Can one player really make all the difference?

[BWFC_Insane]

Does josh vela exist or have I invented him in my own bwfc world

BWFCi has omitted him in order to make a point about the midfield not having anyone in it...

He was injured at the start of the season. He played made his comeback at Tranmere. This is getting silly. You can't go into the season with two recognised senior central midfield players. It would be absolutely ridiculous to. And you know it. We are probably one injury away from having a big problem in midfield as it is.

[StaffsTrotter]

Apparently we've spent in up front fees £1.3M this summer.

Spearing only happened because he really wanted to come here and therefore a deal could be struck on our terms.

As much as we should have signed a centre half, was there one that would make Dawsondifference available for such a low amount?

And as we've clearly been operating a one in one out policy had we shifted Andrews and instead of Spearing signed a centre half, people would start saying we didn't have enough in midfield. And we wouldn't have had.

s'all swings and roundabouts and arguable... if we'd found a decent commanding Centre half - then i'd hope we wouldn't be contemplating the need to play as many as three defensive midfielders to protect the back four... and this "hole" that you describe between the two defensive midfielders and the four defenders wouldn't be there!

Yeah but what I'm saying is, if he'd sent Andrews off and replaced him with a centre half, we'd only have Pratley and Medo as senior central midfielders.

And Pratley gets sent off at Forest we'd have just Medo as a recognised fit midfield player.

but presumably if he'd not gone for spearing, he would have kept andrews.

is vela not fit/ ready yet or is he another of our perpetually crocked midfielders

But he'd have had to send a player out to bring a centre half in. And thats the point we haven't been able to move a defender out!

not convinced that this simplistic 1 in/ 1 out is the be all and end all.

are you really saying andrews wages = the fee and wages for spearing (and I got the impression we will still paying some of andrews wages)

[thebish]

Does josh vela exist or have I invented him in my own bwfc world

BWFCi has omitted him in order to make a point about the midfield not having anyone in it...

He was injured at the start of the season. He played made his comeback at Tranmere. This is getting silly. You can't go into the season with two recognised senior central midfield players. It would be absolutely ridiculous to. And you know it. We are probably one injury away from having a big problem in midfield as it is.

not really sure we are...

we have medo, spearing, vela, pratley and ream

and how come you have introduced this weasel word "recognised"?? what does that mean? surely - if dougie thinks they can play there - as far as we are concerned they are ALL recognised...

[BWFC_Insane]

not convinced that this simplistic 1 in/ 1 out is the be all and end all.

are you really saying andrews wages = the fee and wages for spearing (and I got the impression we will still paying some of andrews wages)

The evidence from various interviews from Freedman plus the Bolton News articles and Nixon's twitter ramblings all points to a one in and one out policy.

I suspect the issue is wages rather than fees. We are negotiating tiny up front fees by the looks of it, and Eddie is by all accounts covering the Spearing fee.

But whatever it seems a huge, huge coincidence that Moritz signed two weeks after being up here for talks, and on the same day Sordell went. And that Spearing signed the same day it was revealed Andrews was offski.

Anyway I hope that tradition, is broken with and we just go out and loan the best centre half available to us once the window opens next week. We know Dougie wants players so lets hope that happens.

[thebish]

are you saying that one-out-one-in is now a "tradition"??

[Athers]

This is scary stuff!

Bolton have not won a league game in 2013 without Craig Dawson

Read that headline and then take a second to let that soak in. In the whole of 2013 (thus far), Bolton Wanderers have not won once in the league without Craig Dawson. That is the impact that one player can make. Let's take a step back for a quick second.

On the 24th of January, 2013, Bolton Wanderers officially signed West Bromwich Albion and England U21 defender Craig Dawson on a three-month-long loan deal. He would make his debut for the Trotters on the 9th of February, starting in the home match against Burnley. It was a match that Bolton would ultimately win 2-1 thanks in part to Dawson's threat up front and poise at the back. Bolton would win eight of the next 11 to propel them into play-off contention. Dawson's loan ended ahead of the season's final match, a crucial clash against Blackpool at home that Bolton would ultimately draw to miss out on a chance at promotion.

Ahead of Dawson's arrival at the Reebok, Bolton Wanderers hit some rocks after Dougie Freedman had largely steadied the ship upon his appointment as manager. At that point, the Trotters had won one out of their last seven, losing four of those matches. The story was much the same after Dawson's departure. Bolton Wanderers have not won a league fixture in 2013 without Craig Dawson. The defender appeared 16 times for Bolton with Wanderers losing just three times in that stretch.

The last win came on the 29th of December when Bolton beat Birmingham City by a scoreline of 3-1 at the Reebok Stadium. That match was surrounded by 1-0 losses against Sheffield Wednesday and at Leeds United. In 2013, without Craig Dawson, Wanderers had lost twice and drawn four. Those totals were compounded with the current season's poor start, brining it to five losses and six draws in 2013 without Craig Dawson.

Can we post the link to LOVS out of courtesy

http://www.lionofviennasuite.com/2013/9 ... aig-dawson" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?

[ChrisC]

This is scary stuff!

Bolton have not won a league game in 2013 without Craig Dawson

Read that headline and then take a second to let that soak in. In the whole of 2013 (thus far), Bolton Wanderers have not won once in the league without Craig Dawson. That is the impact that one player can make. Let's take a step back for a quick second.

On the 24th of January, 2013, Bolton Wanderers officially signed West Bromwich Albion and England U21 defender Craig Dawson on a three-month-long loan deal. He would make his debut for the Trotters on the 9th of February, starting in the home match against Burnley. It was a match that Bolton would ultimately win 2-1 thanks in part to Dawson's threat up front and poise at the back. Bolton would win eight of the next 11 to propel them into play-off contention. Dawson's loan ended ahead of the season's final match, a crucial clash against Blackpool at home that Bolton would ultimately draw to miss out on a chance at promotion.

Ahead of Dawson's arrival at the Reebok, Bolton Wanderers hit some rocks after Dougie Freedman had largely steadied the ship upon his appointment as manager. At that point, the Trotters had won one out of their last seven, losing four of those matches. The story was much the same after Dawson's departure. Bolton Wanderers have not won a league fixture in 2013 without Craig Dawson. The defender appeared 16 times for Bolton with Wanderers losing just three times in that stretch.

The last win came on the 29th of December when Bolton beat Birmingham City by a scoreline of 3-1 at the Reebok Stadium. That match was surrounded by 1-0 losses against Sheffield Wednesday and at Leeds United. In 2013, without Craig Dawson, Wanderers had lost twice and drawn four. Those totals were compounded with the current season's poor start, brining it to five losses and six draws in 2013 without Craig Dawson.

Can we post the link to LOVS out of courtesy

http://www.lionofviennasuite.com/2013/9 ... aig-dawson" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?

Apologies, I thought I had posted it above the article

[Lord Kangana]

By my reckoning, and bish feel free to correct my maths here if you would, but Jay Spearing is currently paying us upwards of £6k a week to play for us. Given that, I can see why we were so desperate to sign him. We definitely need more player like that.