Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:25 pm

Mar wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:01 pm
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Sat Aug 10, 2024 12:43 pm
Mar wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 12:32 pm
Right back maybe an issue but we've got Matheson there for backup and CMG come second half of the season
Matheson is off on loan.

Why do you feel we've got an issue on the right, with both Tutu and Cogley there?
Gotta admit I hadn't considered Tutu when I wrote it. Figured the main thing was strength in depth and I'd seen Jones and CMG out.

Obviously JDC is the standout player but he was consistently put out without getting time to relax so there's and argument for mental strain rather than physical strain going on with that many games. Figured extra body would help with strength in depth.
CMG as right back? Really? :shock:

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Mar » Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:28 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:25 pm
Mar wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:01 pm
GhostoftheBok wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 12:43 pm
Mar wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 12:32 pm
Right back maybe an issue but we've got Matheson there for backup and CMG come second half of the season
Matheson is off on loan.

Why do you feel we've got an issue on the right, with both Tutu and Cogley there?
Gotta admit I hadn't considered Tutu when I wrote it. Figured the main thing was strength in depth and I'd seen Jones and CMG out.

Obviously JDC is the standout player but he was consistently put out without getting time to relax so there's and argument for mental strain rather than physical strain going on with that many games. Figured extra body would help with strength in depth.
CMG as right back? Really? :shock:
Just somewhere he's covered before after coming off the bench to replace JDC. Not exactly keen on it myself but it's an extra bit of rotation thats available for us.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:56 pm

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Just somewhere he's covered before after coming off the bench to replace JDC. Not exactly keen on it myself but it's an extra bit of rotation thats available for us.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by irie Cee Bee » Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:42 pm

As things stand now we may need another CB. Jones and Forrester out, Johnstone, Forino and Santos iffy injury wise leaving Toal and Iredale as our most reliable. Dacres Cogley is our makeshift CB when necessary.

We look short in an area of the field which now seems our weakest.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:37 pm

irie Cee Bee wrote:
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As things stand now we may need another CB. Jones and Forrester out, Johnstone, Forino and Santos iffy injury wise leaving Toal and Iredale as our most reliable. Dacres Cogley is our makeshift CB when necessary.

We look short in an area of the field which now seems our weakest.
With seven senior centre-backs (try saying that while sucking cider through a straw) under contract, I strongly doubt we'll get another on a permanent deal. And if it's a loan, it may be that we have to wait anyway – it will probably be a 'big club kid' so they will be keeping their options open, with 18 days left. That delay's not necessarily a bad thing, though, as it gives us more time to assess how likely Jones, Johnston, Forrester and for that matter Forino are to be fit for duty.

If we lack depth, Caleb Taylor would be a good shout again - as Ghost says, he's underage.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:39 pm

^Jones back in ten days or so apparently.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:43 pm

See? Clearing up already :D

Seriously though - Evatt says Forrester could be "10 to 12 weeks", with Lolos out for several weeks too. I'll do an update on the Dem Bones thread

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Post by Prufrock » Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:12 pm

I think we can hang on in there, we've already got too many and they should all be fit bar Forrester in a week and a half. The slightly mad bench at the weekend made it look worse than it is, IMO. Hopefully George and Forino come through tomorrow unscathed.
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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:19 pm

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Post by sonicthewhite » Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:49 pm

It's funny how some of our fanbase embarass themselves by what player constitutes automatic inclusion no matter their ability, desire or what Evatt thinks. Last season was a good point when the brain dead section on the BN continually banged on about Declan John being the best LWB at the club and his ommission was a travesty and if he'd played every game we'd have stormed the league. A player that good that his loan club, Salford, didn't play him play him all the time and then released him after we released him. He's so good he's still without a club but I'm sure Rooney could sign him to replace Ogbeta :lol:
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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by sonicthewhite » Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:50 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:37 pm
irie Cee Bee wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:42 pm
As things stand now we may need another CB. Jones and Forrester out, Johnstone, Forino and Santos iffy injury wise leaving Toal and Iredale as our most reliable. Dacres Cogley is our makeshift CB when necessary.

We look short in an area of the field which now seems our weakest.
With seven senior centre-backs (try saying that while sucking cider through a straw) under contract, I strongly doubt we'll get another on a permanent deal. And if it's a loan, it may be that we have to wait anyway – it will probably be a 'big club kid' so they will be keeping their options open, with 18 days left. That delay's not necessarily a bad thing, though, as it gives us more time to assess how likely Jones, Johnston, Forrester and for that matter Forino are to be fit for duty.

If we lack depth, Caleb Taylor would be a good shout again - as Ghost says, he's underage.
I honestly think Caleb would be amenable for a return here and would'nt fill the cap. We certainly could do well by him as he's familiar with the set-up here.
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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:20 am

Mar wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:28 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:25 pm
Mar wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:01 pm
GhostoftheBok wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 12:43 pm
Mar wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 12:32 pm
Right back maybe an issue but we've got Matheson there for backup and CMG come second half of the season
Matheson is off on loan.

