If carlsberg did transfer threads.....This would be it!

[plymouth wanderer]

It's awesome. Hall is shit.shouod be thanking me?

Replacement for Hall?

How about a dollop of shit?

If Lennon does't rate him then that's good enough for me! I know it's slow going at the minute but most wanted a clear out and that's what were getting! I happen to believe Trotter will be one of the one's to leave (loan/perm)......homest

Strikers ain't gonna happen. Id love Alf back but it's not gonna happen. I think we are pretty covered there anyhow. We need full backs and wingers.

Have a little faith

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

It's awesome. Hall is shit.shouod be thanking me?

Replacement for Hall?

How about a dollop of shit?

If Lennon does't rate him then that's good enough for me! I know it's slow going at the minute but most wanted a clear out and that's what were getting! I happen to believe Trotter will be one of the one's to leave (loan/perm)......homest

Strikers ain't gonna happen. Id love Alf back but it's not gonna happen. I think we are pretty covered there anyhow. We need full backs and wingers.

Have a little faith

How are we to trust you when you can't even bring yourself to say it properly?

[thebish]

What is the current in/out situation? Who's gone and who's arrived since the final game of last season? I've been on the road for the best part of the last 7 weeks often without WiFi so I have rather lost track....

[plymouth wanderer]

It's awesome. Hall is shit.shouod be thanking me?

Replacement for Hall?

How about a dollop of shit?

If Lennon does't rate him then that's good enough for me! I know it's slow going at the minute but most wanted a clear out and that's what were getting! I happen to believe Trotter will be one of the one's to leave (loan/perm)......homest

Strikers ain't gonna happen. Id love Alf back but it's not gonna happen. I think we are pretty covered there anyhow. We need full backs and wingers.

Have a little faith

How are we to trust you when you can't even bring yourself to say it properly?

Damn phone, gotta get a new one!

[Little Green Man]

This seems to be up to date:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%8 ... #Transfers

Additionally Stephen Dobbie, Lawrie Wilson, George Newell and a few lads from Wee Gordon Strachan's finishing school have been given trials. Emile Heskey seems to be stuck in some sort of non-contract limbo but is training and playing.

The first team squad have lost all of their pre-season games so far. The callow youths have won or drawn all of theirs.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

It's awesome. Hall is shit.shouod be thanking me?

Replacement for Hall?

How about a dollop of shit?

If Lennon does't rate him then that's good enough for me! I know it's slow going at the minute but most wanted a clear out and that's what were getting! I happen to believe Trotter will be one of the one's to leave (loan/perm)......homest

Strikers ain't gonna happen. Id love Alf back but it's not gonna happen. I think we are pretty covered there anyhow. We need full backs and wingers.

Have a little faith

How are we to trust you when you can't even bring yourself to say it properly?

Damn phone, gotta get a new one!

Just borrow Bobo's

[bobo the clown]

^^

[Jugs]

I'd have preferred Hall to stay, unless Lennon's got some incoming wingers lined up.

As it is, Hall is no worse than Walker (he's perhaps better), and then Feeney and Clayton are our only remaining wingers. And Feeney isn't exactly fantastic ...

[bobo the clown]

I'd have preferred Hall to stay, unless Lennon's got some incoming wingers lined up.

As it is, Hall is no worse than Walker (he's perhaps better), and then Feeney and Clayton are our only remaining wingers. And Feeney isn't exactly fantastic ...

I DO hope he has at least one lined up.

I could be proven wrong but, in honesty, I've seen nothing from Walker to make me feel he's our next after Vela & Clough to come through.

[Jugs]

When he came on at home to Leeds for a last minute cameo, he looked good (though I thought it was Clough at the time).

Since then, he's looked nothing more than okay. Needs to be more composed in possession and think about who he's passing to. Maybe he's got potential, but I'm a bit unconvinced at the moment.

[Nicko58]

I'd have preferred Hall to stay, unless Lennon's got some incoming wingers lined up.

As it is, Hall is no worse than Walker (he's perhaps better), and then Feeney and Clayton are our only remaining wingers. And Feeney isn't exactly fantastic ...

I DO hope he has at least one lined up.

I could be proven wrong but, in honesty, I've seen nothing from Walker to make me feel he's our next after Vela & Clough to come through.

