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Re: By Eck- T' Huddersfield Match Thread

Post by jonnycooper » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:14 pm

Half of Leicester wanted Pearson out a year ago but he was allowed the time to get his team playing together.Sticking with him seems to have paid off.

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Post by bobo the clown » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:20 pm

jonnycooper wrote:Half of Leicester wanted Pearson out a year ago but he was allowed the time to get his team playing together.Sticking with him seems to have paid off.
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Post by TonyDomingos » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:25 pm

Enoch wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The problem is this is a shitter end to the season than last season's end to the season
2012/13 games 31 - 40 -- 6 wins - 2 draws - 2 defeats - 20 points.

2013/14 games 31 - 40 -- 5 wins - 4 draws - 1 defeat - 19 points.

Factually correct, Spotty, based on this set of figures.

2012/13 games 11 - 40 -- 12 wins - 10 draws - 8 defeats - 46 points.

2013/14 games 11 - 40 -- 11 wins - 10 draws - 9 defeat - 43 points.

On this set of figures too!

I was a little surprised by those figures and I'm not one to judge Freedman too harshly, I had thought the gap might be bigger. It appears to me though that the horrendous start to the season is about all that stands between last years lauded effort and this terms diabolical disaster.
Yes indeed. For 75% of the season to date, our form has been very close to that of Reading (the difference is 0.14ppg), who currently occupy the final play off spot.

So blame - if you must - Dougie for the poor results in the first ten games, but give him credit for managing a top six team since October.
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Post by bobo the clown » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:30 pm

↑↑↑ which he did last year as well ..
& then fckd it up.

The test will be next year's start I guess.
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Post by Armchair Wanderer » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:14 pm

Every year I start off optimistic! If we were to shift some relics over the summer and be left with a young-ish hungry team who wanted to play how Dougie wanted I'd be happy and optimistic... and the cycle would continue :)
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Post by Enoch » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:44 pm

Armchair Wanderer wrote:Every year I start off optimistic! If we were to shift some relics over the summer and be left with a young-ish hungry team who wanted to play how Dougie wanted I'd be happy and optimistic... and the cycle would continue :)
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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:56 pm

Anybody who went have any comments on the ref? The commentators were sure we should have had at least one penalty. What the truth of it?
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:03 pm

jonnycooper wrote:Half of Leicester wanted Pearson out a year ago but he was allowed the time to get his team playing together.Sticking with him seems to have paid off.
Is that true? There was talk of their board losing patience but I'd be surprised if many of the fans wanted him gone. They were the best side to come to the Reebok and were only a crap penalty away from the play off final
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Post by Tombwfc » Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:46 am

TonyDomingos wrote:
Enoch wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The problem is this is a shitter end to the season than last season's end to the season
2012/13 games 31 - 40 -- 6 wins - 2 draws - 2 defeats - 20 points.

2013/14 games 31 - 40 -- 5 wins - 4 draws - 1 defeat - 19 points.

Factually correct, Spotty, based on this set of figures.

2012/13 games 11 - 40 -- 12 wins - 10 draws - 8 defeats - 46 points.

2013/14 games 11 - 40 -- 11 wins - 10 draws - 9 defeat - 43 points.

On this set of figures too!

I was a little surprised by those figures and I'm not one to judge Freedman too harshly, I had thought the gap might be bigger. It appears to me though that the horrendous start to the season is about all that stands between last years lauded effort and this terms diabolical disaster.
Yes indeed. For 75% of the season to date, our form has been very close to that of Reading (the difference is 0.14ppg), who currently occupy the final play off spot.

So blame - if you must - Dougie for the poor results in the first ten games, but give him credit for managing a top six team since October.
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One of the most bizarre posts I've ever read on this site. And that's praise indeed.

Anyway, congrats to the team for pulling out a good away win, I hope we're already looking towards making some of these loans permanent.

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Post by Enoch » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:53 am

Tombwfc wrote:
TonyDomingos wrote:
Enoch wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The problem is this is a shitter end to the season than last season's end to the season
2012/13 games 31 - 40 -- 6 wins - 2 draws - 2 defeats - 20 points.

