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Who would you like to see replacing Owen Coyle?

Alan Curbishley
15
12%
Paolo di Canio
9
7%
Billy Davies
9
7%
Keith Hill
5
4%
Roy Keane
1
1%
Mick McCarthy
12
9%
Gary Neville
10
8%
A rising lower-league boss (eg Micky Mellon)
11
9%
BWFC legend (eg Hierro/Gudni/McGinlay)
10
8%
Someone from abroad (eg Solskjaer)
35
27%
Someone from within (LSL/Jiminho/Didsy/Zico)
3
2%
AN Other
8
6%
 
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by BL3 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:34 pm

malcd1 wrote:Glad to see Mick McCarthy slipping to 6/1.
Why? He's one of the few candidates with a track record of winning promotion from the Championship. I don't know why people are so fixated with Solskjær.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:35 pm

But McCarthy has "snubbed" us. The papers said so!
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:39 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:But McCarthy has "snubbed" us. The papers said so!
The Times tells me that OGS has said Bolton is Not For Him.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by CrazyHorse » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:41 pm

Yeah but Paul Ince hasn't ruled himself out yet so there's no need to panic just yet.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by giraffesarecool » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:43 pm

There are a lot of awful managers' names being floated around and this is just a list of the guys with the lowest odds so far:
Dougie Freedman - he could be alright, but appointing him would be a whole lot like getting Coyle last time.

Jimmy Phillips - not a chance, no proper experience so it's far too risky.

Mick McCarthy - appointing him would really make me question our ambitions for the future. His record speaks for itself. Get's a team promoted, lingers around with them for a bit, either get's relegated or is pushed before relegation and then the club struggles for a bit before another manager restores them. There's nothing in his career to indicate he won't do the same if he was at Bolton, which makes it totally pointless for us.

Michael Appleton - not a chance. Not even sure why he's rated so highly. He's done incredibly 'alright' in a dodgy situation at Pompey, but that style of management is about getting the most out of some bog standard demotivated players, it's not comparable to having a very competent team who should be thinking of the Prem next year.

Billy Davies - the biggest lol for him. He's an absolute idiot of a human being, with another incredibly average record. I have to question anyone's ambition if they want to see him take over. It screams of a short term fix and absolute panic. He's done very little to suggest he would even get us near to promotion and we all know what happened with him in the Prem.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - He'd be alright. Obviously a bit of a risk given his limited experience coaching in English football and his lack of experience at this level of football, but he hasn't shown any weaknesses yet even though it's obviously a very small sample that we are looking at. At least it is a bit of ambition, rather than sticking with the same old timers, the dinosaurs of football management who learnt their trade when a 'big hard tackle' was to be applauded as much as a Xavi esque pass. Managers like McCarthy, Davies, McLeish, Brown, Reid etc etc are holding the evolution of English football back, and the sooner more of them are out of work and replaced by young managers with better minds the better.

Paolo Di Canio - What a brilliant man. He's confident in a Mourinho esque fashion, which is something that cannot be disliked. He will not stand for any egos in his dressing room (See his run ins with his own players on youtube) and as a result he commands an awful lot of respect from his team. They play for him because he is 100% confident in his ability, he is not passive or doubting in anyway. This guy oozes confidence and it is the fundamental reason behind his success. Players really do pick up on this, and it's part of the early success when hiring a new manager. If you hire a manager whom all the players know has been relegated from the top division multiple times and are doubting of his ability, they are not going to have trust and full faith in his tactics or strategy. If you sign a young manager who no one has ever heard of, as a player you are going to be a bit like "Who the hell is this guy and why does he think he can tell me what to do?" and then you can sign a Di Canio, the players have heard of him and are maybe a bit doubtful at first, then he struts in says it exactly how it is, doesn't try to protect any players and kiss their feet better. What a man.

Phil Brown - Permatan has no business ever managing football again.

Peter Reid - An awful dinosaur of a manager.

Alan Shearer - Why is this name even being mentioned? Not a chance, and I doubt his ability a lot. I think his time on MotD has ruined any managerial football mind he once has. As with all the pundits on there he has become over analytical of events that have huge aspects of luck/misfortune in them, not realising that the only reason this is on MotD is to blag some knowledge and waste some time.

Alex McLeish - terrible.

Sammy Lee - no place as a manager even though he's a great coach.

Alan Curbishley - dinosaur.

Gareth Southgate - like Shearer, with the added experience of failure and realising he's nowhere near good enough to be a manager.