Walker was promoted to the first team before he was ready for it due to our rotten luck with injuries last season, and was often played in a position that he was unfamiliar with to boot. However, he has a dream of a left peg and we have no one else who can put a better ball into the box at the minute. He perhaps shouldn't be first choice, but he deserves a few games to show what he can do as a left winger rather than a left wing-back in my opinion.

[danardif1]

He does seem to have quite a lot of natural talent does Walker, even watching the 'highlights' of the Morecambe match he was key to most of our best play in that match and he really does have a good left foot on him, but he's so much more raw a player than either Vela or Clough and it does show. He's done well for the circumstances in which he came into the team and certainly hasn't embarrassed himself in any real way, and you would hope that perhaps over the next season he'll get more chances to play in the first team and carry on developing. Lennon does seem to like him which I guess is something...

I think Hall will always been one of those players who gives the impression that they can achieve more but never do... He reminds me of Sordell a bit in that he seems to think that he's already made it if he scores a couple of goals in a game... you kind of have to do that consistently. His hattrick for MK last season was in a game where they also put another 3 past Leyton Orient so it was hardly a case of him taking the game by storm.

[Vertigo]

I'd have preferred Hall to stay, unless Lennon's got some incoming wingers lined up.

As it is, Hall is no worse than Walker (he's perhaps better), and then Feeney and Clayton are our only remaining wingers. And Feeney isn't exactly fantastic ...

Hall is talented, but he's been here for a long time, and in that time has shown he has a lack of end product, with poor decision making etc. How much longer would he need to be here before he came good? I think sending him away is the right move. Wouldn't have been fussed if it was permanent (I assume there is a clause in there anyway).

[Prufrock]

Walker has shown plenty for me. It's worth remembering that he's 19 and played 11 senior games. He makes a lot of mistakes, but he's got a good touch, is a strong runner and has a dream of a left foot. Clearly not ready to be playing week in week out for us, but I don't think he looks any less promising than Vela did at that age, who played a couple of games, showed a nice touch but still looked like a promising kid rather than a ready first team starter. It's probably not helped Walker that he's come through at the same time as Clough who at 19 looked like he's been playing senior football for 5 years.

Hall on the other hand has never shown anything for me other than being a bit nippy and certainly not being short of the confidence that he's good enough. He's two years older than Walker and had plenty opportunities to show he's learning a) how to play the game (yet witness Paderborn's first goal where his first touch takes him into our defensive third and deeper than the full-back, yet he tries to turn out of trouble, loses it and it leads to their penalty - awful) and b) to start coming up with an end product beyond spanking free kicks he's demanded to take 8 feet over the bar.

Ideally we'd have a couple of wingers lined up and both Walker and Hall could go out on loan, but I'm happier with Walker sticking around than Hall if we need one of them.

[Worthy4England]

Question: What do we think is the age when we start to say someone isn't likely to improve sufficiently? We keep talking about our ressies, like they're still in the U14's.

I know it'll be different for individuals, but even with that, there is probably a cut-off where you say, "Sorry, son."

[Prufrock]

I'm not sure you can stick a one-sixe-fits-all age on it. Provided they look good enough technically it seems different players take different lengths of time to get the mentality to turn talent into application. Someone like Clough or Kevin Nolan walks straight into the team at 19 like they belong. Someone like Boggers (albeit more exposed in nets) takes until he's 25 until he looked like he belonged. Vela is somewhere in between in needing a couple of loan spells before finally getting in at 20/21.

I wouldn't think Hall will get too many more chances if he doesn't do well at MK Dons.

[malcd1]

According to Nxon, Bolton are after Lee Camp from Bournemouth, as a back-up to Ben Amos. Loan or possible free transfer.

[bobo the clown]

According to Nxon, Bolton are after Lee Camp from Bournemouth, as a back-up to Ben Amos. Loan or possible free transfer.

Blimey ... we were linked with him 12 years ago.

Where's Veloso when you need him ?

[bobo the clown]

Walker has shown plenty for me. It's worth remembering that he's 19 and played 11 senior games.

He makes a lot of mistakes, but he's got a good touch, is a strong runner and has a dream of a left foot.

He may well turn out a good player but I don't get that instinct.

How many times have you seen him live to form such a detailed opinion Pru ?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

21 is effectively the cutoff now, in that the "Development" (reserve) sides have an age limit. You can have (I think) three overage outfielders per matchday squad but from that moment on you're always an exception. (It's not when you actually turn 21 - there's a cutoff date per season, which I haven't got time to find at the moment.)