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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Bijou Bob » Mon May 16, 2016 9:56 am

I fail to see the logic in a club with financial difficulties paying 2 salaries rather than just one. I can't imagine Reid or Nolan would be cheap.

If I was a conspiracy theorist, I might be starting to believe that we have an agreement with someone on gardening leave, whom we can't yet name.Who's on gardening leave then? De Matteo still? Half of Leeds' ex bosses?
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by thebish » Mon May 16, 2016 9:59 am

Bijou Bob wrote:I fail to see the logic in a club with financial difficulties paying 2 salaries rather than just one. I can't imagine Reid or Nolan would be cheap.

ditto... sign the right manager - let him decide who he wants as a sounding-board/deputy - if he wants one...

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 16, 2016 10:53 am

Bijou Bob wrote:If I was a conspiracy theorist, I might be starting to believe that we have an agreement with someone on gardening leave, whom we can't yet name.Who's on gardening leave then? De Matteo still? Half of Leeds' ex bosses?
...or someone whose team is still involved in a campaign.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by thebish » Mon May 16, 2016 10:57 am

in the unlikely event that Giggsy had been lined up... and IF ManU saw that as a stepping stone to his eventually taking the reigns at ManU - then presumably it would be in ManUs interests to loan us tons of emerging ManU yoof talent so that they giot used to working wih Giggsy and he got to assess their strengths and weaknesses - all for free... hence our preparedness to let threlkeld and co. go... it all makes sense (and he wouldn't need a budget if he has access to the ManU nursery whenever he wanted) :wink:

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Hoboh » Mon May 16, 2016 10:59 am

Sounds to me they are looking for a 'yes man', Deano wanting to stick his oar in and if Anderson does as well, we are doomed!

"It's our money, our risk, of course we are right to stick our oar in".

Won't work.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by thebish » Mon May 16, 2016 11:13 am

Giggs to Bolton - the compelling evidence..

1) 2014 - Giggs given honorary doctorate from University of Bolton.
2) 2015 - Giggs laced up his boots to unveil a new teens-only fitness and dance studio that will provide a new home for the Bolton Wanderers Cheerleaders.

err...

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 16, 2016 11:21 am

Why the hell would we want Ryan Giggs? He's an assistant at an underperforming club.

I'd rather have Peter Reid than Ryan Giggs.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 16, 2016 11:46 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:Why the hell would we want Ryan Giggs? He's an assistant at an underperforming club.
He sure fails my ticklist. Although I suppose he might "inspire" a reaction in the fans...

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by thebish » Mon May 16, 2016 12:30 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Why the hell would we want Ryan Giggs? He's an assistant at an underperforming club.

I'd rather have Peter Reid than Ryan Giggs.

i don't want either - but would rather have giggs than reid!

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 16, 2016 1:45 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Why the hell would we want Ryan Giggs? He's an assistant at an underperforming club.

I'd rather have Peter Reid than Ryan Giggs.

i don't want either - but would rather have giggs than reid!
Why? Reid at least has been a manager and has experience.

I don't want Reid at all, but anyone with some experience is better than just plucking out a random player from somewhere and asking them to have a go. I've never seen anything in Giggs beyond a player, he comes across as dull, uninspiring and generally doesn't seem to me to have the intelligence and general aptitude required. Perhaps he does, but why gamble on him over literally hundreds and hundreds of players who we could just "take a chance on".

For me, anyone with experience is miles and miles ahead of those without.

I'd go as far as to say I think Nolan would be a better bet than Giggs. He managed an under 11s side or something....

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by thebish » Mon May 16, 2016 1:49 pm

i just (maybe unfairly) think that Reid has been tried and not really delivered... Giggs hasn't - but would have access to resources (players) - you'd imagine - and might turn out OK...

if picking between the two I'd rather go for the one the might turn out OK to the one who I am fairly sure would be a disaster...

but - don't want any of them - the fact that I speculated they might look at Giggs is merely cos it has been rumoured - not an indication that I am campaigning for his candidature. (or - in short - calm down!) 8)

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 16, 2016 1:51 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote: Reid at least has been a manager and has experience.
And has proven to be an unmitigated disaster. :)
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 16, 2016 1:57 pm

Anyone who has managed is likely to have failed at some point. I don't want Reid, but I sure as hell don't want a rookie.

