Sunderland Away

[Bolton-France]

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For me

16. Bolton 39 pts
17. Aston Villa 38 pts
18. QPR 37 pts
19. Blackburn 34 points

[lovethesmellofnapalm]

agree with Mad Marx above- we missed an opportunity to get three today.
its only coz we've been so abject for most of the season that i suspect most on here are happy with a point.

[Lord Kangana]

We're only 3 points off our total for 2007/08.

[Jakerbeef]

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For me

16. Bolton 39 pts
17. Aston Villa 38 pts
18. QPR 37 pts
19. Blackburn 34 points

There's also the beeb predictor.

[Worthy4England]

I get us, QPR and Wigan all on 40 points...with us not making it on GD.

[TANGODANCER]

agree with Mad Marx above- we missed an opportunity to get three today.its only coz we've been so abject for most of the season that i suspect most on here are happy with a point.

No, we didn't. We tried hard enough against a decent home side who nobody really expected to guarantee one, never mind three points, against. Marxy is talking like they're Barcelona just having a bad day and should have put five past us. Truth is we played decently, came back from a goal down and some on here seem to forget we're propping the league up, not looking to win it. How Sunderland played is immaterial and quite a few on here would happily have taken the one point before the game. I like Marxy but he's an opposition fan and blaming Sunderland's bad display (his view) detracts from our own decent one. It's just hard to take that struggling Bolton got a well-earned draw against them at home. Tough Marxy.

[Wandering Willy]

I particularly regret the absence of Holden & Chingy during the first half of the season.

I particularly regret despite having two transfer windows, that instead of looking for cover, he's signed £7.5m of strikers that have 20 starts and 3 goals between them...

Have a good read of what you've written. We needed cover upfront and the January window can also bear slim pickings. Unfortunately our budget is very small and 7.5m doesn't go far on 2 or 3 players.

Do keep slagging him off because he can't produce miracle players for next to nothing though.

[BWFC_Insane]

agree with Mad Marx above- we missed an opportunity to get three today.
its only coz we've been so abject for most of the season that i suspect most on here are happy with a point.

It's cos we were playing a better side than ourselves away from home in our third game of the week, and drew despite being in a losing position after an hour.

Thats why we're happy with a point.

Frankly if we had to beat Sunderland away to stay up we were more than likely fooked.

If we can't beat West Brom at home who have nowt to play for, we deserve to drop.

[BWFC_Insane]

I particularly regret the absence of Holden & Chingy during the first half of the season.

I particularly regret despite having two transfer windows, that instead of looking for cover, he's signed £7.5m of strikers that have 20 starts and 3 goals between them...

Have a good read of what you've written. We needed cover upfront and the January window can also bear slim pickings. Unfortunately our budget is very small and 7.5m doesn't go far on 2 or 3 players.

Do keep slagging him off because he can't produce miracle players for next to nothing though.

NGog in the summer is fair enough. 3M on a player in January whose not played a game yet, is bizarre. We had KD, Klasnic and Ngog.

There were other players knocking around who could have made an impact. I think questioning that is pretty rational.

[Lord Kangana]

Net spend big fat zero.

[Wandering Willy]

NGog in the summer is fair enough. 3M on a player in January whose not played a game yet, is bizarre. We had KD, Klasnic and Ngog.

There were other players knocking around who could have made an impact. I think questioning that is pretty rational.

Who did we miss out on Mr Hindsight?

[Turkish Trotter]

agree with Mad Marx above- we missed an opportunity to get three today.its only coz we've been so abject for most of the season that i suspect most on here are happy with a point.

No, we didn't. We tried hard enough against a decent home side who nobody really expected to guarantee one, never mind three points, against. Marxy is talking like they're Barcelona just having a bad day and should have put five past us. Truth is we played decently, came back from a goal down and some on here seem to forget we're propping the league up, not looking to win it. How Sunderland played is immaterial and quite a few on here would happily have taken the one point before the game. I like Marxy but he's an opposition fan and blaming Sunderland's bad display (his view) detracts from our own decent one. It's just hard to take that struggling Bolton got a well-earned draw against them at home. Tough Marxy.

Would have been happy with the point before the game, and pleased with the response when we went a goal behind, it showed a bit of character because in the games before our heads would have gone down and we'd have lost by more.
I said last week 4 points from Villa and Sunderland would be good, so I'm happy with that, and now I'll be happy with another 4 from Spurs and WBA. 6 and I'll need dragging from the ceiling. COYWM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just hope Chelsea and spurs are up for it tomorrow.

[as]

I wrote us off after Swansea (and another 5 times this season, to be fair).

