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Odelay wrote: Credit to Ricketts and Knight who played well together. Only real feckup was the first goal. Everyone just seemed to stop and watch Nani waltz up the park only to go, "oh yeah that's right, we need to defend," but obviously too little too late.
The major 'feckup' here was that neither Holden or Muamba cropped him on the halfway line, I know it sounds bad but I was screaming for somebody to trip the little fecker, I could see the danger... Why couldn't our midfield / defence? No way that Scholes, Fletcher, Vidic or Evans would have let one of our lads through without smashing him
Agreed... How weird does it feel?Odelay wrote:Strangely bitter we only got a point.
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My view from the West Stand Lower:
1.) Great game. Fair result. Good atmosphere, and pride amongst the home supporters. We probably had the best chance to win the game with Elmander's chance at 2-1.
2.) This 4-4-2 against decent teams always gives me the feeling we will be overrun. Today we weren't just. I think Holden is a great player, a great find, and his energy is probably the reason we get some possession. The full backs didn't advance too far, so we generally always had a solid defence.
3.) On the other hand, playing 4-4-2 gives us an attacking threat, and we have four decent attacking players who linked well today.
4.) I think Ricketts is the best CH we have. He was MOTM for me.
5.) Good games from Jussi, Robinson, Knight, SKD, Elmander, Petrov (but not motm as he was voted). Lee and Steinsson were average. Muamba below average. Ricketts and Holden excellent.
6.) If we are still improving as OC says, then we can have a decent season. The big test is how often we can win the games against mid and lower table teams. I suspect that we will not win as often as we should due to missed chances or lapses in midfield/defence. Still things are certainly looking a lot more promising than this time last season.
1.) Great game. Fair result. Good atmosphere, and pride amongst the home supporters. We probably had the best chance to win the game with Elmander's chance at 2-1.
2.) This 4-4-2 against decent teams always gives me the feeling we will be overrun. Today we weren't just. I think Holden is a great player, a great find, and his energy is probably the reason we get some possession. The full backs didn't advance too far, so we generally always had a solid defence.
3.) On the other hand, playing 4-4-2 gives us an attacking threat, and we have four decent attacking players who linked well today.
4.) I think Ricketts is the best CH we have. He was MOTM for me.
5.) Good games from Jussi, Robinson, Knight, SKD, Elmander, Petrov (but not motm as he was voted). Lee and Steinsson were average. Muamba below average. Ricketts and Holden excellent.
6.) If we are still improving as OC says, then we can have a decent season. The big test is how often we can win the games against mid and lower table teams. I suspect that we will not win as often as we should due to missed chances or lapses in midfield/defence. Still things are certainly looking a lot more promising than this time last season.
Thought Lee was stand out today.bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:My view from the West Stand Lower:
1.) Great game. Fair result. Good atmosphere, and pride amongst the home supporters. We probably had the best chance to win the game with Elmander's chance at 2-1.
2.) This 4-4-2 against decent teams always gives me the feeling we will be overrun. Today we weren't just. I think Holden is a great player, a great find, and his energy is probably the reason we get some possession. The full backs didn't advance too far, so we generally always had a solid defence.
3.) On the other hand, playing 4-4-2 gives us an attacking threat, and we have four decent attacking players who linked well today.
4.) I think Ricketts is the best CH we have. He was MOTM for me.
5.) Good games from Jussi, Robinson, Knight, SKD, Elmander, Petrov (but not motm as he was voted). Lee and Steinsson were average. Muamba below average. Ricketts and Holden excellent.
6.) If we are still improving as OC says, then we can have a decent season. The big test is how often we can win the games against mid and lower table teams. I suspect that we will not win as often as we should due to missed chances or lapses in midfield/defence. Still things are certainly looking a lot more promising than this time last season.
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Lee is great with the ball, at times anonymous without it. Same goes for Petrov. Its the sacrifice we've made for having a more potent attacking threat, putting more pressure on the back four and middle two to "put in a shift".
On blance (and it is on balance) I like it, mostly because we get to see Bolton Wanderers scoring goals like the Petrov one today. Brilliant ball from Petrov, superbly taken by Lee, great take and pass from Elmander, neat bit of skill (and a deserved touch of luck) and its in the back of the net. I'd swap that for ten outfield grafters every single day of the week.
Where is Gavin McCann btw?
On blance (and it is on balance) I like it, mostly because we get to see Bolton Wanderers scoring goals like the Petrov one today. Brilliant ball from Petrov, superbly taken by Lee, great take and pass from Elmander, neat bit of skill (and a deserved touch of luck) and its in the back of the net. I'd swap that for ten outfield grafters every single day of the week.
