Ram it up 'em?! - Derby (A) 11/3/14

[a1]

Mason is ill according to Marc Iles hence the benching.

i heard douglas poisoned him just so he could play his "present to the fans" instead.

[Relentless09]

For the people that were crying for a 442 in this match, if we had lost by playing 442 what would you have said ?

1 point away against the team in 3rd place, I'll take that.

[Mar]

Pretty good result but the team selection makes you wonder 'what if'. Obviously there are other aspects at work (such as resting players and keeping the squad fresh and healthy) but it does make you wonder what would've happened had we had our front two instead of a solitary striker.

Pleasing to see us keep a clean sheet.

[a1]

i just wonder what score it wouldve been with mr cymbals-monkey clapping away at boundary park in a division 3 relegation six pointer.

a nil-nil draw at derby is like the best thing ever compared to that.

[William the White]

i just wonder what score it wouldve been with mr cymbals-monkey clapping away at boundary park in a division 3 relegation six pointer.

a nil-nil draw at derby is like the best thing ever compared to that.

It's not that I don't understand the words, I do, every one of them. But I've no idea what this post means.

[LeverEnd]

For the people that were crying for a 442 in this match, if we had lost by playing 442 what would you have said ?

1 point away against the team in 3rd place, I'll take that.

Yes I'll take that, and accept that there may be mitigating factors for the apparent negativity this evening.
But it just seems like he's determined to stick to some predefined cautious plan. I still think back to Leicester away last season when we lost 3-2 but played a blinder, and I said so because we had a go. That's what I want to see. There is no evidence at all that we can win games with these players by being defensive and sneaking a goal, but he's seems stubbornly determined to prove that we can.
On the face of it a decent result, but it still feels like a step back in terms of ambition and intent.

[DJBlu]

For the people that were crying for a 442 in this match, if we had lost by playing 442 what would you have said ?

1 point away against the team in 3rd place, I'll take that.

And if Conor Sammon could finish what would you have said?
What if we'd have scored 3 and won with 4-4-2?

We can all play that game.

Expect 4-5-1 Saturday as we got the clean sheet he is so paranoid about achieving.

[a1]

It's not that I don't understand the words, I do, every one of them. But I've no idea what this post means.

i'm saying under coyle it'd be worse. i'm surmising that if we kept him we'd be in the third division already, trying to avoid getting relegated to the bottom division while oldham beat us.

its going over super old ground , but the 'digs' just come to me, i'm still pissed off about it.

a cymbals monkey is a toy. according to wikipedia there's one in 'phantom of the opera' which ,i think, is some kinda of stage play.. him out of "some mothers do have 'em " (a tv comedy) played the main character.

[Jakerbeef]

If he's pushing the boat out at home and keeping it tight against the higher-ranked teams away, then that at least is a little progress. We go gung-ho we could end up where Coyle had us. Sorting out defense was Freedman's first priority way back. The best form of defense though, is a good offense.

i just wonder what score it wouldve been with mr cymbals-monkey clapping away at boundary park in a division 3 relegation six pointer.

a nil-nil draw at derby is like the best thing ever compared to that.

[Prufrock]

In the end a result which set against the season is a decent one. I am just disappointed that he reverted to the "let's worry about them" mentality. What's been uplifting in the past few games is that we've taken the game to teams ... and it's come off. I can't for my life work out how his mind works.

I agree in principle, but I'm ok with 'let's worry about them when it's away to 3rd in the league. I like a manager who can adapt. There's no guarantees we wouldn't have won if we'd gone for it, but I'm happy in the circumstances. Saturday is the big test. I'll be surprised and pissed if, fitness permitting, he didn't go back to how we've been playing.

And a1,

[Bruce Rioja]

I'd have taken a point before the game.

Yes, me too. However, I'd have taken a point after us having gone for all three.

Exactly what I was thinking. Bruce, you are clearly a very wise man.

I suppose we could have equally lost it that way too. A few weeks ago we'd have lost this game horribly, so the progress is good.

Frankly I think a point is good however it was achieved.

Tinkering with the team put pressure on Douglas to get something out of the game though, but I guess his decision paid off.

True - but it's shit or bust time. Why not go for it? It's worked for the last three games.

[BWFC_Insane]

I'd have taken a point before the game.

Yes, me too. However, I'd have taken a point after us having gone for all three.

Exactly what I was thinking. Bruce, you are clearly a very wise man.

I suppose we could have equally lost it that way too. A few weeks ago we'd have lost this game horribly, so the progress is good.

Frankly I think a point is good however it was achieved.

Tinkering with the team put pressure on Douglas to get something out of the game though, but I guess his decision paid off.

True - but it's shit or bust time. Why not go for it? It's worked for the last three games.

Well, as it turns out Mason was ill.

So he put in the next most attacking option he had available in the squad (one might even argue more of an attacking luxury than Mason) into the starting line up.

With that piece of information the change makes sense.

[Bruce Rioja]

Well, as it turns out Mason was ill.

So he put in the next most attacking option he had available in the squad (one might even argue more of an attacking luxury than Mason) into the starting line up.

With that piece of information the change makes sense.

Well he can't have been all that ill or else he wouldn't have been on the bench.

[bobby]

I saw no problem with Dougie's tactics last night. Didn't see the game, but on paper, playing 4-5-1 away from home against Derby seems sensible.
We're on a good run, and I'd much rather keep the momentum behind us, rather than risk getting stuffed like at Reading.
A draw last night will give the players confidence going into the next game. If Mason was ill then it's best he was rested.
Brighton will be another test, but one, hopefully, the players will go into ready to grind out a good result.
Freedman spoke about getting the right characters into the dressing room, and he's been able to do this albeit on a shoestring budget. Now it's crucial we press on, take draws when we can't win, and pick as many possible points until the end of the season.
Very slowly it seems we are heading in the right direction, and we are right to give the players and manager some credit for this.

[jaffka]

Well, as it turns out Mason was ill.

So he put in the next most attacking option he had available in the squad (one might even argue more of an attacking luxury than Mason) into the starting line up.

With that piece of information the change makes sense.

Well he can't have been all that ill or else he wouldn't have been on the bench.

Which is exactly what I think.

[Prufrock]

No other fit strikers. Juke gets injured after 5 mins, I'd rather have an ill Mason than no one.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

No other fit strikers. Juke gets injured after 5 mins, I'd rather have an ill Mason than no one.

But what if that made him more ill and put him out for longer? Personally, I think you either need to be completely fit to play or you take the break and not risk further time out.

[Bruce Rioja]

No other fit strikers. Juke gets injured after 5 mins, I'd rather have an ill Mason than no one.

A redhoocliossly short-term view. I don't believe that he's ill at all.

[Prufrock]

I doubt he was on death's door. Probably just feeling under the weather - could play, but energy levels not there.

It's that or another conspiracy theory .

Fcuk me.

[Bruce Rioja]

I doubt he was on death's door. Probably just feeling under the weather - could play, but energy levels not there.

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Ergo - can't play and shouldn't be on the bench.

Yes - feck you.