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Re: Derby away

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:49 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:Any link to the goals, anyone? Please? I sat up last night expecting SSN to show them, which they didn't, well, not before 23:40 anyway - the basstids!
Oooooh bad luck, they showed em at 23.41 :wink:

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Re: Derby away

Post by coffeymagic » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:35 am

Managers and players all come and go but there's definitely a mojo about football clubs that never dies or even goes away.

Ours is never to impose ourselves on games, never to believe in ourselves, never to take games to the opposition and always give in to the sucker punch.

We're like the drunk, trying to get his life back in shape, promising his family and friends that he'll get it right from this weekend but then finds himself in the gutter come Friday lunchtime.

From day one of the season we should have used our 'Premier League' history and the ground to bully teams and dominate them from the second they arrived on the forecourt.

Yet for some reason the belief that some teams have in themselves just doesn't exist here and we fall under the pressure of expectation.

Nervous and panicky we're a crumbling empire.

Rioch and Allardyce managed to keep the wolf from the door for a while but sooner or later it was bound to return.

Why do we never push on at 1-0? You could never imagine us doing a 'Peterborough' and demolishing a team, every win has been 'gritty' and 'hard fought', every draw and loss a demoralising, crushing blow.

Still. Dougie has a game plan. Plan A and if that fails he has Plan B.

Hooray!
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Re: Derby away

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:38 am

coffeymagic wrote:Managers and players all come and go but there's definitely a mojo about football clubs that never dies or even goes away.

Ours is never to impose ourselves on games, never to believe in ourselves, never to take games to the opposition and always give in to the sucker punch.

We're like the drunk, trying to get his life back in shape, promising his family and friends that he'll get it right from this weekend but then finds himself in the gutter come Friday lunchtime.

From day one of the season we should have used our 'Premier League' history and the ground to bully teams and dominate them from the second they arrived on the forecourt.

Yet for some reason the belief that some teams have in themselves just doesn't exist here and we fall under the pressure of expectation.

Nervous and panicky we're a crumbling empire.

Rioch and Allardyce managed to keep the wolf from the door for a while but sooner or later it was bound to return.

Why do we never push on at 1-0? You could never imagine us doing a 'Peterborough' and demolishing a team, every win has been 'gritty' and 'hard fought', every draw and loss a demoralising, crushing blow.

Still. Dougie has a game plan. Plan A and if that fails he has Plan B.

Hooray!
That's been the really annoying part of this season....every win bar a stuffy Derby one has been by one goal, none by more than two goals. So we're copnstantly hanging on, game's never over after 70 minutes.

And despite everything, all reports of tightening up etc....we still cannot keep a fecking clean sheet !

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Re: Derby away

Post by Lennon'sEleven » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:54 pm

ohjimmyjimmy wrote:
coffeymagic wrote:Managers and players all come and go but there's definitely a mojo about football clubs that never dies or even goes away.

Ours is never to impose ourselves on games, never to believe in ourselves, never to take games to the opposition and always give in to the sucker punch.

We're like the drunk, trying to get his life back in shape, promising his family and friends that he'll get it right from this weekend but then finds himself in the gutter come Friday lunchtime.

From day one of the season we should have used our 'Premier League' history and the ground to bully teams and dominate them from the second they arrived on the forecourt.

Yet for some reason the belief that some teams have in themselves just doesn't exist here and we fall under the pressure of expectation.

Nervous and panicky we're a crumbling empire.

Rioch and Allardyce managed to keep the wolf from the door for a while but sooner or later it was bound to return.

Why do we never push on at 1-0? You could never imagine us doing a 'Peterborough' and demolishing a team, every win has been 'gritty' and 'hard fought', every draw and loss a demoralising, crushing blow.

Still. Dougie has a game plan. Plan A and if that fails he has Plan B.

Hooray!
That's been the really annoying part of this season....every win bar a stuffy Derby one has been by one goal, none by more than two goals. So we're copnstantly hanging on, game's never over after 70 minutes.

