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Re: Dawson

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:08 pm

I suspect DSB has nailed it, in that a short term loan (MAX 3 months) allows the player to be recalled by their parent club, but a so called "long term" window to window loan does not allow for that.

So West Brom probably did not want that longer term loan that gave them no recall option. And given that 3 months was the longest we could do.

It makes sense and ties with the dates.

As for De Ridder it was said at the time that Dougie had a different target he was still pursuing on loan for a wide berth and De Ridder was merely a "look see" in the meantime. Perhaps that target was Scott Sinclair?

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Re: Dawson

Post by SmokinFrazier » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:12 pm

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SmokinFrazier wrote:I don't understand why the loan deal ends when it does? Assuming other teams slip up and we end up in the play-offs, it'd be a massive oversight to have let Dawson go for those crucial games. Maybe it'll be extended if that does happen.
It's a three-month loan. We signed him at the end of January, three months before the end of April. Loans are either window to window (ie to January or June) or month to month up to a maximum of three months; seems West Brom agreed up top to let him come for the maximum three months. Compare our one-month deal with Southampton for De Ridder - extendable if anyone's bothered.
Ah, fair enough. I was thinking we could have had him until the start of the next transfer window, which would have made a three month deal odd, but thinking about it, I don't think you can have those longer loans midway through the season? I'm not too sure.
You can – Stoke lent Matthew Upson to Brighton for the rest of the term – so I suspect WBA didn't want us to.
Hm. Hopefully that decision doesn't cost us!

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Re: Dawson

Post by thebish » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:25 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:Hm. Hopefully that decision doesn't cost us!
:D that's a bit of a long-shot advance moan for someone who thinks our manager is a bit rubbish! That would involve him having managed us to a very unlikely playoff spot!!

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Re: Dawson

Post by Beefheart » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:30 pm

I suppose this might be the time to ask:

'Where's this Chelsea loanee we're owned from the Cahill deal?'

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Re: Dawson

Post by SmokinFrazier » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:33 pm

thebish wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:Hm. Hopefully that decision doesn't cost us!
:D that's a bit of a long-shot advance moan for someone who thinks our manager is a bit rubbish! That would involve him having managed us to a very unlikely playoff spot!!
:lol:

I think my complaints about Freedman were right at the time but I'm glad he's changed things up. When we were playing one up front, I argued we should be playing two attackers instead and I think that has worked out well for us. Now all we need is for him to listen to me again about the defensive line and we'll be sorted :grin:

Maybe I was premature with my criticism and to be fair to him, he has adjusted things and got us playing better. I'm far more optimistic about the last 10 games of the season than I have been at any other stage in the year. I also think, whether in the Championship or higher, next year should be a lot better than this year has been. If we somehow did manage to go up, the turnaround would be miraculous and it's a promising way to end a season.

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Re: Dawson

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:50 pm

Beefheart wrote:I suppose this might be the time to ask:

'Where's this Chelsea loanee we're owned from the Cahill deal?'
Fair question but I'd rather get someone good for six or 12 months next season. I can't see who they'd have loanable that we'd want to borrow, if that doesn't sound too harsh – one that isn't already out on work experience. (Lest ye wonder, Gael Kakuta is at Vitesse.)

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Re: Dawson

Post by boltonboris » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:19 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Beefheart wrote:I suppose this might be the time to ask:

'Where's this Chelsea loanee we're owned from the Cahill deal?'
Fair question but I'd rather get someone good for six or 12 months next season. I can't see who they'd have loanable that we'd want to borrow, if that doesn't sound too harsh – one that isn't already out on work experience. (Lest ye wonder, Gael Kakuta is at Vitesse.)
I'd have that Chalabah or whatever he's called next season. Not seen a great deal, granted but he's supposed to have been one of Watfords best players this season.
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Re: Dawson

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:48 am

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Beefheart wrote:I suppose this might be the time to ask: 'Where's this Chelsea loanee we're owned from the Cahill deal?'
Fair question but I'd rather get someone good for six or 12 months next season. I can't see who they'd have loanable that we'd want to borrow, if that doesn't sound too harsh – one that isn't already out on work experience. (Lest ye wonder, Gael Kakuta is at Vitesse.)
I'd have that Chalabah or whatever he's called next season. Not seen a great deal, granted but he's supposed to have been one of Watfords best players this season.
Nathaniel Chalobah, midfielder or defender. Aye, rated. Wouldn't mind Oriel Romeu either but I doubt he'd drop a division.

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Re: Dawson

Post by Athers » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:40 pm

Watched Dawson tonight to try see how he's always free in the box - he pushes the defender in advance of the ball being kicked - Unlikely to be given as a foul and by then he's already off and running, GOAL GENIUS
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Post by ChrisC » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:42 pm

Athers wrote:Watched Dawson tonight to try see how he's always free in the box - he pushes the defender in advance of the ball being kicked - Unlikely to be given as a foul and by then he's already off and running, GOAL GENIUS
Likes to limp into the box at the last minute as well. Class act on corners. Class act all round to be fair.

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Re: Dawson

Post by mrkint » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:43 pm

Bet on him to score tonight. The nice person.

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Re: Dawson

Post by Jez » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:58 am

Beefheart wrote:I suppose this might be the time to ask:

'Where's this Chelsea loanee we're owned from the Cahill deal?'
I bet we're next in line for Lukaku

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Re: Dawson

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:25 pm

Jez wrote:
Beefheart wrote:I suppose this might be the time to ask:

'Where's this Chelsea loanee we're owned from the Cahill deal?'
I bet we're next in line for Lukaku
Not in this division, surely.

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Re: Dawson

Post by Jez » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:46 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Jez wrote:
Beefheart wrote:I suppose this might be the time to ask:

'Where's this Chelsea loanee we're owned from the Cahill deal?'
I bet we're next in line for Lukaku
Not in this division, surely.
It was a bit tongue in cheek, I expect he'll be pushing for first team occasionally next season

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Re: Dawson

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:12 pm

I see Dawson didn't score v Blackburn,

Bubble burst ??
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Re: Dawson

Post by mrkint » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:46 pm

It's cos i bet on him to score.

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Re: Dawson

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:27 pm

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Re: Dawson

Post by BS3 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:06 am

Freedman's building castles in the sand. He should've borrowed a player we could actually buy, like Patrick Kisnorbo or Richard Stearman.

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Re: Dawson

Post by Annoyed Grunt » Tue May 07, 2013 7:20 pm

Looks like he's starting for West Brom tonight....

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Re: Dawson

Post by LeverEnd » Tue May 07, 2013 8:22 pm

Would it make me a bad and selfish person to want Dawson to have a stinker and then ring Dougie up in tears?
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