About Chungy

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Re: About Chungy

Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:14 pm

Lofthouse Lower wrote:Lad on twitter has just posted that Mears has broken his leg in training.....hope it's bullshit
Please let that not be true, as much for the lad as anthing else.
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Re: About Chungy

Post by midnitefooty » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:56 pm

Summary of an article that came out here:

Korea's team doctor flew in from the U-20 WC in Colombia at the request of Chungy's agent to check his status and "reassure" his parents. The doctor spent a few hours looking over Chungy's leg and the team's rehab program. He was extremely pleased with how the operation went and thinks that Chungy could return to the field in 6~7 months, much sooner than the 9 months projected earlier by the team.

Great if true but maybe not worth the risk?

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Re: About Chungy

Post by David Lee's Hair » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:57 pm

Add in the time getting match fit, and you're still looking at next season before seeing the best of him....
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Re: About Chungy

Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:57 pm

A few sub run outs at the back end for fitness.

Having said that, we may be desperate foir him in 6-7 months. So who knows.
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Re: About Chungy

Post by David Lee's Hair » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:55 pm

Bloody pessimistic sod....
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Re: About Chungy

Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:09 pm

I like to think of it as realism.

Anyway, we're going to sign Seany Wright, Joey Barton and Alan Shearer, so alls well.
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Re: About Chungy

Post by boltonboris » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:11 pm

I'd imagine the Koreans will play him in a friendly when he's nowhere near match fitness.. He'll then comeback with a hamstring injury
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Re: About Chungy

Post by superamoras » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:56 pm

The tackle by the Newport County player seemed to have been mistimed, but I wonder if this contributed at all:

Fluoride in the Water Increases Hip and Bone Fractures:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... three.aspx

It's rather unfortunate that Bolton began water flouridation earlier the same year Chungy signed.

As a health practioner, I wonder how much flouridated water contributes to broken bones.


Here are a few select quotes from some literature on the subject:

"The weight of evidence indicates that, although fluoride might increase bone volume, there is less strength per unit volume."
SOURCE: National Research Council. (2006). Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA's Standards. National Academies Press, Washington D.C. p5.

"Increases in bone mass resulting from fluoride treatment did not lead to increased bone strength. In fact, many biochemical parameters, namely, vertebral and femoral fracture stress, and femoral elastic modulus, were negatively correlated with bone mass. This seems counterintuitive, however, the bone samples with the highest bone mass also had the highest fluoride content, and the negative effect of increased fluoride content on bone strength far overwhelmed the positive effect of increased bone mass."
SOURCE: Turner CH, et al. (1997). Fluoride treatment increased serum IGF-1, bone turnover, and bone mass, but not bone strength, in rabbits. Calcified Tissue International 61:77-83.

"The discrepancy that an increase in bone mass and geometric properties in both trabecular and cortical bones by low-dose, long term NaF (sodium fluoride) treatment did not increase vertebral strength nor proportionally improve femoral strength indicated that the bone intrinsic biomechanical properties could be changed by NaF treatment."
SOURCE: Jiang Y, et al. (1996). Effects of low-dose long-term sodium fluoride preventive treatment on rat bone mass and biomechanical properties. Calcified Tissue International 58:30-9.

In the fluoride-treated animals "bone strength.... did not increase with bone volume, suggesting that for bones with higher volume, there was less strength per unit volume, that is, a deterioration in bone 'quality.'"
SOURCE: Lafage MH, et al. (1995). Comparison of alendronate and sodium fluoride effects on cancellous and cortical bone in minipigs: a one year study. Journal of Clinical Investigations 95: 2127-2133.

"It is concluded that the increase in bone mass during fluoride treatment does not translate into an improved bone strength and that the bone quality declines."
SOURCE Sogaard CH, et al. (1995). Effects of fluoride on rat vertebral body biomechanical competence and bone mass. Bone 16: 163-9.

"bone fluoride content was positively correlated with femoral bone density; however, the increased bone density was not associated with increased bone strength."
SOURCE: :Turner CH, et al. (1995). Fluoride reduces bone strength in older rats. Journal of Dental Research 74: 1475-1481.

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Re: About Chungy

Post by Prufrock » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:58 pm

Dear god.
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That it's going to lose its mind
Be more kind, my friends, try to be more kind.

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Re: About Chungy

Post by HMX » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:01 pm

It's the god-damn water!

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Re: About Chungy

Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:02 pm

We've got soft water aswell.

I think its clear that you should never again send us any players.

Does he live in Bolton btw?
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Re: About Chungy

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:01 am

Prufrock wrote:Dear god.
Double that.
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Re: About Chungy

Post by seanworth » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:44 am

Pretty funny. I've heard this is a conspiracy by a group of Government employees that hate the Bolton Wanderers. They have secretly been putting extra flouride into the water.

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Re: About Chungy

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:48 am

He'll have shit bones because he wasn't breast fed as a nipper. You don't really know anything, do you?
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Re: About Chungy

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:48 am

Me and Mr Tiddles will be reet, they won't get us!

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Re: About Chungy

Post by midnitefooty » Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:02 am

Update from local news.

His agent says Chungy is due back in January or February at the latest. Chungy will return to Korea in September to undergo treatment and rehab under the national team care. He will get the same oxygen treatment Rooney got before the World Cup to speed up recovery.

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Re: About Chungy

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:02 am

Rather give the lad time to heal fully.

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Re: About Chungy

Post by seanworth » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:32 am

yea shrek was magic during the world cup.

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Re: About Chungy

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:33 am

midnitefooty wrote:Update from local news.

His agent says Chungy is due back in January or February at the latest. Chungy will return to Korea in September to undergo treatment and rehab under the national team care. He will get the same oxygen treatment Rooney got before the World Cup to speed up recovery.
Not interested.

Don't want to see him until next season.

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Re: About Chungy

Post by TKIZ! » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:58 am

midnitefooty wrote:Update from local news.

His agent says Chungy is due back in January or February at the latest. Chungy will return to Korea in September to undergo treatment and rehab under the national team care. He will get the same oxygen treatment Rooney got before the World Cup to speed up recovery.
Would BWFC allow other treatment of Chungy rather than the club doctor's/physio, Midnitefooty?
Pfffft.

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