The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:32 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
bwfcdan94 wrote:Those comments are somewhat similar to my opinion on him, a good signing, we are going to have a lot of good midfielders and some good defenders next season.
Dan, really, seriously, give it a fckg rest.

You get a lot of latitude on here (look it up) but really ... how, just fckg HOW do you know fckg ANYTHING about this lad ?

He was 17 when we sniffed him out in January. Up to that I don't think even his own family knew who he was. After that point ... when someone with nothing else to do MIGHT just have taken a peep ... he had played TWO (count them, that's ONE ... followed by another ONE) minutes of first team football.

It's taken me about that long to type this.

You CANNOT know anything about him. Nothing. Nada, Zilch. F'call.

Sometimes mate, less is more.
See, I quite like Dan's transfer opinions, I think he should have his own thread.

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:33 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote: most the goals he was either unmarked or only 10 yards out and I saw him beat just one player in the whole video in simple Rhodes is a tap in artist
See also: Lineker G. :roll:
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:41 pm

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bwfcdan94 wrote: most the goals he was either unmarked or only 10 yards out and I saw him beat just one player in the whole video in simple Rhodes is a tap in artist
See also: Lineker G. :roll:
See also Greaves. J.
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by bwfcdan94 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:42 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
bwfcdan94 wrote:Those comments are somewhat similar to my opinion on him, a good signing, we are going to have a lot of good midfielders and some good defenders next season.
Dan, really, seriously, give it a fckg rest.

You get a lot of latitude on here (look it up) but really ... how, just fckg HOW do you know fckg ANYTHING about this lad ?

He was 17 when we sniffed him out in January. Up to that I don't think even his own family knew who he was. After that point ... when someone with nothing else to do MIGHT just have taken a peep ... he had played TWO (count them, that's ONE ... followed by another ONE) minutes of first team football.

It's taken me about that long to type this.

You CANNOT know anything about him. Nothing. Nada, Zilch. F'call.

Sometimes mate, less is more.
See, I quite like Dan's transfer opinions, I think he should have his own thread.
It could be arranged...
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by bwfcdan94 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:45 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
bwfcdan94 wrote:Those comments are somewhat similar to my opinion on him, a good signing, we are going to have a lot of good midfielders and some good defenders next season.
Dan, really, seriously, give it a fckg rest.

You get a lot of latitude on here (look it up) but really ... how, just fckg HOW do you know fckg ANYTHING about this lad ?

He was 17 when we sniffed him out in January. Up to that I don't think even his own family knew who he was. After that point ... when someone with nothing else to do MIGHT just have taken a peep ... he had played TWO (count them, that's ONE ... followed by another ONE) minutes of first team football.

It's taken me about that long to type this.

You CANNOT know anything about him. Nothing. Nada, Zilch. F'call.

Sometimes mate, less is more.
I know what latitude is but that I cant understand what your trying to say given latitude relates to geometry
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by StaffsTrotter » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:00 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote:
ChrisC wrote:According to Dan, Rhodes is only good for tap ins.. Here is a video of all the tap ins that Rhodes scored last season.



You might want to mute it :lol:
Your video has proven my point
most the goals he was either unmarked or only 10 yards out and I saw him beat just one player in the whole video in simple Rhodes is a tap in artist and I would much rather have Dawson and spearing over him however I would go after Austin instead at least he beats players.

A video which linked from your video proves my point a 18 yards header at 0:52 was a superb goal, followed by a goal where he flicks a ball through a defenders legs while the ball was in the air to then go on and finish and the following goal after that which is where his movement is so good it literally makes his marker fall on his arse.
ignore the first to goals because they will make you fearful ahead of our first game of next season
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation ... _GTyDs75Bg

Isn't the whole point of the game is to score goals (more than the opposition) and isn't it the most difficult thing to do

Any goalscorer will say they all count and they don't mind how they score them

I'd guess most top goalscorers score a pretty high proportion of their goals as tap ins, penalties - anyone have charles hughes like stats on this ?

