Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical staff.

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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by bwfcdan94 » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:18 pm

congrats bish you have found a list of players that have short term injuries to compare with the four names mentioned that are long term injuries. this is incomoparable
The above post is complete bollox/garbage/nonsense, please point this out to me at any and every occasion possible.

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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by Tombwfc » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:27 pm

The injuries we do get just seem to drag on forever and a day. Rob Lainton is another who seems to have been injured constantly. I saw he tweeted Matt Taylor the other day....

"@Official_MattT Good stuff mate, hows the fam? Nope still not back yet, hope to be fully back in just under a month, dragged on massively."

I also found it bizarre when we seemingly couldn't get Ricardo Gardner fit for any length of time, then we sent him on loan to Preston for a month and he played every game.

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Post by Worthy4England » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:29 pm

thebish wrote:hmmm...

would we also say the same about Newcastle's medical staff?

T Krul Arm/Elbow Injury 29th Sep 12
F Coloccini Hamstring Injury 17th Sep 12
H Vučkić Groin Strain no return date
D Simpson Hamstring Injury 29th Sep 12
J Perch Neck Injury 17th Sep 12
R Taylor ACL Knee Injury Mar 13
C Tiote Calf/Shin Injury 23rd Sep 12
S Ameobi Hamstring Injury 17th Sep 12

or arsenal:

L Fabianski Shoulder Injury no return date
V Diaby Muscle Injury 18th Sep 12
M Chamakh Illness no return date
T Rosicky Calf/Shin Injury 6th Oct 12
B Sagna Broken Leg 6th Oct 12
E Frimpong ACL Knee Injury 29th Sep 12
J Wilshere Ankle/Foot Injury 6th Oct 12

or fulham:

M Diarra Knee Injury no return date
K Richardson Hip/Thigh Injury no return date
A Dejagah Knock no return date
B Ruiz Hamstring Injury 22nd Sep 12
P Senderos Ankle/Foot Injury no return date
S Davies Neck Injury no return date

or manU:

P Evra Knock no return date
P Jones Cartilage Knee Injury 20th Oct 12
A Young Knee Injury 23rd Sep 12
W Rooney Deep Leg Laceration 23rd Sep 12
C Smalling Metatarsal Fracture 7th Oct 12
D Fletcher Bowel Condition 23rd Sep 12

or Villa:

G Gardner ACL Knee Injury May 13
S Carruthers Ankle/Foot Injury 22nd Sep 12
R Dunne Gilmores Groin 30th Sep 12
M Albrighton Metatarsal Fracture 30th Sep 12
S Petrov Acute Leukaemia no return date

all with more crocks than we have...
You been reading physioroom.com?

All about Prem injuries?

You'll be watching MOTD next....fan boy.

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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by thebish » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:35 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote:holden, CYL, wheater and alonso have all had long term injuries since coyle came yet i can not recall one player under any of our previous managers being injured for such a long term.

you're joking, surely?? surely you remember Ricardo - he's only just left!! and - if you want further ago - Peter Reid broke his leg TWICE whilst at Bolton...

My post wasn't specifically aimed at you - to be honest I had not bothered to read your post beyond the first line... the thread asks are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical staff... any club with lots of injuries might ask the same question - hence my list...

if there was a massive problem - then how does KD keep going at his age?? (recently playing 3 games in a week?)

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Post by thebish » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:36 pm

Worthy4England wrote: You been reading physioroom.com?

All about Prem injuries?
aye - cos there doesn't seem to be a championship equivalent - so I had nowhere to go but there to make any kind of comparison about numbers of players injured... :(

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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by Worthy4England » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:37 pm

thebish wrote:
Worthy4England wrote: You been reading physioroom.com?

All about Prem injuries?
aye - cos there doesn't seem to be a championship equivalent - so I had nowhere to go but there to make any kind of comparison about numbers of players injured... :(

Yeah, yeah. Save it for the judge. :-)

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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by thebish » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:44 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
thebish wrote:
Worthy4England wrote: You been reading physioroom.com?

