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Should we get rid of Owen Coyle?

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Re: Time to go

Post by Hoboh » Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:25 pm

BL3 wrote:
Hoboh wrote:Swansea Possession Bolton
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Just fcuk off Coyle!!

This man is killing this club now and doing more damage in a shorter time than Megson ever did!!! and that's coming from Megson's number one fan :shock:

Tuncany; if to use your words Coyle he don't improve us why sign him?
Ditto Kakuta
Bet you wished you'd spent Eagles and Mears transfer fees toward Wright Philips wages now :evil: (Tad unfair on Mears I know not having had a chance but this is a man who thinks Robbo is good!)
"Captain" Kevin Davies? An Italian Tank comander shows more leadership!

Now the real nasty bit;

You and your money grabbing in the case of Cahill has raped the next manager of funds to sort out this crap you will leave behind, yes he is a good prospect but £10-12 mill is a life line to a club like ours and I don't give a sh*t if anyone disagrees with that.
Mr Coyle a motivator who cannot motivate is as much use as a chocolate fire guard, so please just FCUK OFF!

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1. Coyle doesn't decide how much we should pay the players we sign.

2. Coyle doesn't get to decide whether to accept an offer for a player in the last year of his contract.

3. We were never offered £10-£12M for Cahill.

As for the rest of the shite you posted...
I don't post half as much crap as you do!!! If what you say is true then what the feck does Coyle do then? He sure as hell don't train or explain tactics or set up teams to play, you love him fine you want to watch chapionship football look for another club because if BWFC go down it will be the end for good we'll be bury or Rochdale level within 3 years and we've been there it hurts.

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Re: Time to go

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:26 pm

TKIZ! wrote:Don't think Coyle should go but he needs to stop being mates with the players. We also need a proper defensive coach and we need to work on our shape
That's not going to happen with Coyle in charge.

You can either keep it as it is or change it. There doesn't seem to be a third way.
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Re: Time to go

Post by Whookam » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:19 pm

BL3 wrote: No we haven't. we improved beyond all measure when he first took over. This season has been a total nightmare because of injuries to key players, losing the likes of Sturridge, a terrible set of opening fixtures and out of form players who proved last season that they are capable of better. Anyone who thinks it would have been any better with Megson in charge really does need to get a grip.
1) How do you explain the end of last season?

2) How many more dire performances to 'lesser' teams will it take for you to stop blaming the fixture computer?

3) Do you really think Holden and Lee would have changed what we've seen?

4) At what point will you be attributing some of the blame to Coyle?

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Re: Time to go

Post by jimbo_bwfc » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:21 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Just fcuk off Coyle!!

This man is killing this club now and doing more damage in a shorter time than Megson ever did!!! and that's coming from Megson's number one fan :shock:

Tuncany; if to use your words Coyle he don't improve us why sign him?
Ditto Kakuta
Bet you wished you'd spent Eagles and Mears transfer fees toward Wright Philips wages now :evil: (Tad unfair on Mears I know not having had a chance but this is a man who thinks Robbo is good!)
"Captain" Kevin Davies? An Italian Tank comander shows more leadership!

Now the real nasty bit;

You and your money grabbing in the case of Cahill has raped the next manager of funds to sort out this crap you will leave behind, yes he is a good prospect but £10-12 mill is a life line to a club like ours and I don't give a sh*t if anyone disagrees with that.
Mr Coyle a motivator who cannot motivate is as much use as a chocolate fire guard, so please just FCUK OFF!

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Just a tad dramatic, no?

He's not getting results but to say he's killing the club is ridiculous. And he's got pretty much a similar record as Megson having spent about a tenth as much.

Agree about Tuncay and Kakuta.

Kevin Davies and Paul Robinson didn't even play today, so why they're still the brunt of your anger I'm not sure. They were dropped. And their replacements were far shitter than they've been this season. So maybe that's why they've kept their place so long...

Coyle doesn't decide whether we accept an offer like that or not, we didn't recieve an offer like that anyway. Double-Moot.
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Re: Time to go

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:26 pm

Whookam wrote:3) Do you really think Holden and Lee would have changed what we've seen?
Don't get carried away, when trying to justify criticism.

There's plenty to criticise, but do you NOT think Lee & Holden would have changed something ? Really ?

I'm close to despairing over Coyle. It's gone beyond the fixtures and the injuries, but they HAVE been significant.
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Re: Time to go

Post by Beefheart » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:35 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Whookam wrote:3) Do you really think Holden and Lee would have changed what we've seen?
Don't get carried away, when trying to justify criticism.

There's plenty to criticise, but do you NOT think Lee & Holden would have changed something ? Really ?

I'm close to despairing over Coyle. It's gone beyond the fixtures and the injuries, but they HAVE been significant.
I think our two best midfielders, who could each arguably get into a Top 4 side, not being available is pretty significant.

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Re: Time to go

Post by Whookam » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:42 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Whookam wrote:3) Do you really think Holden and Lee would have changed what we've seen?
Don't get carried away, when trying to justify criticism.

