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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:33 pm

Wasn't quite sure where to put this, but: someone's done some quantitative analysis on the division and given us a 38% chance of staying up. (Charlton: 11%.)

http://experimental361.com/2016/01/03/e ... -jan-2016/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by jonnycooper » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:13 pm

And Lennon blames players inconsistency for our defeat vs Huddersfield! When will he learn? I have never known of a Manager whom never once attaches any blame to himself for (his) teams poor performances!

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Post by Hoboh » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:16 pm

jonnycooper wrote:And Lennon blames players inconsistency for our defeat vs Huddersfield! When will he learn? I have never known of a Manager whom never once attaches any blame to himself for (his) teams poor performances!
Behave, we've had a few!

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Post by norm the jedi » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:58 pm

Hoboh wrote:
jonnycooper wrote:And Lennon blames players inconsistency for our defeat vs Huddersfield! When will he learn? I have never known of a Manager whom never once attaches any blame to himself for (his) teams poor performances!
Behave, we've had a few!
Come to think of it I can't really remember any of them giving it the mia culpa.. I've only been watching since Jimmy Armfield though :-)
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Post by thebish » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:02 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Wasn't quite sure where to put this, but: someone's done some quantitative analysis on the division and given us a 38% chance of staying up. (Charlton: 11%.)

http://experimental361.com/2016/01/03/e ... -jan-2016/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

see - things are looking brighter! we're not dead certs for relegation! yay! :D

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Post by Nicko58 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:26 pm

jonnycooper wrote:And Lennon blames players inconsistency for our defeat vs Huddersfield! When will he learn? I have never known of a Manager whom never once attaches any blame to himself for (his) teams poor performances!
He took responsibility for the defeat at Middlesbrough and vowed never to try a 3-5-2 formation again. He did then try 3-5-2 a few months later with the same predictable result, but still, he has taken responsibility.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:14 am

jonnycooper wrote:And Lennon blames players inconsistency for our defeat vs Huddersfield! When will he learn? I have never known of a Manager whom never once attaches any blame to himself for (his) teams poor performances!

To be fair though, he didn't try to take any Sammy Lee positives out of it.
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Post by thebish » Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:37 pm

yay - two of our past managers make the cut!! :D

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:01 pm

I wonder if in hindsight we should have just stuck with Lee and let nature play it's course. Given him modest sums to bring in younger players and develop our own. Not chase premiership survival with new managers and increasing wage bills but rather let Lee see if he could translate his coaching into something more tangible.

Sure we would have gone down and everyone, myself included, would have been fuming at the time but now we possibly would be a stable mid table championship club or even a yo-yo side?

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:16 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:I wonder if in hindsight we should have just stuck with Lee and let nature play it's course. Given him modest sums to bring in younger players and develop our own.
Daniel Braaten, anyone? That Wilhelmson boy?
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:19 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:I wonder if in hindsight we should have just stuck with Lee and let nature play it's course. Given him modest sums to bring in younger players and develop our own.
Daniel Braaten, anyone? That Wilhelmson boy?
Yeah. But he bought lots of players for a total of just a few million that year. He was trying to bolster an ageing squad. Also signed Bogdan.

Not saying he was good, just that the mentality of trying to stay up at all costs seems to have cost us more than perhaps relegation that season might.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:27 pm

throwawayboltonian wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:I wonder if in hindsight we should have just stuck with Lee and let nature play it's course. Given him modest sums to bring in younger players and develop our own. Not chase premiership survival with new managers and increasing wage bills but rather let Lee see if he could translate his coaching into something more tangible.

Sure we would have gone down and everyone, myself included, would have been fuming at the time but now we possibly would be a stable mid table championship club or even a yo-yo side?
Problem is you could arguably say that about most managers we've had since him. I've seen a few people on here wishing that we'd stuck with Megson because as negative as he was he tended to grind out just enough points. Although I see your point it's moot in my opinion.
The difference being that Megson spent lots. So by then we were already on the treadmill. Lee was probably the chance to not send the debt skyrocketing and becoming more self sufficient.

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Post by thebish » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:29 pm

who knows either way?? :conf:

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Post by boltonboris » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:32 pm

Hindsight from something almost a decade ago. Great
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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:12 pm

None of this would've happened if we'd given a contract to Alan Ball.
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Post by jonnycooper » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:51 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:None of this would've happened if we'd given a contract to Alan Ball.

And not let Peter Reid go to Everton for a paltry 60k.. :crazy:

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:09 pm

None of this would have happened if we hadn't been instrumental in forming the Football League! Who the fxck let Chelsea in? We shoulda stuck with the Lancashire FA.
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Post by Enoch » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:28 pm

Oh for some female relatives with dangly genitalia.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:33 pm

Enoch wrote:Oh for some female relatives with dangly genitalia.
How much you got? I can supply some 8)
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Post by StaffsTrotter » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:04 pm

jonnycooper wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:None of this would've happened if we'd given a contract to Alan Ball.

And not let Peter Reid go to Everton for a paltry 60k.. :crazy:
Just to show ca plus change.

Lady luck shakes her arse at us. Hot player property, lots of teams waving £s; not sure if it was just the press or Reidy himself (or both) who were pushing for move but resist sale; badly injured in an abandoned game, succession of subsequent injuries, spend fortune on medical costs; uncertain fitness /reduced offers; 60k offer accepted (wasnt his contract running down); turns out wasnt as badly injured as thought (effing medical team again) goes on to play for england, win cups etc etc

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