Now he's gone, who's next?

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:51 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: Have you watched a lot of mould?
well - it has to be better than the X-factor and strictly cum dancing... no?

Absolutely.

bwfcmadlad · Post by **bwfcmadlad** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:01 pm

Do you think we could move back to the proper sports science ways we use to have when we didn't have an injury every week?

danardif1 · Post by **danardif1** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:12 pm

bwfcmadlad wrote:Do you think we could move back to the proper sports science ways we use to have when we didn't have an injury every week?

+1

I think it's mad that from being the leaders in the sports science and analysis field within English football, we've now not only been caught up by the others (as is to be expected) but fallen back from our own high standards!

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:15 am

Appleton? Michael Appleton? Seriously? Do feck off!

malcd1 · Post by **malcd1** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:48 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:Appleton? Michael Appleton? Seriously? Do feck off!

I had to look him up on Wiki.

Before their win yesterday, Portsmouth were in a similar position to us in League 1 as we are in the Championship. I know he hasn't had it easy as all his players were released but that doesn't make him a good manager.

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:11 am

You can't judge Appleton on record. So perhaps we are looking at his qualities and measuring him that way.

Bit like Roy Evans was the popular choice with the best record, yet Allardyce was appointed.

You also have to look at the sort of structure we may be looking at, as Boltonboris has described...won't be so many willing to work in that....

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:17 am

Well, reports are that McCarthy isn't interested as he fancies a return to the Ireland job.

Not a fan of his "professional Yorkshirman" act & it'd be a bit like Allardyce-lite, but he'd have done a job.

The Appleton thing sounds a bit flavour-of-the-month.

So options are not obvious.

Roy Keane would give me heart issues. He's been shown to be an inflexible monster, twice now, let's not be the third.

The one blessing is that none of them are Coyle, or Megson.

Brendan Rodgers should be free soon tho.

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:33 am

To be honest the way this is going I can see Lee and Phillips being in charge until the end of the season at the least.

We seem determined not to get a stop-gap, so we may have to wait quite a while for any appointment.....

Trotski · Post by **Trotski** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:44 am

Yes, I understand your concern. It's been a full four days since the sacking, we've played zero games.

We might never get a manager, it's a LSL and Jiminho for life.

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:05 am

Trotski wrote:Yes, I understand your concern. It's been a full four days since the sacking, we've played zero games.

We might never get a manager, it's a LSL and Jiminho for life.

The Bolton news yesterday said there was a chance that Lee and Phillips could get a longer spell in charge.

It's not particularly a concern. Just saying the priority seems to be getting the 'right man' even if it means waiting a fair old while.

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:13 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Trotski wrote:Yes, I understand your concern. It's been a full four days since the sacking, we've played zero games.

We might never get a manager, it's a LSL and Jiminho for life.
The Bolton news yesterday said there was a chance that Lee and Phillips could get a longer spell in charge.

It's not particularly a concern. Just saying the priority seems to be getting the 'right man' even if it means waiting a fair old while.

Well, if we are right & our squad IS very good and we ARE better than most others and we have 'simply' needed proper direction, tightened defence, proper coaching, using our better players in a better formation, greater motivation, planning for set pieces, greater fitness ... (did I say 'just' ???), it should be a piece of piss.

It's the 'What did the Romans do for us ?' all over again.

malcd1 · Post by **malcd1** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:53 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:You can't judge Appleton on record. So perhaps we are looking at his qualities and measuring him that way.

Bit like Roy Evans was the popular choice with the best record, yet Allardyce was appointed.

You also have to look at the sort of structure we may be looking at, as Boltonboris has described...won't be so many willing to work in that....

I haven't judged Appleton because I know nothing about him. Although he has had over 40 games in charge of Portsmouth, under very difficult circumstances, I'm not sure anyone really knows if he is (or will be) a good manager. For me this would be the equivalent of giving the job to Kevin Davies. Completely unknown.

Personally, I think I would prefer someone who has a bit more experience but certainly not Mick McCarthy or Roy Keane. In fact I'm not sure who I would employ at the moment if I was Gartside. All the candidates mentioned so far are a bit - meh. So it may be better to wait a little bit until a better manager becomes available.

Perhaps the only positive point is both Phillips and Lee have works extensively with Allardyce. Hopefully some of his knowledge and tactical awareness have rubbed off on them.

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:56 am

malcd1 wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:You can't judge Appleton on record. So perhaps we are looking at his qualities and measuring him that way.

Bit like Roy Evans was the popular choice with the best record, yet Allardyce was appointed.

You also have to look at the sort of structure we may be looking at, as Boltonboris has described...won't be so many willing to work in that....
I haven't judged Appleton because I know nothing about him. Although he has had over 40 games in charge of Portsmouth, under very difficult circumstances, I'm not sure anyone really knows if he is (or will be) a good manager. For me this would be the equivalent of giving the job to Kevin Davies. Completely unknown.

Personally, I think I would prefer someone who has a bit more experience but certainly not Mick McCarthy or Roy Keane. In fact I'm not sure who I would employ at the moment if I was Gartside. All the candidates mentioned so far are a bit - meh. So it may be better to wait a little bit until a better manager becomes available.

Perhaps the only positive point is both Phillips and Lee have works extensively with Allardyce. Hopefully some of his knowledge and tactical awareness have rubbed off on them.

I'd prefer someone with more experience too. But McCarthy is apparently holding out for Ireland job and there aren't any candidates we can attract as a championship club that won't hold question marks.

My basic point was that if the structure is to have Sammy Lee in some kind of director of football role and Phillips and Darby as coaches and to appoint a manager into that, then there won't be many willing to do that.

Perhaps Appleton is, and perhaps in speaking to him, and perhaps observing him over a few weeks the powers that be at BWFC may see qualities we need.

Harry Genshaw · Post by **Harry Genshaw** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:19 pm

I haven't heard Billy Davies' name mentioned for a while. He has a great record at this level and is currently unemployed so shouldn't cost us too much

IggyTheDawgster · Post by **IggyTheDawgster** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:25 pm

Another Davies?

Relentless09 · Post by **Relentless09** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:26 pm

Kevin Davies for player-manager role

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:41 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote: Bit like Roy Evans was the popular choice with the best record, yet Allardyce was appointed.

Please - desist. Point me in the direction of a single person that wanted Roy Evans. Best record? By 1999 Liverpool had already brought Houllier in to 'work alongside' Evans because he wasn't up to it. Quite a few of us had already recognised what Allardyce had done at Blackpool and was doing with Notts County. I felt the same about Allardyce's appointment as I did about Rioch's.

Lord Kangana · Post by **Lord Kangana** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:43 pm

Bruce, this is the same poster who said 'we're' regretting hounding Megson out. Tends to assume he's speaking for everyone.

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:55 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Bruce, this is the same poster who said 'we're' regretting hounding Megson out. Tends to assume he's speaking for everyone.

Indeed. How remiss of me. Maybe the Daily Mirror had Evans down as a shoe-in.

Lord Kangana · Post by **Lord Kangana** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:28 pm

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"Snubs"? Oh do f*ck off.

"Favourite"? Oh double f*ck off. Perhaps the true favourite Roy Evans will now throw his hat in the ring?

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