I'd also venture that the art of goalscoring more about instinct, anticipation, right place at right time, attacking space /getting in front of defender etc - shooting from 30yds or beating 5 defenders before sticking it in doesn't normally work

As regards Rhodes, I've not seen him enough to have a opinion of his game. Like most people I'm looking at his record and video clips. He seems to have the goalscoring knack at the moment. Whether that lasts, whether he would fit into our team etc is all part of the gamble that Dougie is paid to take. So fingers crossed if he rolls the dice.

All I'm trying to say is don't dismiss goalscoring - its hard

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by bwfcdan94 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:04 pm

StaffsTrotter wrote:
bwfcdan94 wrote:
ChrisC wrote:According to Dan, Rhodes is only good for tap ins.. Here is a video of all the tap ins that Rhodes scored last season.



You might want to mute it :lol:
Your video has proven my point
most the goals he was either unmarked or only 10 yards out and I saw him beat just one player in the whole video in simple Rhodes is a tap in artist and I would much rather have Dawson and spearing over him however I would go after Austin instead at least he beats players.

A video which linked from your video proves my point a 18 yards header at 0:52 was a superb goal, followed by a goal where he flicks a ball through a defenders legs while the ball was in the air to then go on and finish and the following goal after that which is where his movement is so good it literally makes his marker fall on his arse.
ignore the first to goals because they will make you fearful ahead of our first game of next season
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation ... _GTyDs75Bg

Isn't the whole point of the game is to score goals (more than the opposition) and isn't it the most difficult thing to do

Any goalscorer will say they all count and they don't mind how they score them

I'd guess most top goalscorers score a pretty high proportion of their goals as tap ins, penalties - anyone have charles hughes like stats on this ?

I'd also venture that the art of goalscoring more about instinct, anticipation, right place at right time, attacking space /getting in front of defender etc - shooting from 30yds or beating 5 defenders before sticking it in doesn't normally work

As regards Rhodes, I've not seen him enough to have a opinion of his game. Like most people I'm looking at his record and video clips. He seems to have the goalscoring knack at the moment. Whether that lasts, whether he would fit into our team etc is all part of the gamble that Dougie is paid to take. So fingers crossed if he rolls the dice.

All I'm trying to say is don't dismiss goalscoring - its hard
It maybe now but when OC was in charge goal scoring was the easiest bit for visiting clubs to the Bok.
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by LeverEnd » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:18 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
bwfcdan94 wrote: most the goals he was either unmarked or only 10 yards out and I saw him beat just one player in the whole video in simple Rhodes is a tap in artist
See also: Lineker G. :roll:
See also Greaves. J.
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:48 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote:I know what latitude is but that I cant understand what your trying to say given latitude relates to geometry
Well ... apart from, yet again, showing yourself to be an arse, I'm still all ears on how you know so much about this guy. Do tell ...
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by Prufrock » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:20 am

The old time 'must be either a do nowt else but score goals striker or a great all rounder but never score' false dichotomy comes up.

You can't get away with 'only scoring goals' any more, and that's why no-one does. Klasnic is the one most often talked about, but he did far more than 'score goals'. He didn't run very far, but his touch was good, his link up was good. He had an eye for the one touch ball to set the winger away. Klasnic with someone like Craig Davies (mobile, strong, good runner, wants to get in behind) would be fab IMO.

What I've seen of Rhodes, he doesn't touch it very much, but his movement is decent, and he's always looking to run in behind. He might not get the ball, but that run makes defenders drop ten yards, and gives midfielders space to play.

Sordell got slagged off loads last year for 'doing nothing else'. Quite a lot of the time, this was fair criticism, but he got it after the Watford away game where he was really good. So many balls in behind that he didn't make, but his run meant the defender panciked and stuck it out for a throw. We'd turned at aimless Zat Knight pass (heaven forfend!) out of our box into a throw-in just outside theirs. It's not the same as being involved in the link-up of every move, but its certainly more than nothing. Rhodes from the little I've seen does that all game every game.

There's also, you, know, the shit-load of goals.

I'd love him in our team, but for that cash, it's surely an either him, or Dawson and Spearing (and possibly cash for more) job. I'd rather have the latter two.
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by SmokinFrazier » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:20 am

Rhodes' best attribute is his ability to get into 'tap in' positions. He is a good finisher but he's by far the best striker in the league at getting himself into the right place at the right time, so you can't just dismiss him as being a "tap in artist" because that overlooks the excellent work he does in order to create those chances. He wasn't surrounded by talent at Huddersfield and despite being at a poor Blackburn side ruined by mismanagement on and off the field, he still managed to get 28 goals last year. If his service had been excellent so far in his career, I'd be more sceptical about him than I am, but the fact he's scoring lots of goals without great service is a testament to his ability to create chances for himself.

