Adam Bogdan

Where fellow sufferers gather to share the pain, longing and unrequited transfer requests that make being a Wanderer what it is...

Moderator: Zulus Thousand of em

Post Reply
User avatar
Bruce Rioja
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 38742
Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:19 pm
Location: Drifting into the arena of the unwell.

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:18 am

BWFC_Insane wrote: Why because he's performed for a couple of months?
A criteria which seems to work well enough for your suggestion.
May the bridges I burn light your way

jaffka
Legend
Legend
Posts: 8439
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:36 pm
Location: uk

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by jaffka » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:01 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: Why because he's performed for a couple of months?
A criteria which seems to work well enough for your suggestion.
Surely not more double standards :shock:

Holden midfielder
Promising
Promising
Posts: 324
Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:41 pm

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by Holden midfielder » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:26 pm

We need to stick with the lad and let him develop. Will do a steady job for us in the future.

jaffka
Legend
Legend
Posts: 8439
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:36 pm
Location: uk

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by jaffka » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:10 pm

Holden midfielder wrote:We need to stick with the lad and let him develop. Will do a steady job for us in the future.
he is doing a steady job now...long may it continue :oyea:

jonnycooper
Dedicated
Dedicated
Posts: 1109
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:13 pm
Location: Fleetwood

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by jonnycooper » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:04 pm

There isn't and never has been a keeper in this country that has played consistently well'all of the time.All keepers are prone to clangers and bad form during their career.However Bogdan has proved time and again that he's very good at his job.I can't name another keeper in this division who I would prefer at Bolton in the long term!

ChrisC
Passionate
Passionate
Posts: 3959
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:32 am
Location: Westhoughton

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by ChrisC » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:38 pm

jonnycooper wrote:There isn't and never has been a keeper in this country that has played consistently well'all of the time.All keepers are prone to clangers and bad form during their career.However Bogdan has proved time and again that he's very good at his job.I can't name another keeper in this division who I would prefer at Bolton in the long term!
Kasper Schmeichel please 8)

thebish
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 37589
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:01 am
Location: In my armchair

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by thebish » Sun May 18, 2014 12:47 pm

hmmmm...

boggers... extend his contract or let him go for nowt next year?
WANDERERS are weighing up whether to offer Adam Bogdan an extended contract this summer.

Dougie Freedman wants to keep his Hungarian keeper, who is entering into the final year of his current deal, but admits the club’s tight financial situation could count against him.

The Scot must now gamble on whether to spend some of his budget securing the 26-year-old to a longer deal – or risk losing him for nothing next summer.

Bogdan, one of only six players signed for next season who played for Wanderers in the Premier League, has made no secret of his desire to return to the top flight.

He has admirers both at home and on the continent, but insists he is happy at Bolton, leaving Freedman with a tough decision to make in the next couple of months.

User avatar
Prufrock
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 24831
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:51 pm

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by Prufrock » Sun May 18, 2014 12:50 pm

Typical, he finally starts looking good just in time for his last year!

IMO we should only be considering two options:

1) Offer a new contract. This is the obvious one, but depends on what he wants.

2) Sell him now. If we can't afford to keep him, cash in. This new magical financial model isn't going to work if our saleable assets keep going for free.
In a world that has decided
That it's going to lose its mind
Be more kind, my friends, try to be more kind.

bobo the clown
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 19597
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:49 am
Location: N Wales, but close enough to Chester I can pretend I'm in England
Contact:

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by bobo the clown » Sun May 18, 2014 1:02 pm

Just so long as we don't end up in the Jussi two-yearly tooth-drawing saga.

As said, get him to sign an extentual or sell now. He still has some decent value but won't have by February.
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
"I understand you are a very good footballer" ... "I try".

User avatar
Abdoulaye's Twin
Legend
Legend
Posts: 9714
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:27 pm
Location: Skye high

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sun May 18, 2014 1:15 pm

Aye. Pru speaketh with logic. If we can't agree a reasonable extension then get what we can. Lonners is perfectly competent and I'm sure an ok back-up can be found if needed.

User avatar
BWFC_Insane
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 38813
Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:07 pm

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun May 18, 2014 1:18 pm

bobo the clown wrote:Just so long as we don't end up in the Jussi two-yearly tooth-drawing saga.

As said, get him to sign an extentual or sell now. He still has some decent value but won't have by February.
It's all very football manager this.

1) a contract needs agreement from the player his agent but also the financial bods in charge of Bolton.

2) Unless a club is actually desperate why wouldn't they wait out a year for Boggers to be available? He's not that hot a property. I'm sure we could sell him for a very cheap fee but that defeats the point.

Players hold the power now especially when your club is essentially broke. I'd just wait and see what happened this season, if I was Dougie, before committing the club financially.
Last edited by BWFC_Insane on Sun May 18, 2014 1:31 pm, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
Bruce Rioja
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 38742
Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:19 pm
Location: Drifting into the arena of the unwell.

