Bedsheets, Pitchforks and colours nailed etc.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

No need for humble pie LE! If 99% of BWFC supporters were honest,we thought Garty had played a blinder! And look at the shit we,re in,yet still no(Lennon out) thread!It hasn't worked because he isn't as good a Manager/coach as we all assumed he was! He had 4years or so with absolutely no opposition to his Scottish title wins,and most probably a lot of canny coaches around him! Has he now been found out? I really don't want to give an opinion because I want him to be a success here! But as the saying goes! You're only as good as your last job!

What do you mean, still no Lennon out thread? You've just posted on it!

[Dr Hotdog]

I would argue that Lennon and BWFC had a considerably better squad than Birmingham,he let Kellett and Davies go and signed Madine and Dervite? Very astute!

GUILTY on signing Madine.
NOT GUILTY on signing Dervite. (although he does pick him to play from time to time).

On paper, letting Davies go and getting in a similar player with fewer injuries sounds great to me. Either way, I'm not sure that had a massive impact on anything.

Wasn't it letting Kellett go, signing 100 fullbacks, and not playing them!?

Didn't it start going really bad when that Nordic fellow left? Anything to do with anything?

Gary Madine is in no way shape or form a similar player with fewer injuries to Craig Davies.

Compare their goal records throughout their careers (both relatively nomadic). Nothing in Madine's history makes it looks like he could ever cut it at Championship level whereas Davies was flying for Barnsley in our league when we signed him for £300k.

[Peter Thompson]

I would argue that Lennon and BWFC had a considerably better squad than Birmingham,he let Kellett and Davies go and signed Madine and Dervite? Very astute!

GUILTY on signing Madine.
NOT GUILTY on signing Dervite. (although he does pick him to play from time to time).

On paper, letting Davies go and getting in a similar player with fewer injuries sounds great to me. Either way, I'm not sure that had a massive impact on anything.

Wasn't it letting Kellett go, signing 100 fullbacks, and not playing them!?

Didn't it start going really bad when that Nordic fellow left? Anything to do with anything?

Gary Madine is in no way shape or form a similar player with fewer injuries to Craig Davies.

Compare their goal records throughout their careers (both relatively nomadic). Nothing in Madine's history makes it looks like he could ever cut it at Championship level whereas Davies was flying for Barnsley in our league when we signed him for £300k.

Craig Davies was twice the player Madine is - Madine is a League 1 / League 2 standard on a very good day, I can't recall many strikers we have had that were much worse, & that includes the Div3 / Div4 days in the 80's - he's probably in the same bracket as Trevor Morgan.

[LeverEnd]

From my limited memory of Morgan he was a fat lad who wasn't very good but probably did his best. Madine has ability but is just a soft-arsed bottler. (Unless confronted by a defenceless drunk in a club)

[officer_dibble]

Its a shame lennon wont do the decent thing. But cant say I blame him. Like Coyle, Megson I cannot see him getting another job in this country.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

From my limited memory of Morgan he was a fat lad who wasn't very good but probably did his best. Madine has ability

Correct. Sumo was an awful footballer, he wouldn't get anywhere near a League Two squad these days, but he usually put himself about a bit.

[Worthy4England]

We have a number of players that boast reasonable Premiership experience - Mavies = 80-odd, Spearing = 30ish, Wheater = prolly in the 70/80 mark. Vela, Ameobi, Heskey (I'll give the last two some age related leeway), Pratley 30ish Prem appearances.

From a quick glance, Huddersfield had about half a doz Prem appearances in the entire squad - I could be doing them a disservice they might have a few more.

Who are these fckers kidding that they're Prem players - they're looking like Div 1 players.

We bitch and moan about Feeney, Danns and Madine - players who haven't been near the Prem and aren't going to get there, yet we have half a team with Prem experience that aren't rising to the challenge in front of them. Pathetic.

[Andy Waller]

We have a number of players that boast reasonable Premiership experience - Mavies = 80-odd, Spearing = 30ish, Wheater = prolly in the 70/80 mark. Vela, Ameobi, Heskey (I'll give the last two some age related leeway), Pratley 30ish Prem appearances.

From a quick glance, Huddersfield had about half a doz Prem appearances in the entire squad - I could be doing them a disservice they might have a few more.

Who are these fckers kidding that they're Prem players - they're looking like Div 1 players.

We bitch and moan about Feeney, Danns and Madine - players who haven't been near the Prem and aren't going to get there, yet we have half a team with Prem experience that aren't rising to the challenge in front of them. Pathetic.

+1

People moan at these three but they are what they are.

Davies was disgusting yesterday. Amos kicked the ball from his hands late on in the game, he had hold of it for a few seconds and Davies didn't even look. Just turned his back while the ball went over his head.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I firmly believe that football sides are in sum greater than their parts and the multiplying factor is the spirit imbued by the manager. This side/squad is lacking because Lennon's spirit is a tiny gnarled thing.

