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Re: Manager of the Month

Post by seanworth » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:32 pm

have to admit my heart sank the second I saw the headline.

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Re: Manager of the Month

Post by thebish » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:29 am

the so-called MOTM curse is simply the age-old statistical phenomenon of "regression to the mean". It crops up all over the place and catches people out..

f'rinstance - speed cameras...

we are told that speed cameras are effective because accidents drop in the weeks after one is installed.

but... accident statistics go up and down normally - just by chance - it would be weird if they stayed the same for a stretch of road every year.

by definition - cameras are installed after a particularly high incidence of accidents on a stretch of road... the chances are that they would inevitably drop (regress to the mean) in the next few months - whatever you did or didn't do... if you painted every other kerb stone green - or buried at guinea pig at the spot - they would drop...

the same is true of MOTM - it is awarded at a high spot - the balance of probability is that we will regress to the mean... it isn't a curse - it's just pure simple chance. we would regress to the mean whether it was awarded or not.

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Re: Manager of the Month

Post by lovethesmellofnapalm » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:58 am

thebish wrote:the so-called MOTM curse is simply the age-old statistical phenomenon of "regression to the mean". It crops up all over the place and catches people out..

f'rinstance - speed cameras...

we are told that speed cameras are effective because accidents drop in the weeks after one is installed.

but... accident statistics go up and down normally - just by chance - it would be weird if they stayed the same for a stretch of road every year.

by definition - cameras are installed after a particularly high incidence of accidents on a stretch of road... the chances are that they would inevitably drop (regress to the mean) in the next few months - whatever you did or didn't do... if you painted every other kerb stone green - or buried at guinea pig at the spot - they would drop...

the same is true of MOTM - it is awarded at a high spot - the balance of probability is that we will regress to the mean... it isn't a curse - it's just pure simple chance. we would regress to the mean whether it was awarded or not.
i am so impressed by the level of diligence you have applied to this analysis.
truly inspiring *halo*
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Re: Manager of the Month

Post by thebish » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:51 am

lovethesmellofnapalm wrote:
i am so impressed by the level of diligence you have applied to this analysis.
truly inspiring *halo*
8) I try my best!!

it's just one of a growing list of bollox-tittery that football fans spout!

(see also - we're always last on MOTD, if Lawro predicts us to win we'll lose, we always end bad streaks for other players/clubs)

it is slightly more serious when politicians make the same glaring mathematical errors to support their policies, though...

on this theme - I also get cross at the phrase "not mathematically safe" - as if the "mathematically" adds something!!

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Re: Manager of the Month

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:22 pm

i bet you're a hoot at parties...;)

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Re: Manager of the Month

Post by thebish » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:13 pm

ohjimmyjimmy wrote:i bet you're a hoot at parties...;)
people marvel at my mathematical dexterity! :wink:

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Re: Manager of the Month

Post by Wandering Willy » Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:07 pm

You have a lot of balls on your abacus.
They're dirty, they're filthy, they're never gonna last.
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Re: Manager of the Month

Post by steviewander » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:48 pm

Has to be John Terry right....

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