Jaffka's gossip thread on the ins and outs at the 'Bok
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and pretty much failed. We don't have the players to play nice passing football.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:A couple of managers have tried...Wandering Willy wrote:KD on the pitch dictates the way we play.
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this always baffles me... I would have thought that it is one of the basics of football - football 101 if you like - to be able to pass the ball to another player. I would have thought that to be good enough for a premiership or championship-level contract, you should be able to pass the ball to another player with reasonable accuracy and consistency.. what else the feck IS a footballer's job???malcd1 wrote:and pretty much failed. We don't have the players to play nice passing football.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:A couple of managers have tried...Wandering Willy wrote:KD on the pitch dictates the way we play.
We need to change the way we play.
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Because its not just passing it? It's being able to pass it quickly and incisively enough to open teams up and create chances.thebish wrote:this always baffles me... I would have thought that it is one of the basics of football - football 101 if you like - to be able to pass the ball to another player. I would have thought that to be good enough for a premiership or championship-level contract, you should be able to pass the ball to another player with reasonable accuracy and consistency.. what else the feck IS a footballer's job???malcd1 wrote:and pretty much failed. We don't have the players to play nice passing football.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:A couple of managers have tried...Wandering Willy wrote:KD on the pitch dictates the way we play.
We need to change the way we play.
We certainly haven't been good enough to do that.
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am I asking too much of professional footballers?? if they can't pass and move incisively - what CAN they do??BWFC_Insane wrote:Because its not just passing it? It's being able to pass it quickly and incisively enough to open teams up and create chances.thebish wrote:this always baffles me... I would have thought that it is one of the basics of football - football 101 if you like - to be able to pass the ball to another player. I would have thought that to be good enough for a premiership or championship-level contract, you should be able to pass the ball to another player with reasonable accuracy and consistency.. what else the feck IS a footballer's job???malcd1 wrote:and pretty much failed. We don't have the players to play nice passing football.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:A couple of managers have tried...Wandering Willy wrote:KD on the pitch dictates the way we play.
We need to change the way we play.
We certainly haven't been good enough to do that.
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How many truly can though? Chelsea certainly don't do that. They're champions of Europe.thebish wrote:am I asking too much of professional footballers?? if they can't pass and move incisively - what CAN they do??BWFC_Insane wrote:Because its not just passing it? It's being able to pass it quickly and incisively enough to open teams up and create chances.thebish wrote:this always baffles me... I would have thought that it is one of the basics of football - football 101 if you like - to be able to pass the ball to another player. I would have thought that to be good enough for a premiership or championship-level contract, you should be able to pass the ball to another player with reasonable accuracy and consistency.. what else the feck IS a footballer's job???malcd1 wrote:
and pretty much failed. We don't have the players to play nice passing football.
We certainly haven't been good enough to do that.
For me playing like that is fine if you've got the right players. But nowadays with the physical power and pace, not to mention the way teams are organised, it's harder unless you have a Silva, Modric, Messi, Iniesta etc....
Even a team like Swansea relied heavily in pacy wingers, a tight defence and waiting for a mistake.....
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I'm obviously far too demanding!
I expect a professional carpenter to be able to fashion proper joints, cut straight, measure properly and be able to use the full panoply of carpentry tools at his disposal to good effect.
I expect a professional footballer to be able to pass a ball to another player - at pace - and accurately and consistently - and to be able to score 8 out of 10 times from the penalty spot - and to be able to kick a ball from a dead-ball situation (a corner or a freekick) into roughly the area he planned to kick it.
I expect a professional carpenter to be able to fashion proper joints, cut straight, measure properly and be able to use the full panoply of carpentry tools at his disposal to good effect.
I expect a professional footballer to be able to pass a ball to another player - at pace - and accurately and consistently - and to be able to score 8 out of 10 times from the penalty spot - and to be able to kick a ball from a dead-ball situation (a corner or a freekick) into roughly the area he planned to kick it.
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For a measly £40.000 a week? Be reasonable, please.thebish wrote:I'm obviously far too demanding!
I expect a professional carpenter to be able to fashion proper joints, cut straight, measure properly and be able to use the full panoply of carpentry tools at his disposal to good effect.
I expect a professional footballer to be able to pass a ball to another player - at pace - and accurately and consistently - and to be able to score 8 out of 10 times from the penalty spot - and to be able to kick a ball from a dead-ball situation (a corner or a freekick) into roughly the area he planned to kick it.
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I'm being generous!! I haven't said I expect them to be able to kick a ball left and right-footed!TANGODANCER wrote:For a measly £40.000 a week? Be reasonable, please.thebish wrote:I'm obviously far too demanding!
I expect a professional carpenter to be able to fashion proper joints, cut straight, measure properly and be able to use the full panoply of carpentry tools at his disposal to good effect.
I expect a professional footballer to be able to pass a ball to another player - at pace - and accurately and consistently - and to be able to score 8 out of 10 times from the penalty spot - and to be able to kick a ball from a dead-ball situation (a corner or a freekick) into roughly the area he planned to kick it.
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thebish wrote:I'm being generous!! I haven't said I expect them to be able to kick a ball left and right-footed!TANGODANCER wrote:For a measly £40.000 a week? Be reasonable, please.thebish wrote:I'm obviously far too demanding!
I expect a professional carpenter to be able to fashion proper joints, cut straight, measure properly and be able to use the full panoply of carpentry tools at his disposal to good effect.
I expect a professional footballer to be able to pass a ball to another player - at pace - and accurately and consistently - and to be able to score 8 out of 10 times from the penalty spot - and to be able to kick a ball from a dead-ball situation (a corner or a freekick) into roughly the area he planned to kick it.