There's plenty to criticise, but do you NOT think Lee & Holden would have changed something ? Really ?

I'm close to despairing over Coyle. It's gone beyond the fixtures and the injuries, but they HAVE been significant.
Not much to be honest. Neither play on the left hand side which is where we've been exploited time and time again. Neither would suddenly roll back the years on Jussi or SKD. Statistically Eagle's contribution to the team is the same as Lee's, I'll let that one sit there. I suppose you could make an argument for Holden but I doubt he could carry the midfield on his own. We'd still be short of goals.

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Re: Time to go

Post by wanderers_on_tour » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:47 pm

Hoboh wrote:
wanderers_on_tour wrote:
Hoboh wrote:Swansea Possession Bolton
69.3----------------30.7-
--------Total Passes-----
668---------------- 290


Just fcuk off Coyle!!

This man is killing this club now and doing more damage in a shorter time than Megson ever did!!! and that's coming from Megson's number one fan :shock:

Tuncany; if to use your words Coyle he don't improve us why sign him?
Ditto Kakuta
Bet you wished you'd spent Eagles and Mears transfer fees toward Wright Philips wages now :evil: (Tad unfair on Mears I know not having had a chance but this is a man who thinks Robbo is good!)
"Captain" Kevin Davies? An Italian Tank comander shows more leadership!

Now the real nasty bit;

You and your money grabbing in the case of Cahill has raped the next manager of funds to sort out this crap you will leave behind, yes he is a good prospect but £10-12 mill is a life line to a club like ours and I don't give a sh*t if anyone disagrees with that.
Mr Coyle a motivator who cannot motivate is as much use as a chocolate fire guard, so please just FCUK OFF!

TOMORROW
Jesus christ its hardly unheard of playing with 10 men away from home!
Tuncay, I agree with. Deserves a good run of starts to prove his worth, in the short and long term.
Kakuta, meh. More a Weiss/Rodrigo style character to have around the place. No chance, before the loan was agreed or now, that the player would be in a white shirt beyond this season.
SWP is merely a 30 year old 'has been' that shows glimpses of brilliance but too inconsitant. In fact having seen QPR 3 or 4 times this season he only stood out on his debut against Newcastle and for around half an hour against Chelsea last week. How does that justify anywhere near the high wages everyone knows he's on? Especially when Lee will be first choice if not this season than next defintely. Then we have a 31 year old on a big paycheck to sit on the bench of play a bit part role now and again. And sorry but Eagles isn't the problem! He's a good second choice winger (again behind Lee) and has done an ok job deputising in the position. He's a tad one dimensional but works hard and with any sort of attacking movement ahead of him, like Tuncay as you rightly suggested, can/and imo will turn out to be a decent signing.

Not even going to try comment on Cahill. IF and its a big IF a £10/12 million offer came in September for our Gary I have no doubt Owen would have bit their hand off. Fact is (from the manager himself and various other 'itk' sources, prove me wrong if you want bud) it didn't. If we'd sold him to Wenger for £6 mil the Coyle Out bangers would already be hanging from the North Stand.
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Wright Philips is much better the Eagles end of! if you think differently your at best confused, LCY can have done PETROVS SHIFT WHEN FIT.
Spurs bid ten the story goes. and when was the last time these itk sources were right?

Coyle has made 1 good signing, thats all Holden and 2 loan signings who were never ever going to stay past the deal.
Hmmm we'll see by the end of the season pal. At his best SWP was still a tad inconsistant for the big clubs, and for the money it isn't a big enough gamble. Like I originally said I think Eagles is a good signing but again i'm willing to just say 'we'll see'. Hope to be proven right, wouldn't be surprised if i'm proven wrong though. But for now I have faith! He's also 5 years younger, which helps in the long term (if we're still in the top flight).

Plus, when fit, Lee HAS to play on the right. Petrov/Eagles/Kakuta/Tuncay (although I see the last 2 preferably playing off the striker in a 4-4-1-1 rather than on the wing) And although i'm tempted to let sleeping dogs lie, Nixons hit rate was pretty spot on.

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Re: Time to go

Post by Peter Thompson » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:29 pm

Beefheart wrote: I think our two best midfielders, who could each arguably get into a Top 4 side, not being available is pretty significant.
FFS - what an absolute load of shite

As good as Holden is he's not good enough to get into any top 6 side never mind top 4, and as for CYL wasn't he in the side
that after Arsenal lost the last 6 games of last season.

I don't mind anyone trying to defend Coyle but that statement is utter bullshit....

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Post by officer_dibble » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:38 pm

Narr its not utter bullshit. he was a cracking player holden, hope he is the same.when hes back. the yards him and muamba covered last season masked over tactical deficiences with the 442. Didnt he average more tackles than any other midfielder?

he could get in anyones squad at his best imo. not sure about first xis mind.

Lee as well...class player, would benefit most teams in this league.

Notwithstanding any of that we knew about both injuries with plenty of time to.spare before transfer window end. Coyle and his team should have a.contingency for both but they haven't.

your allowed your opinion, just cos you dont agree with another doesnt make it shite...likely the truth falls between the two anyways.