And despite everything, all reports of tightening up etc....we still cannot keep a fecking clean sheet !
We've scored one fewer goal than we've conceded. Talk about an addiction to close games.
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Re: Derby away

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:36 pm

Lost Leopard makes his debut with an interesting match experience.

http://www.the-wanderer.co.uk/bolton/wa ... wonderland" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Derby away

Post by Wandering Willy » Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:17 pm

Enjoyed that, knobwelly.
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Re: Derby away

Post by ChrisC » Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:19 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Lost Leopard makes his debut with an interesting match experience.

http://www.the-wanderer.co.uk/bolton/wa ... wonderland" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good read :)

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Re: Derby away

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:25 pm

Cheers. Well, I had to get knobwelly in there didn't I.
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Re: Derby away

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:54 pm

Top stuff from the Leopard. Let's hope it encourages a few more match day experiences. :wink:
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Re: Derby away

Post by coffeymagic » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:42 pm

The bits in the pub sounded the best part of the night.

Apart from the tischen haired rozzer p'raps?
I'm not asking you to 'think outside the box' I just wish you'd have a rummage around in it once in a while.

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Re: Derby away

Post by leyther95 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:46 am

I was at the game after making the decision to go at 5.30. Our centre halfs looked solid with Mears and Ricketts both playing as bad as each other. Spearing was too complacent with Chung doing well on the flank. Eagles did everything right apart from the final ball/effort. Pratley impressed me, I feel he isnt as bad as I first judged. Lastly Ngog/ CD did OK. with very little oppurtunities. CD gives far to many fouls away but proved to be a real handful for the Derby defence at times.

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Re: Derby away

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:49 am

TANGODANCER wrote:Lost Leopard makes his debut with an interesting match experience.

http://www.the-wanderer.co.uk/bolton/wa ... wonderland" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Good read that, LLS.

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Re: Derby away

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:44 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Lost Leopard makes his debut with an interesting match experience.

http://www.the-wanderer.co.uk/bolton/wa ... wonderland" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Good read that, LLS.

Halfway through that sentence about quizzing the train inspector, I was sure you were trying a connected four on him!
:lol: well I certainly used some ugly sentence construction on him and that's a fact.
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Re: Derby away

Post by m_taylor » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:27 pm

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0 ... 12,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Highlights!! We always seemed to have 10 players behind the ball - does that not invite pressure against a team that cant keep clean sheets.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:34 pm

m_taylor wrote:http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0 ... 12,00.html

Highlights!! We always seemed to have 10 players behind the ball - does that not invite pressure against a team that cant keep clean sheets.
You've got to have a keep the ball, if you don't want to do that away from home.

Easy to say.....

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Re: Derby away

Post by chaddy_bwfc » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:46 pm

Just watched the highlights. Bogdan had another great game by the look of it. Although all that hard work defensively went out the window because of an individual error from ricketts (?). How very frustrating! We need to get away from that bottom 3 soon because we're hovering a bit too close above it for my liking

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Re: Derby away

Post by m_taylor » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:47 pm

I like the idea of keeping the ball but i think our strength lies in our forward play. Mavis, Eagles, N'gog, CYL and Sordell can all create and score on there day but we don't seem to able to get the ball up there for longer enough periods away from home and since we haven't won since away from home since November maybe time to mix it up?

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Re: Derby away

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:49 pm

m_taylor wrote:I like the idea of keeping the ball but i think our strength lies in our forward play. Mavis, Eagles, N'gog, CYL and Sordell can all create and score on there day but we don't seem to able to get the ball up there for longer enough periods away from home and since we haven't won since away from home since November maybe time to mix it up?
Yeah and how do you mix it up without the ball?

My point was if you want to attack them at 1-0 with them throwing bodies forwards you either need to counter, which we did, but our players wasted the ball too often.

OR be able to keep hold of the ball for long periods of time.

It seems we aren't good at either.

The answer is for Ricketts not to make the most basic of mistakes.

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Post by boltonboris » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:22 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote: The answer is for Ricketts not to make the most basic of mistakes.
You're asking a lot there.. He's made a career out of it.

I'd love to see the points per game we get or the goals conceded per game comparison with him out of the side. I bet we're better..

Mears and Alonso are better players. Younger and earn less. I'm surprised he wasn't released in Janurary as per the rumours
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Re: Derby away

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:30 pm

boltonboris wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: The answer is for Ricketts not to make the most basic of mistakes.
You're asking a lot there.. He's made a career out of it.

I'd love to see the points per game we get or the goals conceded per game comparison with him out of the side. I bet we're better..

Mears and Alonso are better players. Younger and earn less. I'm surprised he wasn't released in Janurary as per the rumours
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