The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by Peter Thompson » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:05 pm

He'll get sacked tonight....the club have absolutely no reason not to sack the incompetent cnut after his latest tactical master stroke today.

They don't need to appoint a full time manager....Sammy Lee, Jimmy Phillips, Ticket Office Manager, Head Groundsman etc....could not be any more worse than Dougie Bassett

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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by cecil.bob » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:08 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:He'll get sacked tonight....the club have absolutely no reason not to sack the incompetent cnut after his latest tactical master stroke today.

They don't need to appoint a full time manager....Sammy Lee, Jimmy Phillips, Ticket Office Manager, Head Groundsman etc....could not be any more worse than Dougie Bassett
I don't know. Gartside might do worse... Someone convince SKD to do it... Him and Nicky Hunt could come back from PNE... Be a phenomenal partnership, or not...

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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by Gravedigger » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:08 pm

He's following Megson and Coylel with the same inept handling of the players. All decisions made have been bad ones and it's not being picked up by Fat Phil that we've had a succession of absolute dross. I thought Coyle was doing it as a deliberate act and now the other bugger is doing exactly the same. There's something not right in the Reebok Republic and I don't think it's run its course yet. The man himself must reflect on the fact he isn't going anywhere fast and I think he should walk. For what he's doing now, and getting very well paid for, any one of us could do the same so how the feck can Phil still keep him on? 8)
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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:10 pm

He has a years pay still lined up for him. Why would he walk. He makes some bloody poor decisions, but he's not going to walk from a years pay.
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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by Gravedigger » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:13 pm

Aye, Bobo. Same as if we fire him for incompetence. I fecked up before I retired and I had to have a bloody good excuse. Shouldn't be compo for ineptitude and negligence. DF is a fraud and should be seen as such. 8)
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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by DJBlu » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:16 pm

Throw him on gardening leave. Put Jimmy Phillips in. We're already paying em both. If he wants to look for another job then he'll resign.

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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by cecil.bob » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:16 pm

bobo the clown wrote:He has a years pay still lined up for him. Why would he walk. He makes some bloody poor decisions, but he's not going to walk from a years pay.
Dignity? I'd think his managerial career might still be salvaged, but if he keeps this shit up for another four months no one will want him around...

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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:22 pm

Gravedigger wrote:Aye, Bobo. Same as if we fire him for incompetence. I fecked up before I retired and I had to have a bloody good excuse. Shouldn't be compo for ineptitude and negligence. DF is a fraud and should be seen as such. 8)
I don't disagree, just that football contracts don't seem to have a "you're doing a shite job so fck off" clause in them.

They DO appear to have 12 month rolling notice periods. So it's going to cost us 12 months whatever happens ... short of him having his hand up Gartside's Mrs' skirt. So, to be honest we are in hock to that amount now.
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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by SmokinFrazier » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:29 pm

bobo the clown wrote:Mavies off so then we had NO attacking flair on the pich whatsoever. We concede .... big fckg surprise. He THEN brings Moritz on !!!
That was such a bad move. Like always, Freedman made the negative choice and it backfired yet again because the opposition get shown too much respect. Freedman doesn't know how to organise a side to defend, yet we try to do that with a huge amount of time left to play. Why?! It's so infuriating. Freedman isn't Jose Mourinho or even George Graham, he does not know how to make a side defend well and yet our tactics are always to try and score, then hold onto the win. We are much better when we use the attacking talent we've got and try to attack teams, yet Freedman clearly doesn't want that to be the case.

He's such an awful manager. I haven't seen such an inept person in charge of Bolton before. Coyle and Megson must be delighted we managed to hire a manager who makes them look half decent.

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Post by Worthy4England » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:30 pm

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Were you first, second or third? :-)

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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by BWFC90 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:40 pm

Well Knight wasn't so bad so that's something

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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by enrdentw » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:43 pm

Totally ran out of patience with DF. He has to go!

- Firstly, didn't deserve to be 2-0 up. Should have gone 0-1 down. Bournemouth were the better team throughout.

- Still not closing down the opposition well enough, especially in the final third.

- M.Davies for Medo sub. Why try and shut up shop and defend a slender 2-1 advantage with 35 minutes to play at home with a defence as poor and as fragile as ours. We were always going to concede when we invite the pressure.

- Not even testing the keeper or getting a shot on target once it went to 2-2 is absolutely unforgivable in my opinion.

- Eagles, touch was terrible, gave it away almost every time he touched it.

- Spearing. Drop him. Gets overrun, can't pass, no presence, allows players to run past him, headless chicken!

- Players attitudes. They don't want to play for freedman, it's blatantly obvious that he's lost the dressing room. "Ability is nothing without attitude".

