Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:08 pm

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I can’t speak for Insano, but I think we’d all agree that if someone like Vic were to go then we’d look to sign a replacement.
Oh, yeah. Sorry, that was me phrasing the question poorly.

I meant if any of the ones we've made available went, but you're spot on.
I assume we don't have a definitive list, but we can work on probabilities based on minutes played.
Nlundulu: 0 (not even on bench since opening day)
Coleman: 0 (on bench in both cup games)
Iredale: 71 (not even on bench since opening day)
Williams? Played the 90 in the first cup game, not in squad since
Matheson: 0 (on bench last night for first time)

I make it we have 24 overage outfielders inc Matheson (25 including Conor Carty). If we shooed away the 5 listed above we'd be 2 under the limit, even including CMG (and to a lesser extent Forrester) who we might not see for a while yet.

So while I agree we may not be desperately chasing targets, I still think we could yet see incomings if (1) there's a minor exodus or (2) the right 'targets' suddenly become available. And, as the Gun rightly says, if we did lose a regular, that would leave a hole we'd want to plug.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:10 pm

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Are we assuming that’s Iredale and Dan?

I’d say it’s very possible we’d replace neither, but more likely we’d look to bring someone in if we move Jack on.
Those are the players least likely to get minutes, you'd think - along with Coleman, obviously.

I suppose Williams is possible, for reasons mentioned earlier.

Even Jones could be, given that it could be the case that both Toal and Forino are ahead of him now.
I've said before (but it's a whle ago, so bear with the repetition) that I suspect Jones would not be rushed out of the door for a few reasons. Vice captain; unlikely to rock the boat if he's out of the XI or even 18; flexible sub covering positions.

If we lose Iredale I'd be somewhat worried that our only left-footed defender is a lad fresh back from his latest injury.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:18 pm

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Pretty sure we aren’t signing anyone else in this window.
Out of interest, do you think that's the case regardless of who goes?
I doubt anyone goes who Evatt feels the need to replace but if for example Charles went then I suspect we’d be seriously looking.

But I don’t think it’s that likely.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:22 pm

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And, as the Gun rightly says, if we did lose a regular, that would leave a hole we'd want to plug.
It's interesting.

We obviously want a 10, we've tried and missed. Maybe we try again in January, or maybe someone becomes available before the weekend. No idea.

What we do have is a lot of attacking players contracted beyond this season. So something will have to give somewhere if we're going to add.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:27 pm

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I've said before (but it's a whle ago, so bear with the repetition) that I suspect Jones would not be rushed out of the door for a few reasons. Vice captain; unlikely to rock the boat if he's out of the XI or even 18; flexible sub covering positions.

If we lose Iredale I'd be somewhat worried that our only left-footed defender is a lad fresh back from his latest injury.
I think I broadly agree with all that.

Jones and Iredale seem like important parts of Evatt's "flexibility" model and they're both good pros.

I would love Jack to come good. He's made himself a career the hard way and he's been so unlucky with that knee. He'd developed so much at Cambridge and was kicking on here.

He has improved since he came back, but Kelman showed that weakness again. He used to be a really strong one-on-one defender, but he doesn't seem to be able to shift his weight like he used to.

I really like him.

*edit* I should add, it could just have been a very bad game. Looked like more of the same issue, but I could have got that wrong.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:47 am

Talk from Evatt and Iles about hoping to "hold on" to our better players, eg Dion – but you'd assume Vic also in thoughts. There is of course a world in which we lose both, break the glass to activate Big Dan and realise he's gone on loan somewhere.

For the sake of converaation... If we were to need reinforcement, which forward(s) would you realistically like to see brought in? I see Joe Taylor still hasn't left Luton, despite links with Barnsley and Huddersfield. (The latter yesterday borrowed two from Wolves - midfielder Joe Hodge and centre-back Nigel Lonwijk, who was a sizeable part of Plymouth's promotion.)

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by The_Gun » Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:59 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:47 am
Talk from Evatt and Iles about hoping to "hold on" to our better players, eg Dion – but you'd assume Vic also in thoughts. There is of course a world in which we lose both, break the glass to activate Big Dan and realise he's gone on loan somewhere.