Ian Holloway - it's hard to dislike him, but I think part of his success is due to him being at teams where they are absolutely no expectations. Any kind of result is a good result. When he has been in a situation where it's actually possible to fail, then he has failed, and that I fear would be the result at Bolton. Taking Blackpool and Plymouth to glory is what he should continue doing. He will probably go to Blackburn though, and we will see them have a decent season but struggle when it's crunch time.

Ivan Campo - After reading his posts on twitter I'm doubtful he even has a brain.

Karl Robinson - Who? No thanks.

Kevin Davies - Does he have his coaching badges?

Roy Keane - Same as any of them above who have failed and is only remembered for once great season, then spending loads and loads of cash and screwing everything up.

Steve Cotterill - NOPE

Steve Lomas - ??

Warren Joyce - ?

Graeme Souness - Not a chance. Another dinosaur. Another who thinks a big tackle is part of the game. The style of 'traditional' English football has to adapt to survive, which is what we have seen with every top club from this country.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:44 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:But McCarthy has "snubbed" us. The papers said so!
The Times tells me that OGS has said Bolton is Not For Him.
Snubation all round.
I prefer "snubbage" in this context, and would be grateful if everyone would conform in future when referring to OGS and MM.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Sponge » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:45 pm

giraffesarecool wrote:
Paolo Di Canio - What a brilliant man. He's confident in a Mourinho esque fashion, which is something that cannot be disliked. He will not stand for any egos in his dressing room (See his run ins with his own players on youtube) and as a result he commands an awful lot of respect from his team. They play for him because he is 100% confident in his ability, he is not passive or doubting in anyway. This guy oozes confidence and it is the fundamental reason behind his success. Players really do pick up on this, and it's part of the early success when hiring a new manager. If you hire a manager whom all the players know has been relegated from the top division multiple times and are doubting of his ability, they are not going to have trust and full faith in his tactics or strategy. If you sign a young manager who no one has ever heard of, as a player you are going to be a bit like "Who the hell is this guy and why does he think he can tell me what to do?" and then you can sign a Di Canio, the players have heard of him and are maybe a bit doubtful at first, then he struts in says it exactly how it is, doesn't try to protect any players and kiss their feet better. What a man.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:46 pm

CrazyHorse wrote:Yeah but Paul Ince hasn't ruled himself out yet so there's no need to panic just yet.
So that leaves Paul 'Dirty Filthy Red' Ince, Roy 'Dirty Filthy Red' Keane, and Gary 'Dirty Filthy Red' Neville in the running.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by CrazyHorse » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:48 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:Yeah but Paul Ince hasn't ruled himself out yet so there's no need to panic just yet.
So that leaves Paul 'Dirty Filthy Red' Ince, Roy 'Dirty Filthy Red' Keane, and Gary 'Dirty Filthy Red' Neville in the running.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:51 pm

Next Permanent Bolton Wanderers Manager (According to Paddy Power)

Dougie Freedman - 1/1
Mick McCarthy - 6/1
Jimmy Phillips - 6/1
Michael Appleton - 10/1
Paolo Di Canio - 11/1
Billy Davies - 16/1
Roy Keane - 25/1
Phil Brown - 25/1
Rafa Benitez - 25/1
Steve Cotterill - 25/1
Alex McLeish - 25/1
Karl Robinson - 33/1
Dean Holdsworth - 33/1
Kenny Dalglish - 33/1
Steve McClaren - 33/1
Eddie Howe - 33/1
Gus Poyet - 33/1
Steve Bruce - 33/1
Alan Curbishley - 33/1
Alan Shearer - 33/1
Keith Hill - 33/1
Glenn Hoddle - 33/1
Sam Allardyce - 33/1
Ian Holloway - 33/1
Brian Laws - 33/1
Nigel Worthington - 33/1
Fernando Hierro - 40/1
Harry Redknapp - 40/1
Gianfranco Zola - 40/1
Walter Smith - 40/1
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - 40/1
Avram Grant - 40/1
Gordon Strachan - 40/1
Gareth Southgate - 40/1
Paul Ince - 50/1
Steve Kean - 50/1
Gary Megson - 50/1
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by BL3 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:55 pm

