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Nah. Think a little further back and more local. His actual words were "He's as stubborn as a fecking mule and that's what'll be his undoing".Mar wrote:Robbo by any chance?Bruce Rioja wrote:It's what a former left back told me when we were down at Wembley.Verbal wrote:I can't remember who said it from here, but I seem to recall someone knew someone in the Bolton set-up, who when he was appointed that Coyle's stubbornness will be his downfall.
It's proving the club's at the minute.
Either way we need something to change.
Enough's enough now. This situation shows absolutely no sign of improving at all. I've said before that I'd love Coyle to be the bloke to turn it around. Clearly he can't - in fact, it doesn't appear to have occurred to him that it's even going wrong - let alone why.
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Whatever you can say about Meggo (and the list was long and varied) -he wasn't a fantasist. Dour, pragmatic and unambitious, but no daydreamer. We now have a team of tiaras and no shire-horses.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:He won't resign, not for a good while yet. Just as stubborn as Megson was, with an added layer of muddled fantasy.
Funny. The bad relationship you are in, makes you pine for the one you just left.
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Again from the SSN highlights last night, Paulo DiCanio looked an absolute managerial gem as Swindon saw off Stoke away.
Although he really does run hot and cold, and probably wouldn't thrive in what is already abit of a unstable melting pot of a club such as ours, it really was sumat to see him marching up on the sidelines, not merely asking more of his players but demanding it. Everything I thought Owen would do, and bring, all them years ago. Passion, intensity but it will be interesting to see if he can build for the long term, if the answers yes than he might bypass a championship club like ours altogether.
Although he really does run hot and cold, and probably wouldn't thrive in what is already abit of a unstable melting pot of a club such as ours, it really was sumat to see him marching up on the sidelines, not merely asking more of his players but demanding it. Everything I thought Owen would do, and bring, all them years ago. Passion, intensity but it will be interesting to see if he can build for the long term, if the answers yes than he might bypass a championship club like ours altogether.
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Bit fascist though.
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Yep, that's what I'm saying... and it worries me that whereas Megson didn't want to change, Coyle doesn't even see the need.Jakerbeef wrote:Whatever you can say about Meggo (and the list was long and varied) -he wasn't a fantasist.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:He won't resign, not for a good while yet. Just as stubborn as Megson was, with an added layer of muddled fantasy.
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... & crackers. One moment away from self-imploding at every second !!Verbal wrote:Bit fascist though.
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
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I'd sooner be relegated into the North West Counties division 2 than have a manager who once had a swastika tattood on his arm.wanderers_on_tour wrote:Again from the SSN highlights last night, Paulo DiCanio looked an absolute managerial gem as Swindon saw off Stoke away.
Although he really does run hot and cold, and probably wouldn't thrive in what is already abit of a unstable melting pot of a club such as ours, it really was sumat to see him marching up on the sidelines, not merely asking more of his players but demanding it. Everything I thought Owen would do, and bring, all them years ago. Passion, intensity but it will be interesting to see if he can build for the long term, if the answers yes than he might bypass a championship club like ours altogether.
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he wouldnt come to us now anyway.
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Peter Thompson (wherever your post has gone), I'm with you. Not on the despising him: I try not to hate, and I managed it with Megson even while fervently wanting him gone. Most Wanderers will never dislike Coyle as much as Megson, an apparently pathologically unlikeable man who seemed to go out of his way to alienate the support.
No matter, those are minor quibbles. I now want Coyle gone. That blinkered stubborn refusal has cost him my support, as if he gives a tuppenny toss. Mistakes I can live with, for a while at least; I'm more worried by blind ignorance and stupidity.
No matter, those are minor quibbles. I now want Coyle gone. That blinkered stubborn refusal has cost him my support, as if he gives a tuppenny toss. Mistakes I can live with, for a while at least; I'm more worried by blind ignorance and stupidity.
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Sorry DSB I deleted the post as I noticed that the link had been posted in another thread.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Peter Thompson (wherever your post has gone), I'm with you. Not on the despising him: I try not to hate, and I managed it with Megson even while fervently wanting him gone. Most Wanderers will never dislike Coyle as much as Megson, an apparently pathologically unlikeable man who seemed to go out of his way to alienate the support.
No matter, those are minor quibbles. I now want Coyle gone. That blinkered stubborn refusal has cost him my support, as if he gives a tuppenny toss. Mistakes I can live with, for a while at least; I'm more worried by blind ignorance and stupidity.
Its a quite alarming quote from a clueless shambolic inept manager "it's nothing to do with formations and tactics. It's players" if that's the case why do teams need managers & coaches.
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So, do we go for an experienced manager who's had success before but lost his way elsewhere or take a punt on an unknown quantity?
Hoddle, Jackett, McCarthy or McIlroy for me - I would have taken a punt on O'Driscoll but Forest got him first
Amongst the unknowns, I can see the logic for someone saying Gary Neville but please God no. Jamie Carragher (a modern day Phil Neal appointment ) or someone with coaching experience like Steve Stone?
Actually, I've just thought of someone who'd fit the bill - Joe Jordan.
Anyone disagree?
Hoddle, Jackett, McCarthy or McIlroy for me - I would have taken a punt on O'Driscoll but Forest got him first
Amongst the unknowns, I can see the logic for someone saying Gary Neville but please God no. Jamie Carragher (a modern day Phil Neal appointment ) or someone with coaching experience like Steve Stone?