- Juckievic (or however you spell his name). Looked good, held it up better than anyone this season, shame nobody could feed off his flicks and lay offs. No one close enough to him.

- We are well and truly in a relegation battle. It has taken until today for me to accept it.

Dougie out!!
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Post by Tombwfc » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:46 pm

I was happy with the starting line-up, and although the decision to try and play on the break was slightly bizarre given we were at home to Bournemouth, but it worked well enough and we scored two very good goals.

Then they got one back instantly and all of a sudden playing on the counter attack became just plain old backs to the wall defending (again... at home... to Bournemouth).

The second half was pathetic. Devoid of all confidence and in-front of a crowd that for the first time began to noticeably turn on the team/manager during a game, it was inevitable they would score. Similar to Wolves under Megson, but with half the attendance. There was even a small, but noticeable 'Freedman Out' chant just before the final whistle.

Another disappointing day for those who care about trivial things like results, or the league table.

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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by Harry Genshaw » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:47 pm

cecil.bob wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:He has a years pay still lined up for him. Why would he walk. He makes some bloody poor decisions, but he's not going to walk from a years pay.
Dignity? I'd think his managerial career might still be salvaged, but if he keeps this shit up for another four months no one will want him around...
He could get sacked now and still fool the football world that our poor performances were solely as a result of our financial problems.

I'm off to the Reebok in a minute to dump in a paper cup and blame it on Freedman. We could sack him then for gross misconduct
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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by Annoyed Grunt » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:47 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Annoyed Grunt wrote:Just the one...but I didn't fall...
Were you first, second or third? :-)
Second....

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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by enrdentw » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:48 pm

Tombwfc wrote:I was happy with the starting line-up, and although the decision to try and play on the break was slightly bizarre given we were at home to Bournemouth, but it worked well enough and we scored two very good goals.

Then they got one back instantly and all of a sudden playing on the counter attack became just plain old backs to the wall defending (again... at home... to Bournemouth).

The second half was pathetic. Devoid of all confidence and in-front of a crowd that for the first time began to noticeably turn on the team/manager during a game, it was inevitable they would score. Similar to Wolves under Megson, but with half the attendance. There was even a small, but noticeable 'Freedman Out' chant just before the final whistle.

Another disappointing day for those who care about trivial things like results, or the league table.
We didn't deserve to be 2-0 up, Tom. That masked what was a poor first half.

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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:50 pm

Anyhoo. My view on the match.

At 2-2, it might have sounded exciting. It wasn't really, the conditions didn't help, but we were awful. They were poor first half and looked likeliest to win second. Highlight for us was Zat Beckenbaur's pass to Jutkeiwicz, who controlled and lobbed it really well. Chungies was a pretty well worked goal too. Their goal, came after a clash of heads for Bournemouth. Some of our guys seemed to half stop, and their bloke smacked a cracker past Bogdan.

Their second goal, I'm still trying to work out how they got the thing in. Near post from a corner.

Bogdan made a great save after their second goal, and they looked way more likely than us, second half.

Difficult to work out who our best player was. Taking off Mavies wasn't a big surprise, he was fairly anonymous - not quite as anonymous as Trotter, but not at his best. That he was taken off for Medo is a complete mystery.

Not sure what either Moritz or Danns might have done wrong - some fairly clueless selections for me.

MoM for me would either have been (gulp) Knight or probably Jutkiewicz, but not much in it, in a poor performance.

I did find out where we went wrong as a Club, early in the second half. It was apparently when we failed to sign Sturridge permanently, when we had him. Apparently he would have come (wrong), we could have afforded him (wrong) and there was only him who kept us up that season (wrong also - our results got worse with Sturridge playing).

Freedman needs to go.

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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by Hoboh » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:51 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
cecil.bob wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:He has a years pay still lined up for him. Why would he walk. He makes some bloody poor decisions, but he's not going to walk from a years pay.
Dignity? I'd think his managerial career might still be salvaged, but if he keeps this shit up for another four months no one will want him around...
He could get sacked now and still fool the football world that our poor performances were solely as a result of our financial problems.

I'm off to the Reebok in a minute to dump in a paper cup and blame it on Freedman. We could sack him then for gross misconduct
Gartside would appoint it the new gaffer!

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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:54 pm

Annoyed Grunt wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Annoyed Grunt wrote:Just the one...but I didn't fall...
Were you first, second or third? :-)
Second....
Ahhh....You can still win a crate of Carling.... :-)

That second one, nearly landed at the DW.

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Re: The Bourne(mouth) Ultimatum

Post by Peter Thompson » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:56 pm

Guess the Fakeman's post match comments....I'm sure I'll of heard it at least 30 times previously

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