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun May 18, 2014 1:19 pm

Wants to play in the Premier League? Yeah, I quite fancy having a crack at that myself, Ginge.
May the bridges I burn light your way

User avatar
Abdoulaye's Twin
Legend
Legend
Posts: 9714
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:27 pm
Location: Skye high

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sun May 18, 2014 1:23 pm

I thought we had to comply with FFP Insano? Surely Boggers is on a more expensive contract than Lonners. Plus a small fee.

Every little helps...

User avatar
BWFC_Insane
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 38813
Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:07 pm

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun May 18, 2014 1:33 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:I thought we had to comply with FFP Insano? Surely Boggers is on a more expensive contract than Lonners. Plus a small fee.

Every little helps...
Well if someone comes in with a bid you have to weigh that up.

I'm saying that it isn't as simple as saying do a new deal or sell.

Doesn't work like that, both scenarios involve others doing something.

User avatar
Abdoulaye's Twin
Legend
Legend
Posts: 9714
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:27 pm
Location: Skye high

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sun May 18, 2014 1:36 pm

Well of course someone would have to buy him, goes without saying. But, the financial reality we are in means we have to offload the higher earners and get fees for players if we can. We can't afford to lose assets for nothing blah blah..

User avatar
Worthy4England
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 34731
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 6:45 pm

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by Worthy4England » Sun May 18, 2014 1:41 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:Wants to play in the Premier League? Yeah, I quite fancy having a crack at that myself, Ginge.
I'll offer you £25k per week if that's ok? Because that'll make you a better player than if I only offer you a paltry £6k per week.

That good with you?

User avatar
Prufrock
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 24831
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:51 pm

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by Prufrock » Sun May 18, 2014 1:58 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:I thought we had to comply with FFP Insano? Surely Boggers is on a more expensive contract than Lonners. Plus a small fee.

Every little helps...
Well if someone comes in with a bid you have to weigh that up.

I'm saying that it isn't as simple as saying do a new deal or sell.

Doesn't work like that, both scenarios involve others doing something.
Well, to be fair, I thought it was obvious that it dependind on other things was a given, but apparently not.

Not like we're powerless though. When you want to sell a player I doubt you sit by the phone hoping that by chance someone comes in for that player.

And whilst teams might want to wait a year, plenty might not! I doubt Chelsea are going to sit out for the rest of Diego Costa's contract to run down are they?

Sure, we might not be able to agree a new contract, and we might not be able to sell him but we should try rather than sitting around like Marvin the Paranoid Android moping.

"Oh, he'll probably leave for free at the end, what's the point".
In a world that has decided
That it's going to lose its mind
Be more kind, my friends, try to be more kind.

User avatar
Prufrock
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 24831
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:51 pm

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by Prufrock » Sun May 18, 2014 2:02 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Wants to play in the Premier League? Yeah, I quite fancy having a crack at that myself, Ginge.
I'll offer you £25k per week if that's ok? Because that'll make you a better player than if I only offer you a paltry £6k per week.

That good with you?
I'd wait to see what he's like facing free-kicks from behind a wall before committing to that if I were you, Worthy.

:fingers: :grin:
In a world that has decided
That it's going to lose its mind
Be more kind, my friends, try to be more kind.

thebish
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 37589
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:01 am
Location: In my armchair

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by thebish » Sun May 18, 2014 2:04 pm

i think it's an interesting question - and probably one that it's difficult for dougie to "win" either way..

if we splash the cash to keep boggers - then (presumably) he'll have less to splash elsewhere - and because we already have boggers - nobody is excited by the new signing and dougie gets it in the neck for wasting his cash and not buying a tipetty-top striker - after all we have lonergan and everyone knows he is much better than calamity boggers...

or... we don't splash the cash - but splash a smaller amount for a decent understudy for Lonergan - and then Lonergan gets injured on day one - and the cheaper stand-in turns out to be a bit gash - and everyone condemns dougie for his short-term thinking on getting rid of boggers for a pittance... the kind of amount we could not replace him for...

User avatar
Worthy4England
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 34731
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 6:45 pm

Re: Adam Bogdan

Post by Worthy4England » Sun May 18, 2014 2:17 pm

At the minute, and recognizing the second half of the season improvement Boggers made, I'm still not convinced that he's anywhere near indispensable, should he be looking for more than we're willing to pay him.

However using NLP, Douggie should be able to demonstrate.

1) The average salary for Bolton's squad is now much lower than it used to be.
2) Consequentially, it's for everyone to get on message with less being the new norm.
3) Therefore the positive action would be for Boggers not to let his team-mates down and sign for a grand a month.
4) If not, Accrington have put in a bid.

Simples.

#Sinister
Last edited by Worthy4England on Sun May 18, 2014 2:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: knobpolisher and 27 guests