For all the fanfare Coyle received the truth is that before he arrived here he'd had little real test in his career. And here when things got difficult we found out, to our cost, what he was about.

Freedman similarly had one solo managerial experience, we were like the play-test for his career. And again as it turns out we weren't at the right point for someone finding their feet.

Lennon again was, really unproven under taxing circumstances. He won by default at Celtic. Like Coyle, for all the platitudes, when push came to shove we once again found out at our expense that he didn't really have much clue.

I think Reid is the absolute scraping of a terrible rat-infested barrel right now. There are loads of better choices. But for me we just can't randomly pick out someone who hasn't been roadtested and hope for the best. Been there, done that, seen the relegations.

I don't mind someone who's failed a bit, at least if they are the right sort, they will have lessons in the bank to draw on.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon May 16, 2016 1:57 pm

1st question to ask a potential manager...

You're 1-1 in a must win game. Do you a) put Heskey on to help the defence out, or b) stick anyone else on and try and win the game?

Peter Reid has already failed that one according to Jiminho.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 16, 2016 2:01 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:1st question to ask a potential manager...

You're 1-1 in a must win game. Do you a) put Heskey on to help the defence out, or b) stick anyone else on and try and win the game?

Peter Reid has already failed that one according to Jiminho.
In fairness that wasn't a must win game....it was a "we're fecked whatever" game.

Still a bobbins decision and a good reason why Reid is a bad idea. He's old school. Probably doesn't really believe in the younger players and will probably if he gets a chance try to sign some "good old dependable lads" in the wrong positions who will block the development of the youngsters. We do need to add experience in, but in a careful way that builds on the kids not just to keep them out.

In addition as Bruce says, his style of tea-cup throwing management is ineffective with the Pratley's of this world who shrug their shoulders and go home to their multi-million pound lifestyles each day.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Tombwfc » Mon May 16, 2016 2:17 pm

Was it reported on here the tidbit I read in the BN the other day - that Chris Powell was offered an interview and declined.

Which if true, that's Powell (last seen sacked at Huddersfield with a 26.3% win rate) and Chris Wilder (never managed above League Two, went on to accept a job with 11th placed finishers Sheffield United) who've turned us down so far.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon May 16, 2016 4:49 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:1st question to ask a potential manager...

You're 1-1 in a must win game. Do you a) put Heskey on to help the defence out, or b) stick anyone else on and try and win the game?

Peter Reid has already failed that one according to Jiminho.
In fairness that wasn't a must win game....it was a "we're fecked whatever" game.

Still a bobbins decision and a good reason why Reid is a bad idea. He's old school. Probably doesn't really believe in the younger players and will probably if he gets a chance try to sign some "good old dependable lads" in the wrong positions who will block the development of the youngsters. We do need to add experience in, but in a careful way that builds on the kids not just to keep them out.

In addition as Bruce says, his style of tea-cup throwing management is ineffective with the Pratley's of this world who shrug their shoulders and go home to their multi-million pound lifestyles each day.
I thought we could still mathematically stay up at that point? Not that it matters, we were never going to do it, but you at least try.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Mon May 16, 2016 5:31 pm

Not arsed about who gets us up or why, using whatever philosophy or the average age of the team. Just get us up. We can worry about all that when we're back in the Championship.
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by enrdentw » Mon May 16, 2016 7:57 pm

OK... Just going to put it out there... Paolo di Canio.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by TonyDomingos » Mon May 16, 2016 8:00 pm

enrdentw wrote:OK... Just going to put it out there... Paolo di Canio.

Free. No nonsense. A winner. Personally, I think it's just what the club needs. I think we could a lot worse.
And I think we couldn't do any worse than appoint a facist sympathiser. I'd stop supporting if we appointed di Canio.
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