Why do you feel we've got an issue on the right, with both Tutu and Cogley there?
Gotta admit I hadn't considered Tutu when I wrote it. Figured the main thing was strength in depth and I'd seen Jones and CMG out.

Obviously JDC is the standout player but he was consistently put out without getting time to relax so there's and argument for mental strain rather than physical strain going on with that many games. Figured extra body would help with strength in depth.
CMG as right back? Really? :shock:
Just somewhere he's covered before after coming off the bench to replace JDC. Not exactly keen on it myself but it's an extra bit of rotation thats available for us.

No stranger than Pedersen at LB
I see the parallel and sure, it might work. But he's coming back from a long term injury too and there's a larger chunk of running to do than some positions. Why would we think he's a better pick as emergency cover than any other player? Feels a bit random...

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Post by Mar » Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:05 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:20 am
Mar wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:28 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:25 pm
Mar wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:01 pm
GhostoftheBok wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 12:43 pm
Mar wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2024 12:32 pm
Right back maybe an issue but we've got Matheson there for backup and CMG come second half of the season
Matheson is off on loan.

Why do you feel we've got an issue on the right, with both Tutu and Cogley there?
Gotta admit I hadn't considered Tutu when I wrote it. Figured the main thing was strength in depth and I'd seen Jones and CMG out.

Obviously JDC is the standout player but he was consistently put out without getting time to relax so there's and argument for mental strain rather than physical strain going on with that many games. Figured extra body would help with strength in depth.
CMG as right back? Really? :shock:
Just somewhere he's covered before after coming off the bench to replace JDC. Not exactly keen on it myself but it's an extra bit of rotation thats available for us.

No stranger than Pedersen at LB
I see the parallel and sure, it might work. But he's coming back from a long term injury too and there's a larger chunk of running to do than some positions. Why would we think he's a better pick as emergency cover than any other player? Feels a bit random...
He seems a pacey player with the ability to take people on and cross the ball. Someone who can unlock defences. I don't see the same from Jones for instance who seems a steadier influence defensively.

It's not about whether they suit it over others it's about whether they're capable coverage when injuries start to hit and we've got a third game in 7 days.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:17 pm

We shouldn't be making any assumptions about Carlos this season.

He may well be back playing by the New Year, but it's still potentially a long road from there to being himself again.

A ruptured Achilles is really tough on a dribbler.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:12 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
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We shouldn't be making any assumptions about Carlos this season.

He may well be back playing by the New Year, but it's still potentially a long road from there to being himself again.

A ruptured Achilles is really tough on a dribbler.
Sorta where I was at - not sure you'd necessarily want him doing the huge running of a WB as a "welcome back" and I suspect if one of attacking or defending would fall by the wayside, it'd be the latter, not that we seem overly bothered by leaking goals...

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Post by officer_dibble » Thu Aug 15, 2024 6:00 pm

Where was that volley he scored last season? Northampton? fecking ace. If we can get him on the bench in the new year to bring on for some of that he’ll do for me.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 15, 2024 7:34 pm

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Where was that volley he scored last season? Northampton? fecking ace. If we can get him on the bench in the new year to bring on for some of that he’ll do for me.
Cambridge I think you mean? Northampton I think he played as a ersatz wingback second half..

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Cambridge - great goal - assist by Sheehan so it presumably wasn't a big game

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Northampton he also scored, with his bonce as we came back from behind with 10 men

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Post by Prufrock » Thu Aug 15, 2024 7:45 pm

Was a real shame as he'd started to look the business and would suit this shape. Hopefully he comes back in good nick from a horror injury.
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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Mar » Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:15 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:17 pm
We shouldn't be making any assumptions about Carlos this season.

He may well be back playing by the New Year, but it's still potentially a long road from there to being himself again.

A ruptured Achilles is really tough on a dribbler.
All perfectly good points. Colour me convinced.

I was pretty much thinking about what we'd signed and why we'd signed him rather than the player he's likely to be after the injury and the sort of work we have to put in to help him back to his best.

If CMG isn't likely to be back, Matheson is going on loan and Jones can't compete pace wise on the wing like we get with Tutu and JDC then maybe we'll need another option to keep our momentum.

I was envisaging CMG as that option but it doesn't make sense to have him coming back into that role. I would expect Jones to be a covering player in that instance until Tutu or JDC is available. Not to knock Jones but I don't see him as the wide man beating the player but more the sort that suits the cut back and cross type.

Maybe we need a third option. Someone to be the option on the bench when the injuries cause the main man to be out.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:26 pm

I don't think you're getting much better than out wingback options at this level.

Jones and Iredale would start as wingbacks for a lot of League One teams. Perhaps not in our style of play, but still.

Having Tutu/Cogley/Jones and Schon/Williams/Iredale has got to be enough. If not, we've just signed the wrong players.

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