But maybe not if you have a 6ft 2 lump of a bloke trying to stop said carpenter from fashioning said joints?
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It's only a tarts game - hardly even a contact sport.onlywanderer wrote:thebish wrote:I'm being generous!! I haven't said I expect them to be able to kick a ball left and right-footed!TANGODANCER wrote:For a measly £40.000 a week? Be reasonable, please.thebish wrote:I'm obviously far too demanding!
I expect a professional carpenter to be able to fashion proper joints, cut straight, measure properly and be able to use the full panoply of carpentry tools at his disposal to good effect.
I expect a professional footballer to be able to pass a ball to another player - at pace - and accurately and consistently - and to be able to score 8 out of 10 times from the penalty spot - and to be able to kick a ball from a dead-ball situation (a corner or a freekick) into roughly the area he planned to kick it.
But maybe not if you have a 6ft 2 lump of a bloke trying to stop said carpenter from fashioning said joints?
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Even though I suspect that you are tongue in cheek, I do fully agree with your statement.Worthy4England wrote:It's only a tarts game - hardly even a contact sport.onlywanderer wrote:thebish wrote:I'm being generous!! I haven't said I expect them to be able to kick a ball left and right-footed!TANGODANCER wrote:For a measly £40.000 a week? Be reasonable, please.thebish wrote:I'm obviously far too demanding!
I expect a professional carpenter to be able to fashion proper joints, cut straight, measure properly and be able to use the full panoply of carpentry tools at his disposal to good effect.
I expect a professional footballer to be able to pass a ball to another player - at pace - and accurately and consistently - and to be able to score 8 out of 10 times from the penalty spot - and to be able to kick a ball from a dead-ball situation (a corner or a freekick) into roughly the area he planned to kick it.
But maybe not if you have a 6ft 2 lump of a bloke trying to stop said carpenter from fashioning said joints?
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On my iPod so im struggling to get the link but according to The Bolton News and Coyle, we are after Ryo again
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Really?? He isn't needed. And by me, isn't wanted.
Let's use what we have. We have 2 better players than him in that position.
Let's use what we have. We have 2 better players than him in that position.
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You can take the piss out of Coyle, but you can't stop him taking the piss.Relentless09 wrote:On my iPod so im struggling to get the link but according to The Bolton News and Coyle, we are after Ryo again
Wylde, LCY (who he mentions as "coming back" that article), Petrov, Eagles.
Why bother with another? Who won't get in ahead of Eagles or LCY or Petrov....
Baffling.
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Budget raping. I can only assume LCY is low down his pecking order, which is absolutely terrifying in terms of judgement.
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Relentless09 wrote:On my iPod so im struggling to get the link but according to The Bolton News and Coyle, we are after Ryo again
mmmmm. Not sure.WANDERERS are hoping to tempt Ryo Miyaichi into spending another season at the Reebok.
Owen Coyle has already opened talks with Arsenal over loaning the Japanese teenager, and is hoping to convince Arsene Wenger that a spell in the Championship would be good for his development.
“We’d love to have him back – he’s an exciting young player and that’s what we want for next year,” Coyle said yesterday. “I’ve had a discussion with Arsenal already and it’s only early days in the summer but we’ll see how that pans out.”
Miyaichi was outstanding in his first half dozen games for the Whites but his impact lessened after a couple of late-season injuries. The 19-year-old forged a close bond with South Korea international Chung-Yong Lee, and told Japanese journalists at the end of last season that he would not be against a return to the North West, with chances likely to still be limited at the Emirates.
“Ryo certainly loved his time at the club.,” Coyle told The Bolton News. “To be fair to the kid, he was trying to play through injuries in the last four or five games and I had to say to him ‘in order to be at your best, you have to be at your maximum fitness.’ He had such a big heart that he wanted to play his part. We had to take him out of the firing line.
“If we could get him back with us again, then that would be great.”
Coyle is no stranger to the loan market but with transfer funds likely to be at a premium next season, he may have to rely on younger talents from the top flight to boost his numbers for a minimum 48-game campaign.
He does not think the club’s relegation will badly harm his chances of attracting the right kind of players.
“The relationship we’ve got with the top clubs is there for everyone to see,” he said.
“You can see that with the quality of player we’ve been able to get in on loan, and that will continue to be the case.
“If the right ones become available then we’ll do everything we can to bring them to the football club.”
It is understood Coyle is looking to sign three new players on permanent deals this summer, with a centre back and central midfielder of utmost importance. He will meet with club chairman Phil Gartside and owner Eddie Davies in the next couple of weeks to discuss budgets - but insists his squad are in good shape to make an immediate return to the big time.
“We’re building an exciting young team and in that respect, we’re actually better placed than we were last year,” he said. “From the team that would have finished eighth over the last 11 games, there’s only Nigel Reo-Coker that had played consistently that has left.
“We’ve got Stuart Holden, Chung-Yong Lee and Tyrone Mears to come back into that as well, never mind that we’re looking to add one or two to the team.”
He certainly got 'found out' after hius initial few games. Obviously a different level, but as said, we are quite well served in these positions. Go get centre-halves Owen m'lad.
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Not sure about u guys, i am really beginning to hate coyle's decision each time.
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It's truly baffling. Going into the Championship with 5 wingers vying for 2 positions? 3 is fine, 4 is ideal. 5 is pissing people off.
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It's May 22nd.
Fugs sake.
Fugs sake.
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That happened to me in January ... v Wigan.elfil76 wrote:Not sure about u guys, i am really beginning to hate coyle's decision each time.
Everyone gets there, just takes some a little longer than others.
The guy is, as we say in Wales, a fckg idiot.
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