giraffesarecool wrote:Mick McCarthy - appointing him would really make me question our ambitions for the future. His record speaks for itself. Get's a team promoted, lingers around with them for a bit, either get's relegated or is pushed before relegation and then the club struggles for a bit before another manager restores them. There's nothing in his career to indicate he won't do the same if he was at Bolton, which makes it totally pointless for us.
We've got to win promotion first. Speculating on what happens beyond that is pointless. Incidentally McCarthy kept Wolves up for two seasons and might have kept them up again last season.
giraffesarecool wrote:Billy Davies - the biggest lol for him. He's an absolute idiot of a human being, with another incredibly average record. I have to question anyone's ambition if they want to see him take over. It screams of a short term fix and absolute panic. He's done very little to suggest he would even get us near to promotion and we all know what happened with him in the Prem.
Billy Davies who got both PNE and Forest into the play-offs, not to mention winning promotion with Derby?
giraffesarecool wrote:Paolo Di Canio - He will not stand for any egos in his dressing room
Apart from his own. The man's a prick. Telling your own supporters to go and support their local rivals if they don't agree with you is Megson-esque.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:57 pm

I see, so Paolo Di Canio is "brilliant" but Solskjaer is "unproven", Holloway only good when there is no pressure and Appleton not ready for managing "big time players".

Di Canio is brilliant, despite having to be pulled apart from one of his own players in the tunnel by stewards, is under investigation by the FA for allegedly "racially abusing one of his own players and said the below about HIS 21 year old keeper........my god he ticks all the boxes, shame its just all the boxes we don't fecking want in a manager!
'Why can’t we change the goalkeeper? Is the goalkeeper is an element who plays on with another team because he has a different colour on his shirt? I know my players, I know Wes – he was the crappy player even against Stoke.

'Today what he did, it’s not only the mistake that can happen to everyone. The arrogance later, when he started moaning to the others, that was the worst thing for me because it let me realise that a player doesn’t recognise his mistakes that was clear miles away, that was a rubbish mistake.

'I said to him "now calm because we have to keep going", we give the ball straight away to them and then start again moaning to the others.

'Today he started behaving as the worst professional; arrogant, ignorant in some way – not as a person, as an athlete – I have ever seen.

'If he doesn’t come out and say sorry to the fans, for the professionalism in general, he is out from my team. I don’t want any argument from the fans ‘we play Oxford, we have a season’ - no.

'I don’t mind because this is my rules and [Leigh] Bedwell did very, very well. Maybe he behaved like this because the window’s closed. Another question mark.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:59 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:Next Permanent Bolton Wanderers Manager (According to Paddy Power)

Dougie Freedman - 1/1
Mick McCarthy - 6/1
Jimmy Phillips - 6/1
Michael Appleton - 10/1
Paolo Di Canio - 11/1
Billy Davies - 16/1
Roy Keane - 25/1
Phil Brown - 25/1
Rafa Benitez - 25/1
Steve Cotterill - 25/1
Alex McLeish - 25/1
Karl Robinson - 33/1
Dean Holdsworth - 33/1
Kenny Dalglish - 33/1
Steve McClaren - 33/1
Eddie Howe - 33/1
Gus Poyet - 33/1
Steve Bruce - 33/1
Alan Curbishley - 33/1
Alan Shearer - 33/1
Keith Hill - 33/1
Glenn Hoddle - 33/1
Sam Allardyce - 33/1
Ian Holloway - 33/1
Brian Laws - 33/1
Nigel Worthington - 33/1
Fernando Hierro - 40/1
Harry Redknapp - 40/1
Gianfranco Zola - 40/1
Walter Smith - 40/1
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - 40/1
Avram Grant - 40/1
Gordon Strachan - 40/1
Gareth Southgate - 40/1
Paul Ince - 50/1
Steve Kean - 50/1
Gary Megson - 50/1
Does Paddy Power know something we don't? Has Neville done some secret snubbing? I do hope so.

And where the fxck did young aspiring Avram Grant spring from? 40-1??????
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:01 pm

Oh fxck, I've just noticed Hoddle's name in there. I'd completely forgotten that Turnip was still alive. He can't be interested Shirley-to-God.
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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:02 pm

Gary Megson 50/1?

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Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:04 pm

OSGs have gone right down havent they bloody hell

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Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:04 pm

I meant OGS.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:05 pm

That little fella that's just gone from Burnley to Bournemouth's in there too for some reason.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:08 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
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Lord Kangana wrote:But McCarthy has "snubbed" us. The papers said so!
The Times tells me that OGS has said Bolton is Not For Him.
Snubation all round.
I prefer "snubbage" in this context, and would be grateful if everyone would conform in future when referring to OGS and MM.
Noted. Snubbage it is. Snubation has been relegated as the crude Americanism I should have recognised it for in the first place.
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