Time to go

[Porrohman]

Yawn

Double Yawn.

[thebish]

indeed - sometimes I even bore myself!

Bish out!

[jaffka]

indeed - sometimes I even bore myself!

Bish out!

No way...

Keep Bish

[davroduk]

So this is what it has come to............
Slagging each other off
Before you ask I didnt renew my season ticket about three years ago. (It were shite then)
Owen Coyle is now officially worse than Megson, so how anyone can defend him is a bit of a mystery.
I love Bolton Wanderers.
Owen Coyle I can live without.

[Bruce Rioja]

indeed - sometimes I even bore myself!

Bish out!

Not at all.

Every third post on here comes from BWFCi, that's what's so boring, and it's perfectly right that you ask him to support his Billy Big Bollocks claims. Uberfan's once again been found wonting.

BWFCi out, I say - or at least have his access limited, thus hopefully then sparing the rest of us from his "Hear-me-it's-all-about-what-I-have-to-say" tedious diatribe.

[thebish]

Owen Coyle is now officially worse than Megson,

that day will never come, my friend!

[a1]

bump.

fecking hell fire

late october

jesus.

[bwfc]

Losing sleep over it!!!!!

OUT NOW!!!!!!!

[General Mannerheim]

Was fortunate enough to speak to few players after the game - one thing was clear, there isn't much of the famous terrific spirit Coyle bangs on about! They all seemed pretty unhappy, Klasnic especially was pretty vocal in his criticism of the manager. Was pretty interesting!

[the-Bowtun-Warrior]

Was fortunate enough to speak to few players after the game - one thing was clear, there isn't much of the famous terrific spirit Coyle bangs on about! They all seemed pretty unhappy, Klasnic especially was pretty vocal in his criticism of the manager. Was pretty interesting!

Go on; give us a few snippets?

[BWFC_Insane]

Was fortunate enough to speak to few players after the game - one thing was clear, there isn't much of the famous terrific spirit Coyle bangs on about! They all seemed pretty unhappy, Klasnic especially was pretty vocal in his criticism of the manager. Was pretty interesting!

Yep have heard whispers of this for several weeks.

We've been in Sammy Lee territory for weeks apparently...

[General Mannerheim]

im not gonna quote him, but there was just a general contempt for the boss, it wasnt nasty, just disappointed, he was moaning about being played out of position, and the other tactics, shaking his head and sighing alot.

[Hoboh]

About time some of you head in the sand Coyle lovers woke up and smelled the coffee!!!!
Its smells of the championship for those who haven't!

[boltonboris]

The players are as culpable as the manager, so those whinging c nts can get fvcked first!

Always too easy for the players to blame a manager. Egotistical wankers need to look in the mirror first..

[Hoboh]

The players are as culpable as the manager, so those whinging c nts can get fvcked first!

Always too easy for the players to blame a manager. Egotistical wankers need to look in the mirror first..

A propper manager gets the best even out of Egotistical wankers BSA would have done

[BWFC_Insane]

The players are as culpable as the manager, so those whinging c nts can get fvcked first!

Always too easy for the players to blame a manager. Egotistical wankers need to look in the mirror first..

Yeah that's true.

Equally though the manager is paid very highly to get the players to play for him.

And to get the right players in who will.....

[Ianmooreslovechild]

Stories of players whinging is hardly a surprise and you can see when they're starting to argue amongst themselves that the team is in disarray.The board may well have looked at replacing coyle and decided there was nothing better available and willing to come. If he was going to be on his way you'd expect the deed to have been done by now. You can't overstate the importance Lee and Holdens delayed comeback both of which have happened at a point when responding to the situation was near impossible. Coyle was signing impact squad players on a budget,there was no money available to bring in players on a par with the two we've lost.
The net result is the only creativity we have is a couple of runs from Mavis with no end product and Petrovs balls hammered in at the near post which none of our strikers seem capable of anticipating.ie no threat up front.Our defense has always been shaky its just even more obvious now that there is no threat going forward.
The financial set up of the club is failing and a number of players are coming to the end of their contracts which points toward some major rebuilding in the summer on a reduced budget. The club cant afford to throw money at managers.Coyles cv up until Holdens injury last season is as good as anyone we would be likely to get in(the likes of M Hughes and O'Neill were never an option).As far as I can see the board are rightly backing Coyle to rebuild the team on a more viable budget and have them challenging for promotion next season.
Of course there is also the slim chance that he will pull off a couple of miracle signings this month to lift the squad enough to give them a fighting chance by the time Holden and Lee are back.
If that doesnt happen then we are going to be trearted to the increasingly unpleasant sight of players and manager failing to take responsibility for themselves and blaming each other .

