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[Relentless09]

by the way everyone ... #41, on the bench ... Oscar Threlkeld.

Anyone know about the guy ?

New one on me. Did N'gog and Eagles make the bench? I missed the bench bit apart from knowing Knight, Moritz and Craig Davis came on.

Lee-Barrett, Knight, Moritz, Craig Davies, Ngog, Eagles and Threlkeld was the bench.

Threlkeld is a name that was vaguely familiar. One of those who seems to have been around our youth team so long that they might be 30-odd. Centre-back, if I recall correctly.

Apparently he's quick and can play right back as well, hopefully him and Kellet get a run out so we can see what they've got.

[CarlosHernandez]

by the way everyone ... #41, on the bench ... Oscar Threlkeld.

Anyone know about the guy ?

I asked the same question. The twitter feed said he's an academy player.

[SmokinFrazier]

Well, I thought we'd be discussing giving away the lead twice more than I did a 3-1 victory. Our three goals proved what we can do when we take the game to the opposition, so I've no idea why we spent most of the 90 minutes inviting them onto us.

I wasn't at the game yesterday but I've thought that for a while too. When we push forward and attack teams, we are far superior to when we sit back and invite pressure. I know you don't want a team to be reckless and go after everything but I think if we played attacking football throughout the game, we'd be in a much better position than we currently are. It's like we're expecting something which isn't there. When we focus on our strengths, we're a good side who have an attack that most defences will struggle to cope with, but why we give away our advantages so much is strange. We don't have to defend deep to keep our lead, we can negate the opposition threat by going forward ourselves. Hopefully this type of performance restores faith in our ability to create chances and score goals, anyway.

[Enoch]

Well bugger me!

Easy tiger, I didn't mean that literally!!

Lots today that was pleasing, lots that wasn't, made me smile though. Best bit by far was the respect shown for the minute's silence.

[LeverEnd]

does anyone else feel a wee bit patronised ? or do we need educating ?

The fans were shouting "Knock it forward, get it up to the big man"? WHAT?????

At the point Ream burst forward I was getting irritated that no-one was moving for him or Mills. At no point did I want a long punt.I wanted someone to show for the ball and move into space. Maybe that what Capslock was suggesting I wanted with his editing of my post? No idea really though as he still hasn't told me.
Dougie talking absolute shit again, he needs to get a grip.
It's going to take a loot of wins to convince me now he's a good manager. As negative as BL3 is, he's right that we are way below where we should be based on talent. I just wish he'd give credit where it's due.

[BL3]

does anyone else feel a wee bit patronised ? or do we need educating ?

The fans were shouting "Knock it forward, get it up to the big man"? WHAT?????

At the point Ream burst forward I was getting irritated that no-one was moving for him or Mills. At no point did I want a long punt.I wanted someone to show for the ball and move into space. Maybe that what Capslock was suggesting I wanted with his editing of my post? No idea really though as he still hasn't told me.
Dougie talking absolute shit again, he needs to get a grip.
It's going to take a loot of wins to convince me now he's a good manager. As negative as BL3 is, he's right that we are way below where we should be based on talent. I just wish he'd give credit where it's due.

[BL3]

does anyone else feel a wee bit patronised ? or do we need educating ?

The fans were shouting "Knock it forward, get it up to the big man"? WHAT?????

At the point Ream burst forward I was getting irritated that no-one was moving for him or Mills. At no point did I want a long punt.I wanted someone to show for the ball and move into space. Maybe that what Capslock was suggesting I wanted with his editing of my post? No idea really though as he still hasn't told me.
Dougie talking absolute shit again, he needs to get a grip.
It's going to take a loot of wins to convince me now he's a good manager. As negative as BL3 is, he's right that we are way below where we should be based on talent. I just wish he'd give credit where it's due.

Credit to who? The team? We're good enough to be wiping the floor with no hopers like Millwall. Credit to the manager? Why? We're a third of the way through the season and we're 17th. That's pretty much the position we were in when he took over a year ago. We're going round in circles. We're a decent team being held back by a negative manager.

[TKIZ!]

does anyone else feel a wee bit patronised ? or do we need educating ?

The fans were shouting "Knock it forward, get it up to the big man"? WHAT?????

At the point Ream burst forward I was getting irritated that no-one was moving for him or Mills. At no point did I want a long punt.I wanted someone to show for the ball and move into space. Maybe that what Capslock was suggesting I wanted with his editing of my post? No idea really though as he still hasn't told me.
Dougie talking absolute shit again, he needs to get a grip.
It's going to take a loot of wins to convince me now he's a good manager. As negative as BL3 is, he's right that we are way below where we should be based on talent. I just wish he'd give credit where it's due.

Credit to who? The team? We're good enough to be wiping the floor with no hopers like Millwall. Credit to the manager? Why? We're a third of the way through the season and we're 17th. That's pretty much the position we were in when he took over a year ago. We're going round in circles. We're a decent team being held back by a negative manager.

Always the negatives, never the positives.