All about Prem injuries?
aye - cos there doesn't seem to be a championship equivalent - so I had nowhere to go but there to make any kind of comparison about numbers of players injured... :(

Yeah, yeah. Save it for the judge. :-)
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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by SmokinFrazier » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:31 pm

I don't think our medical staff play much of a role with long term injuries. Someone like Holden has been in America getting treatment over there because it's far beyond the capabilities of what a club can reasonably be expected to provide. Anything serious is just deferred to a specialist, who are probably involved with all top clubs. I remember Van Persie being injured a while back and the place he went to had worked with players from clubs all over England.

The niggling, minor injuries, muscle damage and general fitness are a concern with our club but anything beyond that is not something a club will generally deal with. I'm not sure what Wheater is up to right now but he'll be at some expensive place sat alongside crocked United or City players no doubt.

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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by TKIZ! » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:13 pm

Can't really blame the medical staff for injuries, surely it's the players fault for not warming up correctly?
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Post by midlands exile » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:40 pm

TKIZ! wrote:Can't really blame the medical staff for injuries, surely it's the players fault for not warming up correctly?
I would also strongly suspect it's something to do with inadequate fitness training and conditioning. Another triumph for OC and his back-room boys...

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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by TKIZ! » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:54 pm

Well everyone's a right ray of sunshine today. :)
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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by officer_dibble » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:16 pm

TKIZ! wrote:Can't really blame the medical staff for injuries, surely it's the players fault for not warming up correctly?
I know they should know, but do they know? Ib my head our fitness / conditioning type coach should be responsible for warm ups and fitness training. Each players different.

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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by Mar » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:23 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote:so you have came up with a superb tally of 5 in the last 9 years compared to the four we have suffered in the last 3 years and at least then we had good back up what do we have now i mean are first team is barely good enough let alone are bench

Actually I stopped at 5 because I didn't feel the need to further exaggerate my point and make you look even more foolish and i'll happily stick at 5 because if you really wanted to know the answer then there is a google search engine ready and waiting for you.

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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by TKIZ! » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:27 pm

We could be here all night with the amounts of crocks that Big Sam signed
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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by thebish » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:25 pm

TKIZ! wrote:Well everyone's a right ray of sunshine today. :)
indeed - bastard manager and players won a game and ruined everyone's weekend...

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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by Apathy » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:13 am

I realised that we have a serious problem with the medical staff when last week in an interview with Ngog in the Bolton News he said “I did some work with a chiropractor – a specialist for the back"

Link to interview http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... s/?ref=rss

A specialist! I think the term Robin Ince uses for them which is "Spine Wizard" is more appropriate.

Chiropractic is mad. There is no proof it works and the people who practice it and call themselves a Doctor are not properly medically trained.

Whoever is in charge of the players medical well being whould be sacked for letting a player of ours see a person who believes that they can cure all illnesses by manipulating your back! And I mean all illnesses. For those of you who don't know much about Chiropratic it was invented by a man who claimed to cure someones deafness by bending his back. Yes really.

What other crackpot, none proven treatments are they using on these players. Maybe a bit of Reiki, or some Homeopathy or maybe just good old fashioned prayers.

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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by boltonboris » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:53 pm

Chiropractitioners do feck*' wonders. Lets not start inventing things to hit the staff with now.
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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:54 pm

I've just checked with my chicken entrails, and they agree with the tea leaves - chiropractice is based on sound science, the science of thingy waves propagated by magic crystals manipulated by Chthonic aliens in hyper-space pyramids.
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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:04 pm

The S.A.S don't do darts, ping-pong or crossbar challenge . More medicine balls, rucksacks full of bricks and Winter Hill would be far more effective where being fit is the issue.
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Re: Are we unlucky or is there a problem with our medical st

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:10 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:The S.A.S don't do darts, ping-pong or crossbar challenge . More medicine balls, rucksacks full of bricks and Winter Hill would be far more effective where being fit is the issue.
I agree, what we need is for N'gog to be able to strip and rebuild an L7A2 general purpose machine gun in under thirty seconds without losing any fingers. And be prepared to use it on the opposition.
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