[BWFC_Insane]

Stories of players whinging is hardly a surprise and you can see when they're starting to argue amongst themselves that the team is in disarray.The board may well have looked at replacing coyle and decided there was nothing better available and willing to come. If he was going to be on his way you'd expect the deed to have been done by now. You can't overstate the importance Lee and Holdens delayed comeback both of which have happened at a point when responding to the situation was near impossible. Coyle was signing impact squad players on a budget,there was no money available to bring in players on a par with the two we've lost.
The net result is the only creativity we have is a couple of runs from Mavis with no end product and Petrovs balls hammered in at the near post which none of our strikers seem capable of anticipating.ie no threat up front.Our defense has always been shaky its just even more obvious now that there is no threat going forward.
The financial set up of the club is failing and a number of players are coming to the end of their contracts which points toward some major rebuilding in the summer on a reduced budget. The club cant afford to throw money at managers.Coyles cv up until Holdens injury last season is as good as anyone we would be likely to get in(the likes of M Hughes and O'Neill were never an option).As far as I can see the board are rightly backing Coyle to rebuild the team on a more viable budget and have them challenging for promotion next season.
Of course there is also the slim chance that he will pull off a couple of miracle signings this month to lift the squad enough to give them a fighting chance by the time Holden and Lee are back.
If that doesnt happen then we are going to be trearted to the increasingly unpleasant sight of players and manager failing to take responsibility for themselves and blaming each other .

Can't go with that at all.

We have more than enough fit and available in this squad to have stayed up.

It's just been completely mismanaged.

I understand they think Coyle will bring the younger players through...

That's all well and good but sacrificing premiership status that we've worked so hard to achieve for the last decade and longer is unforgivable in my book.

Oh and nobody will believe it, but what the fcuk, I was told that Hughes made it known he was interested in the job which is where the report of him being 'lined up to step in should we lose to Blackburn' came from......

[Hoboh]

Villas-Boas, who took the helm at Chelsea in June, is certainly under pressure to get a result against the struggling Midlanders.

But some players have already lost faith in their rookie boss.

They complain he is arrogant, aloof and uncommunicative. They claim he is out of his depth and tactically inept.

And that he names his team but does not give any proper instructions or even volunteer any sort of game-plan.

That has bred a stifling atmosphere of frustration and upset among the squad.

Didn't this bloke and Coyle room mate or something whilst on the same course? Uuummmm thought it looked familier

[Ianmooreslovechild]

BWFCi, I think you're right in that the team has been mismanaged and poorly set up. But I dont think the available players are good enough to improve the position significantly even if they were better organised.We have always conceded soft goals but previously offered more threat going forward.The only option with what is available is to try to set up as harder to beat but I dont think the players have the mental strength to make it work.The current squad is in the habit of losing and there is no leader pulling them together galvanising and organising.Dunne was mentioned as a possible signing and although he has faults he is exactly the kind of loud tough heart on sleave type we totally lack in the core of the team.A signing that makes players around them fight and focus would make a difference. We'd still struggle up front unless we get someone sharp enough to get across the face of a defender and attack a cross but at least we might start to see something that resembles a bit of bottle.
Coyle looks out of his depth and it sounds like the players have no faith in his decisions.I'm only trying to rationalise why this has happened and why he's still here.I think the bottom line is that there are no better alternatives and there is no real money.It's easy to forget how hard managing a club like Bolton must be.Great managers like fergie and Dalgleish can blow 35million/19million on players who dont make the grade. A Bolton manager tries to work miracles on frees and a max spend of 5million on a player. 9mil for Elmander was a drop i8n the ocean compared to the spending of others yet because its a lot for us it becomes a big deal and a focal point.
So who would come in to manage us and who from our current squad can improve us? I cant see any answers.