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Re: Time to go

Post by davroduk » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:42 pm

Its a shame and I love the mans passion, but.....
When your stats are worse than Megsons then its time to do the honerable thing and go.
A legend on the field but a dissaster off it.
You gave it your best shot but it hasnt worked out, and if you really do love this club as you say you do then its time to step down.
Who takes over I really dont know, but the change has to be made now to give the new manager the time to sort things out and drag thid club away from the drop zone.
Sorry Owen but its time to go. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Re: Time to go

Post by DJBlu » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:42 pm

Peter Thompson in emotional reply shocker.

Yes Coyle needs to do some work or go but don't go attacking others because their opinions of our players don't match your over inflated pessemistic opinions.

You've made it clear you want Coyle out, however I can but point to when this rut began and who was plainly out injured.

We've been extremely unlucky with injuries and had both Holden and CYL been in the side results may have gone better. Then would they get in a top 4 side? We'll never now. I'm sure you would think they would be if we were towards the top of the table and sitting pretty.

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Re: Time to go

Post by CAPSLOCK » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:44 pm

I posted weeks back that Lee didn't play much post departure for the Asia Cup

Its not just them two missing, its the loss of Elmamder and Sturridge, plus the tactically naive Coyle (and his Burnley chums) and the non-selection of Muamba
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Re: Time to go

Post by Hoboh » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:45 pm

Sorry if I seem abit off with a few but whatever is wrong at BWFC it shows no sign of getting better and if it carries on it will get worse resulting in our best players wanting to leave.
This year we needed a bit of stability after the last few years of worry over the drop, we all felt Coyle would deliver, he hasn't and once players start thinking (a dangerous thing for footballers it seems) the only way is downwards. This is how Coyle will destroy the club along with the bratten types he seems to be finding value for Eddies money.
The fixture list should have given Coyle a chance to be brave and have a go, I seriously doubt there would have been more than a few grumbles, he didn't then he failed to deliver agaimst the teams most thought we should have had points from or at least competed with.
Sorry but the writing is on the wall for Owen Coyle Eddie will be sweating, rightly so. I think Coyle should go in the morning with his backroom staff and let us see if the players have any spine or bottle against Stoke, if he stays and we get walloped and Eddie don't act it will be his worst business descion ever.

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Post by officer_dibble » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:49 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:I posted weeks back that Lee didn't play much post departure for the Asia Cup

Its not just them two missing, its the loss of Elmamder and Sturridge, plus the tactically naive Coyle (and his Burnley chums) and the non-selection of Muamba
Aye, we played 5 across midfield and there were still big gaps today. lee or no lee, holden or no holden, that is unacceptable.

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Post by Peter Thompson » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:55 pm

officer_dibble wrote:Narr its not utter bullshit. he was a cracking player holden, hope he is the same.when hes back. the yards him and muamba covered last season masked over tactical deficiences with the 442. Didnt he average more tackles than any other midfielder?

he could get in anyones squad at his best imo. not sure about first xis mind.

Lee as well...class player, would benefit most teams in this league.

Notwithstanding any of that we knew about both injuries with plenty of time to.spare before transfer window end. Coyle and his team should have a.contingency for both but they haven't.

your allowed your opinion, just cos you dont agree with another doesnt make it shite...likely the truth falls between the two anyways.
I agree that Holden is a good player - but Holden & CYL getting into the Utd, City, Chelsea. L/Pool and either Arsenal or Spurs sides (I'm not counting Newcastle) do me a favour.

Holden's been a big loss I agree, but not replacing quality with quality (Sturridge, Elmander etc...) has been Coyle or Bolton's undoing (Gartside etc....) - we were not that good last season with the likes of Holden. CYL, Sturridge, Elmander in the side apart from maybe 6 - 7 games out of 38. This current side clearly lacks quality and its now mainly Coyle's team so he's no excuse.

Coyle talks a good game - but that's about it, he and his backroom staff are not good enough, end of....

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Re: Time to go

Post by mrpiccollo » Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:00 pm

ok watching the match on sky now first half observation

we look organised if somwhat disjointed going forward could use some flair and possibly work on holding onto possession


2snd half

bs red card both fouls werent yellows nvm a red between them

2 quick goals

dubiuous penaty

neves set in swansea attack with everyone

we have little or no outlet

we look doomed today

positives are i cant see this run of bad luck contiuing much longer we cant possibly lose vs stoke can we ?? :hang:
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Re: Time to go

Post by jaffka » Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:03 pm

am fecked off that we seem to be doomed, injuries and sending off's, maybe the tactics are off as well

what really gets me are that some inane who seem to be wanting to point score because of their support of the previouse manager

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Post by Hoboh » Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:07 pm

jaffka wrote:am fecked off that we seem to be doomed, injuries and sending off's, maybe the tactics are off as well

what really gets me are that some inane who seem to be wanting to point score because of their support of the previouse manager

You are not pointing at moi are you?

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Re: Time to go

Post by jaffka » Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:08 pm

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