We won, you Big Party Pooper

[jaffka]

BL3, last season when we were on that long undefeated run you disappeard. We are is 7 games unbeaten, how any games will it take for you to f**k off again?

[a1]

Credit to who? The team? We're good enough to be wiping the floor with no hopers like Millwall. Credit to the manager? Why? We're a third of the way through the season and we're 17th. That's pretty much the position we were in when he took over a year ago. We're going round in circles. We're a decent team being held back by a negative manager.

[TKIZ!]

BL3, last season when we were on that long undefeated run you disappeard. We are is 7 games unbeaten, how any games will it take for you to f**k off again?

True that, we won and unbeaten in 7, 2 wins on the bounce. Positives

[bobo the clown]

BL3, last season when we were on that long undefeated run you disappeard. We are is 7 games unbeaten, how any games will it take for you to f**k off again?

True that, we won and unbeaten in 7, 2 wins on the bounce. Positives

It is an improvement on results ... but that 7 is 4 draws and 3 wins. The draws include home draws v Ipswich & Sheff. Wed. That could/should have been 5 wins, 2 draws ... we'd then have 4 more points and be placed at a mighty 11th ! Our early season form was THAT bad.

So, take the positives, of course, but let's not miss the head-start we gave everyone while DF experimented .... which is what I thought the close season and pre-season was for.

I remain unimpressed by his tactical approach of worrying more about the opposition than have them worry about us and defending deep when we are very capable of attacking with strength. Even yesterday, clearly the better side, once in front we sat back and invited them onto us. It's a way to play but is neither attractive nor easy to make work successfully. At home, against weaker teams, I simply don't 'get it'.

In the end it's about results, but there were under 15,000 there yesterday and that reflects a loss of belief and enjoyment.

[Dr.Karl]

Didn't think it was an amazing performance, scoreline certainly flattered us. I was a big critic of Ream but he's come good. I think thats to do with our organisation as a team, he looked woeful under Coyle but then Englands Gary Cahill had ropey few months too. Probably because our defence was more exposed than it is now. Moritz looked lively when he came on but he was playing a streched game which from what I saw suits him. Would like to see him start a few home games. His finish was superb. Beckford should take note. And on that is it just me or is Beckford just infuriating to watch?

[Worthy4England]

Didn't think it was an amazing performance, scoreline certainly flattered us. I was a big critic of Ream but he's come good. I think thats to do with our organisation as a team, he looked woeful under Coyle but then Englands Gary Cahill had ropey few months too. Probably because our defence was more exposed than it is now. Moritz looked lively when he came on but he was playing a streched game which from what I saw suits him. Would like to see him start a few home games. His finish was superb. Beckford should take note. And on that is it just me or is Beckford just infuriating to watch?

I agree it wasn't an amazing performance - I don't think the scoreline flattered us. First goal went via 8 players at least (a couple of them twice in the same move). At half time, I was thinking if we went more onto the front foot, we'd have had 4/5. Beckford could've comfortably got 3 (see highlights) - the one down the South Stand where half the crowd thought it was in, and another in the second half where he rounded the keeper.

Ream. I'm not at all convinced he's a central defender - was a good ball through for Beckford's goal though (Brucie, looks like Spearing that steps away from it) - and Mills and Ream being more challenged by better teams is still fairly unproven (for me). A quick look at their goal from yesterday hardly inspires confidence - but it's a partnership that's developing and improving.

Moritz did look quite lively when he came on - I'm not sure it's Beckford beware though, Beckford's finish was good too and he isn't half as infuriating to watch as N'gog...

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[Dave Sutton's barnet]

That Worthy-posted video, embedded.


Many a game in That Run Last Season, we brought on a third centre-back. I would agree that it might seem a touch negative at home to Millwall, but it seemed to work, just as it did at Bournemouth and at Birmingham. Maybe we should have done it at home to Ipswich and Sheffield Wednesday? Not really, but it seems to get results...

Of course, if we bring on an extra centre-back and then let a lead slip into a draw, the manager would quite understandably get pelters. As opposed to the glowing display of love he so uniformly gets at the minute.

Again, not really. It worries me when we do it, and I'd like to see us have a bit more belief in our ability to get at teams. But it does seem to be working.

[Worthy4England]

Ta, DSB.

[NiceHotCuppaTea]

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Didn't think it was an amazing performance, scoreline certainly flattered us. I was a big critic of Ream but he's come good. I think thats to do with our organisation as a team, he looked woeful under Coyle but then Englands Gary Cahill had ropey few months too. Probably because our defence was more exposed than it is now.

What did you make of Ream's part in their goal?

My take on Ream at centreback is that in more games than not he will have a weak moment that gives the opposition a clear goal-scoring opportunity. That's what happened yesterday, isn't it?

I'm not saying that we have a better option at the moment, incidentally.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I'm not saying that we have a better option at the moment, incidentally.

Oh but you have to, mother. This is the internets, where you have to be completely on one side or the other, and everything is as black and white as an apartheid chessboard.

[plymouth wanderer]

Looks as though the away fans were abusing (racist?) hall just after his goal