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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:53 pm

jaffka wrote:
officer_dibble wrote:just watching the football league show...sure i will get shot down for this but wish we had gone for jason roberts when he fell out with rovers. Goalscorer but a bit more mobile than klas. Most importantly - ready to play now!
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he got shipped out of the dingles because he could not hit a barn door

I am aware of how prolific is he with Reading in the Championship
He got shipped out of rovers due to his contract situation. They werent picking him because it would cost them money(cant remember full details but I remember him talking about it before he left) Could have got Vaz Te for 500 000. He looks a prospect!

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by officer_dibble » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:54 pm

i reckon the hardest player in the northern premier could take the championships finest :D

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by jaffka » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:55 pm

Ianmooreslovechild wrote:
jaffka wrote:
officer_dibble wrote:just watching the football league show...sure i will get shot down for this but wish we had gone for jason roberts when he fell out with rovers. Goalscorer but a bit more mobile than klas. Most importantly - ready to play now!
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he got shipped out of the dingles because he could not hit a barn door

I am aware of how prolific is he with Reading in the Championship
He got shipped out of rovers due to his contract situation. They werent picking him because it would cost them money(cant remember full details but I remember him talking about it before he left) Could have got Vaz Te for 500 000. He looks a prospect!
and also being w%%k

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by jaffka » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:58 pm

Have we fallen this far from the European days, where some fans are mastering over Jason feckin Roberts?

Even the deluded ginger one baulked at paying a transfer fee for him when he was not ancient.

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by P.O.S. » Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:01 am

jaffka wrote:Have we fallen this far from the European days, where some fans are mastering over Jason feckin Roberts?

Even the deluded ginger one baulked at paying a transfer fee for him when he was not ancient.

I remember being well annoyed when we failed to go in for James Harper from Reading. Megson's judgement proved to be correct about him too he's totally dropped off the radar!

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:13 am

jaffka wrote:Have we fallen this far from the European days, where some fans are mastering over Jason feckin Roberts?

Even the deluded ginger one baulked at paying a transfer fee for him when he was not ancient.
Nah not really,He's a good bloke and done well at Reading but heisnt Prem class.Vaz Te likewise,wont get half as much space in the top division and when the going gets tough he will disappear.That said,given in Jan we knew we needed a goalscorer and supposedly signed one it's a tad annoying that said goalscorer cant get a sniff when the strikers being picked ahead of him cant score goals

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by Peter Thompson » Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:45 pm

Yet again not used when we needed pace up front, instead of the constant 'hoofball' that Coyle resorts to whenever K Davies is allowed to stroll around the pitch doing absolutely nothing.

We will probably never know but Sordell may just have scored a few goals to keep us up - I could understand it if the other strikers could actually score goals, but given that N'Gog & KD rarely look like scoring its criminal that Sordell hasn't been given a chance.

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:48 pm

But N'Gog offers this "pace up front" that you say we need :conf: I think, radical as it sounds, that we need goals up front. Hmmmmmmmm.
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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:49 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:But N'Gog offers this "pace up front" that you say we need :conf: I think, radical as it sounds, that we need goals up front. Hmmmmmmmm.
Perhaps we need both?

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by Peter Thompson » Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:58 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:But N'Gog offers this "pace up front" that you say we need :conf: I think, radical as it sounds, that we need goals up front. Hmmmmmmmm.
N'Gog does have some pace (lets be honest he's like Usain Bolt compared to KD & Klasnic), but he has absolutely no composure on the ball or in front of goal -the reports about Sordell when Coyle bought him, was that he was very pacey and could strike the ball cleanly. I'm actually surprised on the very few occasions when N'Gog gets in good positions that he even manages to get the ball from under his feet.

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:00 pm

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Bruce Rioja wrote:But N'Gog offers this "pace up front" that you say we need :conf: I think, radical as it sounds, that we need goals up front. Hmmmmmmmm.
Perhaps we need both?
My point exactly, fella. PT was moaning that Coyle didn't bring Sordell on when we needed pace up front, mine being that we already had it. However, our leading scorer wasn't on the field but a guy that's no longer up to playing at this level was. If Sordell was to come on then I'd like to think that Coyle felt confident enough in the lad's ability to score goals, and absolutely feck all to do with any vestige of his 'pace'.
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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:01 pm

Sordell never budged from his seat all match. He never looked like he expected a call. He clearly knew he wasn't going to get on the pitch.

20m of him MAY have made a difference, or shown us why it wouldn't & so had us all shut the fck up.
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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by officer_dibble » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:20 pm

Twice? in the second half one player broke (ngog once, eagles perhaps?) and we couldn't get another man up quick enough.

Ngogs complete lack of confidence in shooting is a joke though!

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by wanderers_on_tour » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:23 pm

Seriously, whats the worst that can happen?

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by Whookam » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:26 pm

It strikes me that Sordell may have been a spur of the moment buy, basically Colye rushed in when he found out Cardiff were interested. Upon seeing him in training he sees that the lad is not up to it. The big question is if he's not up to it now is there anything to suggest he'll be up to it next season, whatever division we're in, when he's put up front with Ngog?

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by wanderers_on_tour » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:58 pm

Whookam wrote:It strikes me that Sordell may have been a spur of the moment buy, basically Colye rushed in when he found out Cardiff were interested. Upon seeing him in training he sees that the lad is not up to it. The big question is if he's not up to it now is there anything to suggest he'll be up to it next season, whatever division we're in, when he's put up front with Ngog?
So why not give him half an hour? I understand it's getting a little late in the season now but there's plenty of times we've been down and out with half an hour gone. What does bringing on Kevin Davies for the last hour achieve that bringing Sordell on wouldn't? I rate N'Gog but he isn't a goal threat and is too similar to SKD to work as an effective forward 2, neither is capable of making those decisive runs into the penalty area or taking a gamble at the far post. Even if Sordell was actually shite (which his pedigree at England under 21 somewhat disproves) he may at least be a willing runner and a right place, right time sort of player.

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by CAPSLOCK » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:59 pm

Half of what we got for Gary Cahill sat rotting on the bench

Apparently, we have no money to spend - not sure that stacks up when we can afford to do that

Well, we can't afford to do, but Coyles pissed it away anyway

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by Tombwfc » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:20 pm

I don't think the gulf between the Premier League and the Championship is even that big. All three of the promoted sides look set to stay up, and generally most strikers who play well in the Championship seem capable at a higher level (unless you're Jay Bothroyd).

If he's not good enough at all to be even worth a chance in a side which doesn't score goals now (one league goal apiece for N'Gog, Klasnic and Davies in 2012 IIRC), then he's surely not going to be good enough to spearhead any promotion push next season.

It really is close to unforgiveable that when a team is in our position (both financially and in the table) we waste the little money we have on a player who can't influence things on the pitch.

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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:30 pm

When I put SSN on they were talking about the game and Jeff/pundit both seemed baffled why we'd bought someone for £4M to not play him.

To be fair though, there's starting to be a long line of promising players we've had who've not had a chance.
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Re: Marvin Sordell

Post by officer_dibble » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:05 pm

Its bizzare...ngogs a full back i reckon
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