I think he'd be a perfect fit for us but he's going to cost a massive amount of money. Given the issues with money elsewhere, we could offer a 'good' Spanish striker a bigger contract than they're currently earning and buy them for less money than Blackburn would accept for Rhodes. There's far more value abroad, so I'd rather see us pick a bargain up from Spain or some other country, rather than pay over the odds for a good British player. £8m on a British player will get you much less quality than £8m on a Spanish player.

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by ChrisC » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:26 am

SmokinFrazier wrote:Rhodes' best attribute is his ability to get into 'tap in' positions. He is a good finisher but he's by far the best striker in the league at getting himself into the right place at the right time, so you can't just dismiss him as being a "tap in artist" because that overlooks the excellent work he does in order to create those chances. He wasn't surrounded by talent at Huddersfield and despite being at a poor Blackburn side ruined by mismanagement on and off the field, he still managed to get 28 goals last year. If his service had been excellent so far in his career, I'd be more sceptical about him than I am, but the fact he's scoring lots of goals without great service is a testament to his ability to create chances for himself.

I think he'd be a perfect fit for us but he's going to cost a massive amount of money. Given the issues with money elsewhere, we could offer a 'good' Spanish striker a bigger contract than they're currently earning and buy them for less money than Blackburn would accept for Rhodes. There's far more value abroad, so I'd rather see us pick a bargain up from Spain or some other country, rather than pay over the odds for a good British player. £8m on a British player will get you much less quality than £8m on a Spanish player.
Rhodes is proven at this level. Bringing in a foreigner from a different country and a different league is a big gamble. Different style of play, different tempo, different aggression, different weather to name just a few things. That is without mentioning the fact they will need to find a home and get settled living in this country.

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by Prufrock » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:38 am

I thought you were talking sense there SF, until you mentioned that we'd be better off buying a ''good' Spanish striker' for cheaper. Got any in mind or are we just rocking up to the beach with a tenner?
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by Salford Trotter » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:33 am

Olsson to Norwich now confirmed so presumably that give the Dingles the funds for Spearing
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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by borgetti_wanderers » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:21 am

Being in the right place at the right time is possibly one of the most important attributes for a striker to have. Scoring the amount he did last season show's he can do this. It's not lucky/jammy its a skill being able to read the game like he does. I'd rather have a 'tap in artist' scoring 25/30 goals a season than a striker who'll 'work hard' for 15/20.

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:35 am

borgetti_wanderers wrote: More Goals = More Wins! Fact.
Incorrect.

The team that scores the most goals over the course of a season does not necessarily win more games than the other teams. This is a fact :wink:

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by Bruno3 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:38 am

as is the fact that not conceding any goals will get you promoted

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:39 am

Bruno3 wrote:as is the fact that not conceding any goals will get you promoted
If you don't score any, nor concede any, you're relegated :wink:

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by borgetti_wanderers » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:46 am

Aye up i knew someone would say something about that.

But in all seriousness even if we just added 1 tap in to the scoreline of 5/10 of our games we'd of been in the play offs at least.

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Re: The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

Post by plymouth wanderer » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:51 am

bwfcdan94 wrote:
ChrisC wrote:According to Dan, Rhodes is only good for tap ins.. Here is a video of all the tap ins that Rhodes scored last season.



You might want to mute it :lol:
Your video has proven my point
most the goals he was either unmarked or only 10 yards out and I saw him beat just one player in the whole video in simple Rhodes is a tap in artist and I would much rather have Dawson and spearing over him however I would go after Austin instead at least he beats players.

A video which linked from your video proves my point a 18 yards header at 0:52 was a superb goal, followed by a goal where he flicks a ball through a defenders legs while the ball was in the air to then go on and finish and the following goal after that which is where his movement is so good it literally makes his marker fall on his arse.
ignore the first to goals because they will make you fearful ahead of our first game of next season
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation ... _GTyDs75Bg


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