Another Journeyman

[Worthy4England]

Not really got my hopes up either, but if we had a forward on the pitch today who knew where the net was, I reckon we'd have probably won. I lost count of the times that both SKD and N'gog wasted good opportunities.

[Harry Genshaw]

I'm not getting my hopes up.

It's an absolute rarity that someone starts to produce the goods and really work their way up the leagues to perform at the highest level late on in their careers. Off the top of my head I can only really think of Jon Walters and DJ Campbell to a certain extent.

Off the top of mine; McGinlay, Rickie Lambert & Grant Holt

[boltonboris]

I'm not getting my hopes up.

It's an absolute rarity that someone starts to produce the goods and really work their way up the leagues to perform at the highest level late on in their careers. Off the top of my head I can only really think of Jon Walters and DJ Campbell to a certain extent.

Off the top of mine; McGinlay, Rickie Lambert & Grant Holt

And Glenn Murray is the top scorer in the division isn't he?

[Lord Kangana]

Kevin Phillips is the best I can think of in the last few years.

[plymouth wanderer]

Kevin Phillips is the best I can think of in the last few years.

He's always been fairly prolific


Iirc Barry Hayles did't make pro till he was 28

Did the bizzo for Fulham

[bwfcdan94]

holto was playing for Barrow or someone like that little more than 5 years ago

[bobo the clown]

I'm still hoping to be 'spotted' by the scouts. To be honest, getting to think it may not happen at the top level if it doesn't happen soon.

I may have to look at the lower leagues by next year.

[Whookam]

I'm not getting my hopes up.

It's an absolute rarity that someone starts to produce the goods and really work their way up the leagues to perform at the highest level late on in their careers. Off the top of my head I can only really think of Jon Walters and DJ Campbell to a certain extent.

Off the top of mine; McGinlay, Rickie Lambert & Grant Holt

Rickie Lambert had been scoring goals for fun for years, Grant Holt too has a pretty good goal scoring record. So they were producing the goods but no-one higher up wanted to touch them.

[Whookam]

I'm not getting my hopes up.

It's an absolute rarity that someone starts to produce the goods and really work their way up the leagues to perform at the highest level late on in their careers. Off the top of my head I can only really think of Jon Walters and DJ Campbell to a certain extent.

Off the top of mine; McGinlay, Rickie Lambert & Grant Holt

And Glenn Murray is the top scorer in the division isn't he?

Murray's averaged around 1 goal every 2 games for the last five years.

[Harry Genshaw]

I'm not getting my hopes up.

It's an absolute rarity that someone starts to produce the goods and really work their way up the leagues to perform at the highest level late on in their careers. Off the top of my head I can only really think of Jon Walters and DJ Campbell to a certain extent.

Off the top of mine; McGinlay, Rickie Lambert & Grant Holt

Rickie Lambert had been scoring goals for fun for years, Grant Holt too has a pretty good goal scoring record. So they were producing the goods but no-one higher up wanted to touch them.

The point Gail was making was that it was very rare for a player to work their way up and perform at the highest level. Holt & Lambert were both examples of players who have done just that, no?

[Whookam]

The point Gail was making was that it was very rare for a player to work their way up and perform at the highest level. Holt & Lambert were both examples of players who have done just that, no?

It was actually stated as:

It's an absolute rarity that someone starts to produce the goods and really work their way up the leagues to perform at the highest level late on in their careers

There are repeated cases of players who are doing it at a lower level but don't get a chance to display that higher up the league but far, far fewer of players suddenly turning on the class later in their career. SJM may well fit into that category.

[bettyrasta]

I'm not getting my hopes up.

It's an absolute rarity that someone starts to produce the goods and really work their way up the leagues to perform at the highest level late on in their careers. Off the top of my head I can only really think of Jon Walters and DJ Campbell to a certain extent.

Off the top of mine; McGinlay, Rickie Lambert & Grant Holt

Rickie Lambert had been scoring goals for fun for years, Grant Holt too has a pretty good goal scoring record. So they were producing the goods but no-one higher up wanted to touch them.

No offence meant Whookam but oh how I hate the 'scoring goals for fun' cliché!!

[Jez]

I'm not getting my hopes up.

It's an absolute rarity that someone starts to produce the goods and really work their way up the leagues to perform at the highest level late on in their careers. Off the top of my head I can only really think of Jon Walters and DJ Campbell to a certain extent. Before anyone says, no Keith Andrews doesn't count because he is complete garbage and if he couldn't take a penalty then he's up there with our worst signings of all time.

Let's not kid ourselves here. If you're hitting the 25-27 age and you've not done anything in your career, chances are you're not going to be any good. A lot of you got your hopes up when we signed Pratley, but he's had a similar career to Davies Number 3. Look how he's turned out.

I hope I'm wrong, I really do and I hope he goes on to be a good signing for us but someone who's career high so far is Barnsley and is around the 'peak' of his career isn't going to be good in my opinion.

Grant Holt is one, but yeah its not a long list

[Whookam]

I'm not getting my hopes up.

It's an absolute rarity that someone starts to produce the goods and really work their way up the leagues to perform at the highest level late on in their careers. Off the top of my head I can only really think of Jon Walters and DJ Campbell to a certain extent.

Off the top of mine; McGinlay, Rickie Lambert & Grant Holt

Rickie Lambert had been scoring goals for fun for years, Grant Holt too has a pretty good goal scoring record. So they were producing the goods but no-one higher up wanted to touch them.

No offence meant Whookam but oh how I hate the 'scoring goals for fun' cliché!!

Surely we live by cliches in football?

[bobo the clown]

I'm not getting my hopes up.

It's an absolute rarity that someone starts to produce the goods and really work their way up the leagues to perform at the highest level late on in their careers. Off the top of my head I can only really think of Jon Walters and DJ Campbell to a certain extent.

Off the top of mine; McGinlay, Rickie Lambert & Grant Holt

Rickie Lambert had been scoring goals for fun for years, Grant Holt too has a pretty good goal scoring record. So they were producing the goods but no-one higher up wanted to touch them.

No offence meant Whookam but oh how I hate the 'scoring goals for fun' cliché!!

Surely we live by cliches in football?

At the end of the day, yes, I guess we do. But we're only as good as our last cliché and can take nothing for granted as you don't get any easy ones at this level and have to take your chances.