Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by officer_dibble » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:15 pm

Just means Toal nearer to that left side again.
Mind you he’s been shite on the right so far.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Mar » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:17 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:13 pm
Mar wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:05 pm
Iles reporting that there's still a deal to go through, despite it being 11pm. Paperwork going through surely.

No clue as to whether its incoming or outgoing so it could be a negative.
He's said it's an outgoing, leaving a space in the squad.
Wow, great. This transfer deadline day has been great. I love watching the squad get worse on the last day it could get better.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:18 pm

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I’m not convinced we absolutely need a direct Iredale replacement should he be the one going.
No, though there would be big questions to ask if Johnston's knee suddenly starter swelling up on him and we'd left a lefty defender go.

Toal is a weakness on the left, for me. Forino has played there. Maybe he'd be better, but he was very direct in the role.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:19 pm

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Got to be Iredale or Williams. Which would point to a defender being signed?
Santos, Forino, Jones, Toal, Johnston

5 for 3 spots. Assuming Forrester isn’t back that quickly. Add in JDC as possible on right side too.

I’m not convinced we absolutely need a direct Iredale replacement should he be the one going.
Numerically, I agree. Tactically, at LCB I'm not sure any of them except Johnston scream "title-winner".

I suspect Jones may be cover for Johnston as "sub-six-footer, good on the ball" – not sure both can play at once unless we're playing against midgets. Two of Santos/Toal/Forino maintaining the height.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:20 pm

Mar wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:17 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:13 pm
Mar wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:05 pm
Iles reporting that there's still a deal to go through, despite it being 11pm. Paperwork going through surely.

No clue as to whether its incoming or outgoing so it could be a negative.
He's said it's an outgoing, leaving a space in the squad.
Wow, great. This transfer deadline day has been great. I love watching the squad get worse on the last day it could get better.
I know what you mean but the noises are that we're getting a free agent in, which presumably is going to strengthen us.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:21 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:19 pm
Numerically, I agree. Tactically, at LCB I'm not sure any of them except Johnston scream "title-winner".
Nor does the current iteration of Iredale, as much as I like the guy.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:21 pm

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Toal is a weakness on the left, for me.
You and a lot of teams we played last season. He was regularly the player who triggered the oppo press.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:22 pm

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Numerically, I agree. Tactically, at LCB I'm not sure any of them except Johnston scream "title-winner".
Nor does the current iteration of Iredale, as much as I like the guy.
I wonder what Iles meant by the outgoing possibly shifting ideas on who the freebie might be.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:24 pm

Iles: "The deal we're waiting for, ladies and gents, is a permanent one (I think)."

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:25 pm

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He was regularly the player who triggered the oppo press.
Has been for a while. He was basically a Barnsley playmaker in the first round of play-off games.

He's improved with the ball. I like him generally. On the right he's far less of a problem now. On his left...

He's 25 and a centre half. 3-4 years off his peak. We can't afford a lot of patience this season, but I don't want to sound like I'm writing him off. He's been a terrific signing.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:28 pm

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Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:25 pm
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He was regularly the player who triggered the oppo press.
Has been for a while. He was basically a Barnsley playmaker in the first round of play-off games.

He's improved with the ball. I like him generally. On the right he's far less of a problem now. On his left...

He's 25 and a centre half. 3-4 years off his peak. We can't afford a lot of patience this season, but I don't want to sound like I'm writing him off. He's been a terrific signing.
I like Toaly. I wonder if he's good enough on the ball. Especially on the left.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by officer_dibble » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:30 pm

He would be a great league 1 centre half in a simple system, could be in a back 4, just as long as he wasn’t expected to be a playmaker as well as a defender. No issue with Toal but as the likeliest person to end up left centre half in this team if we lose Johnston it’s a worry!

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by sonicthewhite » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:42 pm

Iredale has been talking to Hibs today apparently.
Age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill!

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:44 pm

sonicthewhite wrote:
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Iredale has been talking to Hibs today apparently.
Iles: "Cat's out the bag"

"Lots of international red tape and paperwork to negotiate, as ever. But I understand this is the deal we're waiting to see go through."

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:45 pm

sonicthewhite wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:42 pm
Iredale has been talking to Hibs today apparently.
Money for an expiring contract would be positive, I suppose.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:49 pm

In terms of the reality of finances at the club, if Forrester were fit then this would just be fine.

We have 7 centre backs, we need 6.

One is injured, but that's why we have 6 on the books.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by sonicthewhite » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:50 pm

Iredale has never really been a first choice kind of player sadly. A small fee, an exporing contract offcthe books and free squad place? Add to that an out of contract incoming or loanee and it could be a good bit of business. Add the steel to the situation that Evatt is becoming ruthless to his players if they screw up then the whole squad may just up their collective game. Win win all round.
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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by officer_dibble » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:51 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:49 pm
In terms of the reality of finances at the club, if Forrester were fit then this would just be fine.

We have 7 centre backs, we need 6.

One is injured, but that's why we have 6 on the books.
Aye maybe Forester back sooner - shame he’s not a leftie!

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:53 pm

sonicthewhite wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:50 pm
Iredale has never really been a first choice kind of player sadly.
Equally, from the player's position, Hibs likely want him as a left back in a 4 - so he can defend to the line and not worry so much about turning back on himself on that knee.

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Re: Tooling up: The summer 2024 transfer thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:57 pm

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Aye maybe Forester back sooner - shame he’s not a leftie!
Might be something we could fix in January, with Jones' deal expiring.

Minimum of 24 games until then. If it all goes tits up then that's potentially the season gone; but if your season goes based on a 70%-right Jack Iredale what on earth has happened?

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