Actually, I've just thought of someone who'd fit the bill - Joe Jordan.
Anyone disagree?
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Curbs.Harry Genshaw wrote:So, do we go for an experienced manager who's had success before but lost his way elsewhere or take a punt on an unknown quantity?
Hoddle, Jackett, McCarthy or McIlroy for me - I would have taken a punt on O'Driscoll but Forest got him first
Amongst the unknowns, I can see the logic for someone saying Gary Neville but please God no. Jamie Carragher (a modern day Phil Neal appointment ) or someone with coaching experience like Steve Stone?
Actually, I've just thought of someone who'd fit the bill - Joe Jordan.
Anyone disagree?
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Coyle does say we'll have to take our medicine alot, i think he's overdosed on the stuff.
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Are any of those Owen Coyle ?Harry Genshaw wrote:So, do we go for an experienced manager who's had success before but lost his way elsewhere or take a punt on an unknown quantity?
Hoddle, Jackett, McCarthy or McIlroy for me - I would have taken a punt on O'Driscoll but Forest got him first
Amongst the unknowns, I can see the logic for someone saying Gary Neville but please God no. Jamie Carragher (a modern day Phil Neal appointment ) or someone with coaching experience like Steve Stone?
Actually, I've just thought of someone who'd fit the bill - Joe Jordan.
Anyone disagree?
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So I don't disagree.
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I think that would be a good choice.the-Bowtun-Warrior wrote:Curbs.Harry Genshaw wrote:So, do we go for an experienced manager who's had success before but lost his way elsewhere or take a punt on an unknown quantity?
Hoddle, Jackett, McCarthy or McIlroy for me - I would have taken a punt on O'Driscoll but Forest got him first
Amongst the unknowns, I can see the logic for someone saying Gary Neville but please God no. Jamie Carragher (a modern day Phil Neal appointment ) or someone with coaching experience like Steve Stone?
Actually, I've just thought of someone who'd fit the bill - Joe Jordan.
Anyone disagree?
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We're the type of project Neville needs, but not yet: he's got at least a two-year cycle under Hodgson to learn from. Carragher's even less ready, that would be a huge gamble and presumably costly unless he waives his Liddypool contract. Joe Jordan's 60 and hasn't managed a team since he was 45. Sorry, Harry (G), I'm not buying it.
Not convinced that Hoddle's not bonkers - not in the disabled-controversy way, just in the aloofness. Kenny Jackett might it fancy it, he's not a man to move jobs easily. McIlroy as in Sammy? Lovely fella, fourth division manager. Mick McCarthy would be the easy front-runner with the bookies, and I wouldn't blame them. Hmm...
Not convinced that Hoddle's not bonkers - not in the disabled-controversy way, just in the aloofness. Kenny Jackett might it fancy it, he's not a man to move jobs easily. McIlroy as in Sammy? Lovely fella, fourth division manager. Mick McCarthy would be the easy front-runner with the bookies, and I wouldn't blame them. Hmm...
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That coaching course in Scotland must have been interesting.
"Andre, Andre, what are you doing? Studying what? Tactics? How to organise a training session? feck that, there's a Rileys across the street. Best two out of three at snooker?"
I actually have hope that he'll eventually turn out to be a decent manager, but it won't be here. The sooner he goes the better for everyone.
Alternatives? Curbs or Mick Mac if we're going for almost certain to be better than Coyle, might be a bit dull. Poyet if we're gambling.
"Andre, Andre, what are you doing? Studying what? Tactics? How to organise a training session? feck that, there's a Rileys across the street. Best two out of three at snooker?"
I actually have hope that he'll eventually turn out to be a decent manager, but it won't be here. The sooner he goes the better for everyone.
Alternatives? Curbs or Mick Mac if we're going for almost certain to be better than Coyle, might be a bit dull. Poyet if we're gambling.
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What the fcuk is it nowTombwfc wrote:That coaching course in Scotland must have been interesting.
"Andre, Andre, what are you doing? Studying what? Tactics? How to organise a training session? feck that, there's a Rileys across the street. Best two out of three at snooker?"
I actually have hope that he'll eventually turn out to be a decent manager, but it won't be here. The sooner he goes the better for everyone.
Alternatives? Curbs or Mick Mac if we're going for almost certain to be better than Coyle, might be a bit dull. Poyet if we're gambling.
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Joe Jordans been in football more recently than Alan Curbishley!Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:We're the type of project Neville needs, but not yet: he's got at least a two-year cycle under Hodgson to learn from. Carragher's even less ready, that would be a huge gamble and presumably costly unless he waives his Liddypool contract. Joe Jordan's 60 and hasn't managed a team since he was 45. Sorry, Harry (G), I'm not buying it.
Not convinced that Hoddle's not bonkers - not in the disabled-controversy way, just in the aloofness. Kenny Jackett might it fancy it, he's not a man to move jobs easily. McIlroy as in Sammy? Lovely fella, fourth division manager. Mick McCarthy would be the easy front-runner with the bookies, and I wouldn't blame them. Hmm...
Never understood why McIlroy hasn't been given a chance at a higher level. Always thought he'd be a decent bet - Is that just me?
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I suppose international football is a higher level..
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