If Coyle gets the sack

[Martin_Cruise]

Just read the sun online and had a smile when it said Coyle to be sacked today until I read the rest that said we were going to put Sammy Lee in charge for the rest of the season .

That's the problem with sacking Coyle.The likelihood is the club will appoint a loser.There is no quality unemployed candidate around who would take the job and unless Eddie Davies will spend tens of millions to prise one away from another club then it's going to be a loser appointed.Keane, McCarthy, Billy Davies etc.None of them are good enough to establish Bolton in the Premier league.

[truewhite15]

Just read the sun online and had a smile when it said Coyle to be sacked today until I read the rest that said we were going to put Sammy Lee in charge for the rest of the season .

That's the problem with sacking Coyle.The likelihood is the club will appoint a loser.There is no quality unemployed candidate around who would take the job and unless Eddie Davies will spend tens of millions to prise one away from another club then it's going to be a loser appointed.Keane, McCarthy, Billy Davies etc.None of them are good enough to establish Bolton in the Premier league.

We're not in the Premier League. We need a manager good enough to get us INTO the Premier League first and foremost. I'd argue that Billy Davies and Mick McCarthy are suitable for that job. Coyle is not. That's why the change has to be made, the risk has to be taken.

[David Lee's Hair]

If gartside only did things you wanted hoboh there would be no football club.

You want to read some of your own posts mate!

I'll make it simple for you, about a dozen of us were sat having a pint when Coyles replacement was brought up, one yes one fecki' person actually wanted Mad Mick, 2 really didn't want him but owt was better than Coyle, the rest said no way so hey there you go just my opinion then!

12 of you having one pint?? Tight bastards... still 3 out of roughly 12 who'd give him a chance is about 25%... surely better than Megson??

I don't particularly want him... but of the options we can afford he's probably best of a bad bunch... unless we could convince Curbishley to take a job north of London... which we will not...

[Martin_Cruise]

Just read the sun online and had a smile when it said Coyle to be sacked today until I read the rest that said we were going to put Sammy Lee in charge for the rest of the season .

That's the problem with sacking Coyle.The likelihood is the club will appoint a loser.There is no quality unemployed candidate around who would take the job and unless Eddie Davies will spend tens of millions to prise one away from another club then it's going to be a loser appointed.Keane, McCarthy, Billy Davies etc.None of them are good enough to establish Bolton in the Premier league.

We're not in the Premier League. We need a manager good enough to get us INTO the Premier League first and foremost. I'd argue that Billy Davies and Mick McCarthy are suitable for that job. Coyle is not. That's why the change has to be made, the risk has to be taken.

We wouldn't sack whichever Championship manager got us promoted until they relegated us though. Eddie Davies is too nice to for that.I'd wait until a quality candidate loses their job.West Ham got themselves Allardyce, West Brom got themselves Hodgson.Someone eventually will become available at a higher level than the dross we currently have to choose from.

[truewhite15]

I just want a manager that'll do away with the ping pong table and the keepy-uppys, and get on with installing fitness and tactical know-how into the players.

We wouldn't sack whichever Championship manager got us promoted until they relegated us though. Eddie Davies is too nice to for that.I'd wait until a quality candidate loses their job.West Ham got themselves Allardyce, West Brom got themselves Hodgson.Someone eventually will become available at a higher level than the dross we currently have to choose from.

Yes, but by then it will almost definitely be too late for promotion, and probably too late to avoid anything but a relegation scrap this season. We've already established that with the increase in TV money in the Premier League next season, it is vital that we get promoted. And Coyle, I am certain, will do nothing but take us down the table from here on out. That is why the change needs to be made now, rather than later. Keeping Coyle in charge drives more fans away from the club, poisons the atmosphere around the club, and keeps performances at a ridiculously low level.

[gemchris1977]

Mark Hughes?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I personally dount like to advocate that people lose their jobs.

If we stay out of the Premier League money-pot, there'll be quite a few folk losing their jobs.

I'd wait until a quality candidate loses their job.West Ham got themselves Allardyce, West Brom got themselves Hodgson.Someone eventually will become available at a higher level than the dross we currently have to choose from.