2013/14 games 31 - 40 -- 5 wins - 4 draws - 1 defeat - 19 points.

Factually correct, Spotty, based on this set of figures.

2012/13 games 11 - 40 -- 12 wins - 10 draws - 8 defeats - 46 points.

2013/14 games 11 - 40 -- 11 wins - 10 draws - 9 defeat - 43 points.

On this set of figures too!

I was a little surprised by those figures and I'm not one to judge Freedman too harshly, I had thought the gap might be bigger. It appears to me though that the horrendous start to the season is about all that stands between last years lauded effort and this terms diabolical disaster.
Yes indeed. For 75% of the season to date, our form has been very close to that of Reading (the difference is 0.14ppg), who currently occupy the final play off spot.

So blame - if you must - Dougie for the poor results in the first ten games, but give him credit for managing a top six team since October.
:shock:

One of the most bizarre posts I've ever read on this site. And that's praise indeed.

Anyway, congrats to the team for pulling out a good away win, I hope we're already looking towards making some of these loans permanent.
Bolton:

2012/13 games 31 - 40 -- 6 wins - 2 draws - 2 defeats - 20 points.

2013/14 games 11 - 40 -- 11 wins - 10 draws - 9 defeat - 43 points.

Reading:

2013/14 games 31 - 40 -- 4 wins - 4 draws - 2 defeats - 16 points.

2013/14 games 11 - 40 -- 12 wins - 8 draws - 10 defeats - 44 points.

Bizarre!

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Post by TonyDomingos » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:08 am

Enoch wrote:
Tombwfc wrote:
TonyDomingos wrote:
Enoch wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The problem is this is a shitter end to the season than last season's end to the season
2012/13 games 31 - 40 -- 6 wins - 2 draws - 2 defeats - 20 points.

2013/14 games 31 - 40 -- 5 wins - 4 draws - 1 defeat - 19 points.

Factually correct, Spotty, based on this set of figures.

2012/13 games 11 - 40 -- 12 wins - 10 draws - 8 defeats - 46 points.

2013/14 games 11 - 40 -- 11 wins - 10 draws - 9 defeat - 43 points.

On this set of figures too!

I was a little surprised by those figures and I'm not one to judge Freedman too harshly, I had thought the gap might be bigger. It appears to me though that the horrendous start to the season is about all that stands between last years lauded effort and this terms diabolical disaster.
Yes indeed. For 75% of the season to date, our form has been very close to that of Reading (the difference is 0.14ppg), who currently occupy the final play off spot.

So blame - if you must - Dougie for the poor results in the first ten games, but give him credit for managing a top six team since October.
:shock:

One of the most bizarre posts I've ever read on this site. And that's praise indeed.

Anyway, congrats to the team for pulling out a good away win, I hope we're already looking towards making some of these loans permanent.
Bolton:

2012/13 games 31 - 40 -- 6 wins - 2 draws - 2 defeats - 20 points.

2013/14 games 11 - 40 -- 11 wins - 10 draws - 9 defeat - 43 points.

Reading:

2013/14 games 31 - 40 -- 4 wins - 4 draws - 2 defeats - 16 points.

2013/14 games 11 - 40 -- 12 wins - 8 draws - 10 defeats - 44 points.

Bizarre!
Thanks, Enoch!

Tom - I suppose the subtext to my post was that Dougie had an horrendous start to the season, but he rectified it and has sustained the improvement over a decent period of time - we've been achieving play off form for six months now. I know that's little consolation when we're actually in 15th, but I think that he isn't as bad as some make out.
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Post by CrazyHorse » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:22 am

So basically you're ignoring the games where he's been utter shite and then by just looking at the ones where we've got favourable results drawn the conclusion that our form isn't as bad as some make out.
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Post by thebish » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:27 am

CrazyHorse wrote:So basically you're ignoring the games where he's been utter shite and then by just looking at the ones where we've got favourable results drawn the conclusion that our form isn't as bad as some make out.
Genius.

careful, Crazy... that's dangerously close to you suggesting that dougie has not been utterly shoite in the last 29 games... you'll be branded a dougie-lover and hounded into obscurity!! :wink:

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Post by TKIZ! » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:31 am

CrazyHorse wrote:So basically you're ignoring the games where he's been utter shite and then by just looking at the ones where we've got favourable results drawn the conclusion that our form isn't as bad as some make out.
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Post by wonka » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:19 am

The frustrating thing is though, however good our form has been recently, there have been plenty of games where I think we could have played a lot better.