[thebish]

I firmly believe that football sides are in sum greater than their parts and the multiplying factor is the spirit imbued by the manager. This side/squad is lacking because Lennon's spirit is a tiny gnarled thing.

indeed. this be true.

[jonnycooper]

Feeney? No world beater,but a darn sight better than a lot in this division! What that lad lacks in skill,he makes up for in effort! He never stops trying to create something,the rest of the squad could learn a thing or two from him! Feeney is the type of character this Club needs right now,and is one of only a very few who deserves to even get paid right now! He wants the ball all the time and doesn't stop trying...

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I firmly believe that football sides are in sum greater than their parts and the multiplying factor is the spirit imbued by the manager. This side/squad is lacking because Lennon's spirit is a tiny gnarled thing.

indeed. this be true.

As is its obverse. If the sum is greater than the parts, it's to the manager's credit. If the sum is less than its parts, it's the manager's fault.

[thebish]

I firmly believe that football sides are in sum greater than their parts and the multiplying factor is the spirit imbued by the manager. This side/squad is lacking because Lennon's spirit is a tiny gnarled thing.

indeed. this be true.

As is its obverse. If the sum is greater than the parts, it's to the manager's credit. If the sum is less than its parts, it's the manager's fault.

indeed - this too be true.

[Bruce Rioja]

Craig Davies was twice the player Madine is - Madine is a League 1 / League 2 standard on a very good day, I can't recall many strikers we have had that were much worse, & that includes the Div3 / Div4 days in the 80's - he's probably in the same bracket as Trevor Morgan.

I think you're being too kind to Madine there, PT, and a bit mean on Sumo. I honestly can't recall another CF we've had who's successfully combined being as shite and as lightweight as Madine. The only header he won yesterday was the one that he put three feet wide of the target from four feet out, which I'd say tells everyone all that they really need to know.

[plymouth wanderer]

We have a number of players that boast reasonable Premiership experience - Mavies = 80-odd, Spearing = 30ish, Wheater = prolly in the 70/80 mark. Vela, Ameobi, Heskey (I'll give the last two some age related leeway), Pratley 30ish Prem appearances.

From a quick glance, Huddersfield had about half a doz Prem appearances in the entire squad - I could be doing them a disservice they might have a few more.

Who are these fckers kidding that they're Prem players - they're looking like Div 1 players.

We bitch and moan about Feeney, Danns and Madine - players who haven't been near the Prem and aren't going to get there, yet we have half a team with Prem experience that aren't rising to the challenge in front of them. Pathetic.

And Feeney and Danns are probably the hardest workers in the squad! yet seem to get most of the stick!

[StaffsTrotter]

I would argue that Lennon and BWFC had a considerably better squad than Birmingham,he let Kellett and Davies go and signed Madine and Dervite? Very astute!

GUILTY on signing Madine.
NOT GUILTY on signing Dervite. (although he does pick him to play from time to time).

On paper, letting Davies go and getting in a similar player with fewer injuries sounds great to me. Either way, I'm not sure that had a massive impact on anything.

Wasn't it letting Kellett go, signing 100 fullbacks, and not playing them!?

Didn't it start going really bad when that Nordic fellow left? Anything to do with anything?

Gary Madine is in no way shape or form a similar player with fewer injuries to Craig Davies.

Compare their goal records throughout their careers (both relatively nomadic). Nothing in Madine's history makes it looks like he could ever cut it at Championship level whereas Davies was flying for Barnsley in our league when we signed him for £300k.

Craig Davies was twice the player Madine is - Madine is a League 1 / League 2 standard on a very good day, I can't recall many strikers we have had that were much worse, & that includes the Div3 / Div4 days in the 80's - he's probably in the same bracket as Trevor Morgan.

overegging it there PT. I was surprised when Davies was released (partic after he'd helped that couple with the car breakdown) but the injury prone reasoning seemed sound. Probably like you yesterday, I was yearning for someone hold it up or at least make it difficult for their defenders like he did - but in fairness other than his physical prescence, I seem to remember quite a few balls bouncing off him (also think we were spoilt for a few years in that role by a certain SKD). I'd expect more from Madine, but FWIW I still reckon Madine wasnt signed as our main front man - his availability meant he was first in, but I'd argue NL thought that at the time he'd be getting the money for at least ALF.
Btw - C Davies doesnt seem to be ripping up trees down the road - 7 appearances 2 goals !

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Btw - C Davies doesnt seem to be ripping up trees down the road - 7 appearances 2 goals !

That constitutes ripping up trees round these parts

[thebish]

Btw - C Davies doesnt seem to be ripping up trees down the road - 7 appearances 2 goals !

indeed... I quite liked Cravies - but he was never really our saviour... absence makes the heart grow fonder methinks...

[LeverEnd]

Indeed, people will be pining for Danns and Feeney when we are struggling in League 2!

[thebish]

Indeed, people will be pining for Danns and Feeney when we are struggling in League 2!

nahh - we'll be pining for the fjordtoft... err... coat