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coffeymagic · Post by **coffeymagic** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:39 am

I don't agree with comparing Coyle to Megson. To me he's more of a Charlie Wright (ask your dad) figure.

Initial success and great hope followed by bewildering performances.

We don't seem to have anyone who wants to attack the ball. No one wants to stand up and be counted.

Wheater throwing himself about like a lunatic is all well and good but we've let the opposition through by then and sooner or later the ball's going to wind up in the back of the net.

We've got an inferiority complex that means we were doomed to lose those games against the 'top' sides before a ball had been kicked.

I don't want Coyle out, mainly because I haven't got a clue who will come in (not Mark Hughes or MON please) but partially because I think Coyle will get it right eventually.

Will that be in the Prem or not is another matter.

He needs to stop laughing and get stuck in to a few people who aren't pulling their weight. A few home truths need telling.

CAPSLOCK · Post by **CAPSLOCK** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:46 am

Nine games into Megsons 2nd and 3rd seasons

How many points did we have?

15 out of 17...fcuking hell, somethings not right

Whookam · Post by **Whookam** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:04 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:Nine games into Megsons 2nd and 3rd seasons

How many points did we have?

8 points in season two, 11 points in season three.

CAPSLOCK · Post by **CAPSLOCK** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:47 pm

Oh dear

Probably had some difficult fixtures this time around, mind, but 5 points (tween season 3, when he got sacked, and now) is an almighty number to make up

Sponge · Post by **Sponge** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:18 pm

officer_dibble wrote:As pointed out above weve lost 15 out of 17. I thought it was 14 actually. Either way after two more games thats half a season...so say we lose both, thats 9 points over half a season.

Times 2 and you get an 18 point season. Comfortably bottom most years regardless the quality of blackburn/wiggin.

hope he can turn this round!

I nearly vomit every time I read this. Something isn't right at our club, and I reckon it starts behind the scenes.

FaninOz · Post by **FaninOz** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:38 pm

Fans would normally be baying for the blood of almost any other Bolton Manager with the record Coyle has over the last 18 league games ( W4 D0 L14 Pts12 average 0.67), including the worst home losing streak on record. At this rate we will have 26pts come the end of the season and to get to 40 we need an average of 1.2 over the rest of the season, and given that it is unlikely that we will get anything against the top 6 teams that leaves an average of around 1.4 from the rest of the league.

I just don't see why fan's aren't up in arms to get rid of Coyle based on these facts. I don't have a soft spot for Coyle at all, I now just want a manager who will keep us up. But my only concern is who would come to Bolton to replace him? Hughes I guess is the best available manager or even O'Neil but if they wouldn't take the job then I don't know who else to suggest.

All I know is that Coyle is demonstrating himself as a man who is out of his depth and who can't motivate a performance out of his players. Yes we have some poor players but is the squad really that bad that a decent manager couldn't get a regular performance out of them sufficient to keep us up. We can't wait much longer as a few more loses against teams that we need to beat and that average of 1.4 per game rises to 1.6 per game and that is probably well beyond us.

coffeymagic · Post by **coffeymagic** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:10 pm

The thing that bugs me is when you see OC on the telly he's alwasy talking about 'being punished for errors' because 'this is the best...' well you know how that sentence ends.

Why isn't he saying that 'We're going to punish EVERY single mistake the opposition make'? Turn it around, get a bit of POSITIVE THINKING into the dressing room?

Wooosh! With OUR heat-rays! Wooosh! With them running and dying? Beaten at their own game! MAN ON TOP AGAIN!!!!!!

Sorry, got a bit carried away there. But come on, let's not dwell on what 'they' are going to do to us - let them worry about what we're going to do to them.

Grrrr!

jimbo_bwfc · Post by **jimbo_bwfc** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:19 pm

I just don't see why fan's aren't up in arms to get rid of Coyle...

...but if they wouldn't take the job then I don't know who else to suggest.

That's why. The likes of Dave Jones, Billy Davies, Graeme Souness, Peter Reid and Iain Dowie are not going to bring anything to the club that Owen Coyle hasn't already.

Clubs who sack their manager everytime he has a bad run are forever underachieving. We don't need to be doing that.