Even a simpleton football fan like me can tell the difference between positive & negative tactics. I don't need a coaching badge for that. And what I can say is that our negative tactics have tended to backfire. But whenever we take the initiative, and attack the opposition, more often than not we at least get a draw, if not the victory.

So I'm willing to pat Dougie on the back for grinding out results, but when you take a look at the whole season, we've had a lot of games where our tactical approach has cost us dearly.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:38 am

Mark Robbins claims ( as losing managers often do) that Huddersfield "absolutely battered" us for possession but just couldn't finish. Is this a fair assessment? They had the home advantage and it did sound on the airwaves as if they had a fair share of the ball but it certainly didn't sound all one-sided. What's the reality?

It seems pretty much as if we'll finish the season round about where we are, going off the positions right now. A couple of more wins won't really move us far, but at least we'll be well safe. All about next season then?
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Post by Worthy4England » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:45 am

thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
Worthy4England wrote::conf: We've conceded more in our last ten aways, than we did in our first ten aways...
Someone might argue there's an outlier in that data set from a horror show in Berkshire :D! In six of them we conceded one goal or fewer.

I'd say a team that plays ten games with nine clean sheets and one game where they concede 25 is more solid that one which concedes two in each game :D.

But I agree with you on systems.

I'm still not handing out a shred of credit to anyone who claims they were calling for 4-4-2 all along. This wonky diamond is not what they meant, and is no nearer a flat 4 than it is the 4-2-3-1 when we play with 5.

Also, according to the live twitter we scored from a corner so feck knows what the system has to do with it.

But most of all, as TKIZ points out, FECKING GET IN!

^ rare words of sense... BRAVO! :D :oyea:
You trying to say Pru normally talks bollocks? :D

Yes it does contain a couple of outliers, think the 5 conceded against Leicester are in there too. Two outliers in a dataset of 10 is 20%, which sorta makes them a bit less like outliers.

Either way I'm struggling to get too excited about having little to play for in the Championship.

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Post by bobo the clown » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:55 am

TANGODANCER wrote:It seems pretty much as if we'll finish the season round about where we are, going off the positions right now. A couple of more wins won't really move us far, but at least we'll be well safe. All about next season then?
Correct, so unless, as per the Premiership, there's significant money per position, we should now see something of a few of the youngsters ..... you'd think .... wouldn't you ?
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Post by bwfcdan94 » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:02 am

I thought the game was absolutely dire and probably one of the worse I have ever seen, we were the weaker team and how we did not concede I don't know with Freedman playing the usual 4-5-1 hoofball. However everything changed when he brought on Mason, with two up front we looked so much better and of course he went on to score the winner, we could have had a second in the last minute. 3 points that we did not deserve but ultimately we are now safe from relegation, yet again Bogdan bailed us out time and time again, if we had an average goalie in the sticks we would have probably lost 3-0, he was truly outstanding again as im delighted to say given how many times I have held faith in him while others have slagged him off. Good atmosphere created by our fans although the Hudds fans did not sing even once. My highlight was when the lad who sat in the row in front of me fell asleep after having a few to many and as a result missed most of the 2nd half.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:05 am

TANGODANCER wrote:Mark Robbins claims ( as losing managers often do) that Huddersfield "absolutely battered" us for possession but just couldn't finish. Is this a fair assessment?
According tert' Beeb, they had 57% against our 43%. They also had 22 cracks at goal against our 11 with 8 of theirs being on target against our 4. However, the Scorer has recorded thus: Bolton Wanderers - One goal to the good. Huddersfield Town - No goals whatsoever. :lol:
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