I see your point - none of the candidates necessitate hanging the bunting - but the counter-argument is that is we wait too much longer, we might be seen more as relegation candidates than promotion possibilities. That's not hysteria or hyperbole, it's a quantitative assessment. We have 11 points from 10 games: average that over the rest of the season and we'll be much nearer the drop zone than the play-offs, let alone the automatic promotion slots. The stench of mortality soon attaches itself to a club, and if we simply hang on hoping Mr Right turns up, what do we do in the meantime? Persist with a puppet manager, a dead man walking who's only in the job due to lack of viable alternatives?

[BWFC_Insane]

I think it needs pointing out that we're in a mess. We have a squad massively underperforming, a debt (albeit to an owner) that can only be increasing whilst we are outside the top flight, a manager and his staff seemingly incapable of turning it round and possibly too expensive to sack.

We've got players wives hinting that the coaching and management is shite.

We've got other players signed for big (relatively) money not playing, and seemingly very unhappy.

We've got a signing signed who hasn't started a first team game.

Goodness only knows what is going on behind the scenes.

I seriously doubt there is any fairytale ending to this. The mistakes have been made. We should have avoided this by getting shut last season and having a go at staying up.

But we are where we are. You have to accept the shambles for what it is.

If we do sack him, turning our noses up at someone like Mick McCarthy is a bit rich. We're 18th in the championship. 18th in the championship. Repeat it a few times......

We need a big fecking dose of reality. And someone like Big Mick might just provide it.

We had a miracle in Allardyce once, I very much doubt that'll happen again.

As for those wanting Keane, give your heads a very big wobble. The bloke is unstable.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Keane or McCarthy (or Warnock - not that we'd get him), all on personality - they'll take no prisoners. Steady the boat, get us into the play-off positions. With a quarter of the season gone I think automatic promotion positions are probably beyond us.

[Chrisfu]

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Words escape me. I really can't fathom where they come up with this stuff.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... olton.html

Words escape me. I really can't fathom where they come up with this stuff.

Mostly off the top of their heads.

[truewhite15]

Coyle Junior tweets "Kay (sic) sera sera, whatever will be, will be"...

Hmm. Cryptic.

[BWFC_Insane]

Coyle Junior tweets "Kay (sic) sera sera, whatever will be, will be"...

Hmm. Cryptic.

Peter Kay as manager......YHIHF

[Barefoot Wanderer]

Coyle Junior tweets "Kay (sic) sera sera, whatever will be, will be"...

Hmm. Cryptic.

Peter Kay as manager......YHIHF

vinnie jones (roy keane as his assistant)

[Lost Leopard Spot]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... olton.html

Words escape me. I really can't fathom where they come up with this stuff.

I love how they've even managed to change his name
"Locked in talks... Scot Coyle has no intention of quitting"

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I'd be tempted to give a Keane a go, from the meagre options out there.

[BWFC_Insane]

I'd be tempted to give a Keane a go, from the meagre options out there.

Seriously? I just don't get this. The bloke is unstable.

I get that you might not be inspired by some choices, but that for me, doesn't mean giving it to "mad Roy".

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I'd be tempted to give a Keane a go, from the meagre options out there.

Seriously? I just don't get this. The bloke is unstable.

I get that you might not be inspired by some choices, but that for me, doesn't mean giving it to "mad Roy".

What do you mean by 'unstable'?

[CAPSLOCK]

I'd be tempted to give a Keane a go, from the meagre options out there.

You mad, mad man

[BWFC_Insane]

I'd be tempted to give a Keane a go, from the meagre options out there.

Seriously? I just don't get this. The bloke is unstable.

I get that you might not be inspired by some choices, but that for me, doesn't mean giving it to "mad Roy".

What do you mean by 'unstable'?

If you locked him in a room on his own, he'd still start an argument.

Anger issues.

And not in a "good way".

Plus I'd struggle to agree with appointing someone who as a "professional" footballer has admitted he went out to try and "deliberately end another players career".