If we're still in a dire situation come the turn of the year, then it needs to be looked at, right now, we're 1 point outside of the relegation places, and whilst there are obvious problems, there are also numerous factors that have contributed to it. Certianly wouldn't say, the sole reason we are in this position is Owen Coyle, only then would I be talking about sacking a manager. And even then, if there isn't a ready made replacement, it's too big of a decision to make.

lovethesmellofnapalm · Post by **lovethesmellofnapalm** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:55 pm

all for giving OC every chance to turn it around
but if Stoke gub us again in a fortnight (as if i'm honest they probably will) then questions have to be asked coz that would be proof that we have learned fcuk all since THAT day

coffeymagic · Post by **coffeymagic** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:58 pm

It's the total capitulation that gets to me.

Our heads go down as soon as they come forward and it's like we expect every on target shot to wind up in the back of the net.

The more I think about it the sicker it makes me.

a1 · Post by a1 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:27 pm

BwfcDan wrote:A1.

There's Sunderland fans with more sense than you. Absolute numpty!!

whatever you think of me, or whatever, the statistics and numbers dont lie. something's wrong . mega wrong.

even the "non-statistics" , say, things he's (they're?) saying and doing look wrong.

the muamba gmr quote , the after match comments , the comments on the squad , to me seem very wrong. like sammy lee going on.

i've felt he's/it's/they've/whoever've been not right since i read the projected team for the stoke cup game in the sun newspaper on the tuedsday (?) before the game "wtf ? elmander in midfield ?, an 'only just been fit for five minutes' Zat back in the first xi ? . shiiit !!!" i only think it got one player wrong. like i could forsee the battering.

something's not right.

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:30 pm

I must have missed OC's quote about Muamba. What did he say ?

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:31 pm

Strangely, I find myself in agreement a1...

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:36 pm

bobo the clown wrote:I must have missed OC's quote about Muamba. What did he say ?

... just seen it on another thread ... ta.

Whookam · Post by **Whookam** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:40 pm

coffeymagic wrote:
Wooosh! With OUR heat-rays! Wooosh! With them running and dying? Beaten at their own game! MAN ON TOP AGAIN!!!!!!

I thought I'd gone mad then, I was just listening to WotW

Gail Platz · Post by **Gail Platz** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:18 pm

Obviously something is not right but I get the feeling that the changes needed can be done without a change in manager. I do think Coyle is open to change and we've seen that with some of the substitutions he makes, he isn't defensively minded like Megson was and maybe this is the reason why I still want us to stick by him because I couldn't do with another manager that throws on players like Gavin McCann to defend leads and end up losing.

If we end up with wins against Swansea and Stoke I can bet the moaners will be buzzing and calling Coyle a Bolton hero again.

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:53 pm

FaninOz wrote:Fans would normally be baying for the blood of almost any other Bolton Manager with the record Coyle has over the last 18 league games ( W4 D0 L14 Pts12 average 0.67), including the worst home losing streak on record. At this rate we will have 26pts come the end of the season and to get to 40 we need an average of 1.2 over the rest of the season, and given that it is unlikely that we will get anything against the top 6 teams that leaves an average of around 1.4 from the rest of the league.

And against non top 6 sides, this season we're averaging 1.5, so go and boil your head

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:05 pm

Gail Platz wrote:Obviously something is not right but I get the feeling that the changes needed can be done without a change in manager. I do think Coyle is open to change and we've seen that with some of the substitutions he makes, he isn't defensively minded like Megson was and maybe this is the reason why I still want us to stick by him because I couldn't do with another manager that throws on players like Gavin McCann to defend leads and end up losing.

If we end up with wins against Swansea and Stoke I can bet the moaners will be buzzing and calling Coyle a Bolton hero again.

Of course if we end up with wins against Swansea and Stoke, everyone will be delighted. Nobody wants Coyle to fail as that means failure for us.

Two games with a chance for some points. But there will need to be a big improvement to get points from those games. Let's hope it happens!

Burnden Cat · Post by **Burnden Cat** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:06 pm

Get Sven & Fazza in!

The charismatic Smorgasborg-chomper can stay at the De Vere Whites & quaff Banrock Station. I fancy he'd come if he new just how upwardly mobile the town is... a new Decathlon store, Tesco's had an extension & we've even got a new Greenhalgh's opening at the top of Chorley Old Road, bless.

Annoyed Grunt · Post by **Annoyed Grunt** » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:12 pm

Burnden Cat wrote:Get Sven & Fazza in!

The charismatic Smorgasborg-chomper can stay at the De Vere Whites & quaff Banrock Station. I fancy he'd come if he new just how upwardly mobile the town is... a new Decathlon store, Tesco's had an extension & we've even got a new Greenhalgh's opening at the top of Chorley Old Road, bless.

Let's hope this one is better at getting your orders right as opposed to one half way down Chorley Old Road.

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