Roll on Wednesday, when my fingernails get chomped on again.....

And just for the haters - give Coyle a new deal, Eddie!

[Jakerbeef]

I get us, QPR and Wigan all on 40 points...with us not making it on GD.

There isn't a chance we go down on 40 pts. QPR are not beating Chelsea tomorrow and that's final!

They're just bloody well not...

[lovethesmellofnapalm]

agree with Mad Marx above- we missed an opportunity to get three today.
its only coz we've been so abject for most of the season that i suspect most on here are happy with a point.

It's cos we were playing a better side than ourselves away from home in our third game of the week, and drew despite being in a losing position after an hour.

Thats why we're happy with a point.

Frankly if we had to beat Sunderland away to stay up we were more than likely fooked.

If we can't beat West Brom at home who have nowt to play for, we deserve to drop.

Sunderland had nothing to play for and played like it. they hadn't scored in 4 games. but that doesn't really matter.i,m not that interested in statistical probabilities (we never win there etc- Wigan have proved the fallacy in that mode of argument )- i look at the horses in running
so ,above all the way they played indicated to me that we could and should have beat them.
the Sunderland fan pointed out their inadequacies today - all of which i concur with.
yet we couldn't beat them.
depressingly

[Worthy4England]

I particularly regret the absence of Holden & Chingy during the first half of the season.

I particularly regret despite having two transfer windows, that instead of looking for cover, he's signed £7.5m of strikers that have 20 starts and 3 goals between them...

Have a good read of what you've written. We needed cover upfront and the January window can also bear slim pickings. Unfortunately our budget is very small and 7.5m doesn't go far on 2 or 3 players.

Do keep slagging him off because he can't produce miracle players for next to nothing though.

I've had a good read of it thanks, maybe you should do likewise, and then you'd possibly spot that the whole sentence is about where his priorities were, I'm not too hopeful that you'll spot this at a second reading, as it's only a short sentence and you missed it first go. We have spent £3m on some 21 year old that doesn't look like getting a start any time soon and £4.5m on N'Gog who doesn't look like he's going to start banging them in. That's not a huge amount of dosh but in light of the slagging the Elmander signing generated (circa £8.2m) then this is looking like a poor use of cash we haven't got. I also keep trying to balance that with the view that's often spouted on here (by yourself amongst others as another excuse for Coyle) is that a KEY PROBLEM area is that we're two midfielders down.

I've never slagged him off for not producing miracle players for next to nothing. Holden and Chungy cost us less than £3m. What I said was if cover for Holden and Chungy was THAT important in his mind, he should have got that cover before investing elsewhere.

Anyhow why do you think I would slag him off for something like not producing miracle players for next to nothing, when I can happily slag him off for being tatically naive and a bit shit?

[bobo the clown]

Only if Bobo couldn't play football if his life depended on it.

As a person said only last week .... bit of a fat git these days, so probably I couldn't.

But I could still kick shite out of people as they tried to go past.

[Worthy4England]

I wrote us off after Swansea (and another 5 times this season, to be fair).

Roll on Wednesday, when my fingernails get chomped on again.....

And just for the haters - give Coyle a new deal, Eddie!

I don't hate, and I agree with this.*


*in one of your kettle making factories or something. Anywhere other than as Manager of the Wanderers

[madmarx]

agree with Mad Marx above- we missed an opportunity to get three today.its only coz we've been so abject for most of the season that i suspect most on here are happy with a point.

No, we didn't. We tried hard enough against a decent home side who nobody really expected to guarantee one, never mind three points, against. Marxy is talking like they're Barcelona just having a bad day and should have put five past us. Truth is we played decently, came back from a goal down and some on here seem to forget we're propping the league up, not looking to win it. How Sunderland played is immaterial and quite a few on here would happily have taken the one point before the game. I like Marxy but he's an opposition fan and blaming Sunderland's bad display (his view) detracts from our own decent one. It's just hard to take that struggling Bolton got a well-earned draw against them at home. Tough Marxy.

No Tango , we were Sunderland on an off day not Barca and from what i saw of your lot they had enough in the locker to beat us and didn't. Put 5 past you? 2 goals from us over states our performance although both were well taken goals they were all we had other than F**k ups in the box.

If you think that we were not that bad you should see us when we are playing well, i would give us 5/10 today.

If you cant break teams down that you are bigger than, stronger and faster than and who keep wasting the ball its not my fault.

Good luck

[lovethesmellofnapalm]

... which is more or less where i'm at.
as Rabbie (Blake) says " oh the gift to see oorselves as ithers see us"
or something