For the sake of converaation... If we were to need reinforcement, which forward(s) would you realistically like to see brought in? I see Joe Taylor still hasn't left Luton, despite links with Barnsley and Huddersfield. (The latter yesterday borrowed two from Wolves - midfielder Joe Hodge and centre-back Nigel Lonwijk, who was a sizeable part of Plymouth's promotion.)
Taylor looks to have been coming off the bench for Luton, so perhaps they’re inclined to keep him around this season?

I would also guess that Luton would want more for Taylor than we’d be able to get for either Vic or Dion.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:03 am

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Talk from Evatt and Iles about hoping to "hold on" to our better players, eg Dion – but you'd assume Vic also in thoughts. There is of course a world in which we lose both, break the glass to activate Big Dan and realise he's gone on loan somewhere.

For the sake of converaation... If we were to need reinforcement, which forward(s) would you realistically like to see brought in? I see Joe Taylor still hasn't left Luton, despite links with Barnsley and Huddersfield. (The latter yesterday borrowed two from Wolves - midfielder Joe Hodge and centre-back Nigel Lonwijk, who was a sizeable part of Plymouth's promotion.)
Saw somewhere that McAtee or Taylor was the choice for Luton so wouldn’t be surprised if Taylor stays there.

I will be surprised if much happens - bar letting Iredale or Dan or A another fringe player go on loan.

I think the club know that if they sell Charles now they are taking a massive risk. Replace Dion like for like with 24 hours…we all know where that ends up. We’ve seen it enough times. Vic might be more interesting if big money came in for him as in the current system he looks like he would have more limited opportunities but he’d still need replacing with a similar player and again that looks challenging…though less challenging I guess than Dion.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Prufrock » Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:06 am

Personally I'd want us to spend the wedge on that extra 10. From the bits I've seen if McAtee so far he looks perfect for the 9 in this system (he's a very good player so I'm sure will be excellent at 10 once he settles). Great on the press, got the physicality, excellent touch back to goal, brings people in, moves well.

If it was say Vic going and we did that, you'd still want Dan around though.

Agree with BWFCi though that letting Dion go would be a huge risk.
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Post by Prufrock » Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:15 am

And by 10 I mean in our system. I'd want more of a winger. Pace and ideally a left foot.
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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Thu Aug 29, 2024 12:05 pm

I wrote a whole thing, but again it's not necessary.

Keep Dion at all costs.

Failing that, Erik Engelhardt is your man.

Works his arse off, scores goals, links up well, etc. Yours for about half a million euros after being relegated from B2 over in Germany.

Blackburn want him, so it may be too late by the time Dion went - were that to happen.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 29, 2024 12:34 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
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I wrote a whole thing, but again it's not necessary.
Can you stop your internal editor starving us of content? Thank you!

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:31 pm

What day is the window slamming? Is it the 31st?

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:55 pm

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What day is the window slamming? Is it the 31st?
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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:32 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
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What day is the window slamming? Is it the 31st?
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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:04 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:32 pm
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What day is the window slamming? Is it the 31st?
Tomorrow night at 11pm.
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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:03 pm

https://x.com/marciles/status/182917166 ... o4TppbHkNQ

Speculate away. One guaranteed leaver before window closes another possible to leave. Premier league loan interest and ‘other incomings possible’.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:12 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:03 pm
https://x.com/marciles/status/182917166 ... o4TppbHkNQ

Speculate away. One guaranteed leaver before window closes another possible to leave. Premier league loan interest and ‘other incomings possible’.
Nah, I heard nowt was happening :D

Guess: definitely Matheson, maybe Nlundulu

Incomings, no idea

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:03 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:12 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:03 pm
https://x.com/marciles/status/182917166 ... o4TppbHkNQ

Speculate away. One guaranteed leaver before window closes another possible to leave. Premier league loan interest and ‘other incomings possible’.
Nah, I heard nowt was happening :D

Guess: definitely Matheson, maybe Nlundulu

Incomings, no idea
It’s surprising we seem to expect to be busy at least to me. Though Evatt says we have some injuries for Saturday so he will have reduced options. Though Lolos does not need surgery so is a month or so away which is good news.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:13 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:03 pm
Though Lolos does not need surgery so is a month or so away which is good news.
...and CMG "7 to 8 weeks", and will be registered as a squad member. Which is intriguing in itself as with Matheson, that makes 24. Meaning two overage outfielders have to leave (or be unregistered). An any incomings would have to be underage, unless any more are leaving....

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