wrote:To be fair, it's not like Nolan was here for a couple of years either. He joined the club at 15 and left over a decade later as captain of the club. It's his way of showing his respect for the club.
I hope he gets the response he deserves, one to rival the standing ovation Eidur got when he returned with Chelsea. And then I hope he plays shite.
you described what the most of us see as an ordinary, normal, dignified gesture of restraint that is not unheard of in football as "strange mentality".thebish wrote:TANGODANCER wrote: I think you're the one who lost the plot buddy. Read the post and stop picking bits out. When was the last time you were amongst the fans? You know exactly what I mean. Stop being so bloody pompous. Of course I can understand what he means, I just don't see why it should be necessary. Who says he's going to score anyway? Bit presumptious that bit.
I did read what you wrote Tango:
Tango wrote:Don't see why not. He doesn't play for us now and other opposition players always celebrate a goal. Is he planning to celebrate when we score? Strange mentality really.
it's just you who can't seem to get your head around what most seem to understand and appreciate quite readily. Nolan doesn't say he is doing it because it is in any way "necessary" - he's not doing it because he fears it would provoke a riot - he isn't being forced to and nobody has asked him to - it's a simple and straightforward reflection of the part of Bolton he still holds with affection.
(I haven't "picked bits out" - that is the entire post I just quoted.)
good on Nolan, I say - a bit of good grace and respect in a world often perceived to be simply full of self-serving prima-donnas.
Nolan doesn't say he is going to score - he is simply thinking ahead to how he might respond if he did.[/quote]
I know how I will, and inside I wish I had my AK47 handy.
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD FATBOY IS A BARCODED ENEMY not a bolton player nor a returning legend, every crunching tackle or misplaced nolan pass should be celebrated with great vigor.
COME ON YOU WHITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thebish wrote:TANGODANCER wrote: I think you're the one who lost the plot buddy. Read the post and stop picking bits out. When was the last time you were amongst the fans? You know exactly what I mean. Stop being so bloody pompous. Of course I can understand what he means, I just don't see why it should be necessary. Who says he's going to score anyway? Bit presumptious that bit.
I did read what you wrote Tango:
you described what the most of us see as an ordinary, normal, dignified gesture of restraint that is not unheard of in football as "strange mentality".Tango wrote:Don't see why not. He doesn't play for us now and other opposition players always celebrate a goal. Is he planning to celebrate when we score? Strange mentality really.
it's just you who can't seem to get your head around what most seem to understand and appreciate quite readily. Nolan doesn't say he is doing it because it is in any way "necessary" - he's not doing it because he fears it would provoke a riot - he isn't being forced to and nobody has asked him to - it's a simple and straightforward reflection of the part of Bolton he still holds with affection.
(I haven't "picked bits out" - that is the entire post I just quoted.)
good on Nolan, I say - a bit of good grace and respect in a world often perceived to be simply full of self-serving prima-donnas.
Nolan doesn't say he is going to score - he is simply thinking ahead to how he might respond if he did.
Wonderful. You're a jolly fine fellow. Now can we get on with the football?
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Yes, he is. 10 years, academy graduate, club captain, mainstay of our most successful team in 50 years, highest scoring player ever in the Prem whose name begins with 'N' . Legend to me. Hope he plays well, gets a good reception, and we win.Hoboh wrote: I know how I will, and inside I wish I had my AK47 handy.
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD FATBOY IS A BARCODED ENEMY not a bolton player nor a returning legend, every crunching tackle or misplaced nolan pass should be celebrated with great vigor.
COME ON YOU WHITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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