Where is Gavin McCann btw?
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I thought Lee and Petrov worked hard off the ball today. Especially second half.Lord Kangana wrote:Lee is great with the ball, at times anonymous without it. Same goes for Petrov. Its the sacrifice we've made for having a more potent attacking threat, putting more pressure on the back four and middle two to "put in a shift".
On blance (and it is on balance) I like it, mostly because we get to see Bolton Wanderers scoring goals like the Petrov one today. Brilliant ball from Petrov, superbly taken by Lee, great take and pass from Elmander, neat bit of skill (and a deserved touch of luck) and its in the back of the net. I'd swap that for ten outfield grafters every single day of the week.
Where is Gavin McCann btw?
Lee is quite tigerish when he fancies it.
However its one thing putting that workrate in against Man Utd but another doing it against West Brom and Stoke, lets hope they keep it up.
Rofl...bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:Mowing Gary Megson's lawn?Lord Kangana wrote:
Where is Gavin McCann btw?
Lord Kangana wrote:Lee is great with the ball, at times anonymous without it. Same goes for Petrov. Its the sacrifice we've made for having a more potent attacking threat, putting more pressure on the back four and middle two to "put in a shift".
On blance (and it is on balance) I like it, mostly because we get to see Bolton Wanderers scoring goals like the Petrov one today. Brilliant ball from Petrov, superbly taken by Lee, great take and pass from Elmander, neat bit of skill (and a deserved touch of luck) and its in the back of the net. I'd swap that for ten outfield grafters every single day of the week.
Where is Gavin McCann btw?
I remember thinking to myself Lee and Holden were defending quite well today. I do know what you mean though, Lee does tend fade in and out. Have we ever played Lee in the middle?
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Yes and yes, but those two working hard isn't the same as having a, how can I diplomatically put this, "putter in of shifts" in there. But if we had that, we'd have less attacking potency.BWFC_Insane wrote:I thought Lee and Petrov worked hard off the ball today. Especially second half.Lord Kangana wrote:Lee is great with the ball, at times anonymous without it. Same goes for Petrov. Its the sacrifice we've made for having a more potent attacking threat, putting more pressure on the back four and middle two to "put in a shift".
On blance (and it is on balance) I like it, mostly because we get to see Bolton Wanderers scoring goals like the Petrov one today. Brilliant ball from Petrov, superbly taken by Lee, great take and pass from Elmander, neat bit of skill (and a deserved touch of luck) and its in the back of the net. I'd swap that for ten outfield grafters every single day of the week.
Where is Gavin McCann btw?
Lee is quite tigerish when he fancies it.
However its one thing putting that workrate in against Man Utd but another doing it against West Brom and Stoke, lets hope they keep it up.
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LK I know what you're saying. We're set up in a certain way now, I suppose the issue might rear its head if we concede goals and fail to beat West Brom and Stoke, whether we're good enough to keep clean sheets without that extra player who puts a "shift in". Time will tell.Lord Kangana wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:I thought Lee and Petrov worked hard off the ball today. Especially second half.Lord Kangana wrote:Lee is great with the ball, at times anonymous without it. Same goes for Petrov. Its the sacrifice we've made for having a more potent attacking threat, putting more pressure on the back four and middle two to "put in a shift".
On blance (and it is on balance) I like it, mostly because we get to see Bolton Wanderers scoring goals like the Petrov one today. Brilliant ball from Petrov, superbly taken by Lee, great take and pass from Elmander, neat bit of skill (and a deserved touch of luck) and its in the back of the net. I'd swap that for ten outfield grafters every single day of the week.
Where is Gavin McCann btw?
Lee is quite tigerish when he fancies it.
However its one thing putting that workrate in against Man Utd but another doing it against West Brom and Stoke, lets hope they keep it up.
Yes and yes, but those two working hard isn't the same as having a, how can I diplomatically put this, "putter in of shifts" in there. But if we had that, we'd have less attacking potency.
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Might be a bit of an odd one out, but I'm delighted with the way we're shaping up. Route one is still a useful option at times and Davies and Elmander are getting a better understanding, but we're getting some momentum playing football and its good to see. Sure, we need the grafters, but we have a lot more flair than we've had for a fair while and we're not just reliant on set pieces. We didn't hide from United today and caused their defence a problem or two. Just one of three from Elmander and we'd have had the points. That will surely come the way he's playing. He's added strength to pace and skill and his confidence is evident in his game now.
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A really happy wanderer here, every player gave 110% today and they played as a unit which was great to watch. If we play like this week in week out we will finish within the top half of the table. Johan was superb today on another day he would have got a deserved goal.
I am a huge fan of Muamba but today he was poor and I held my breathe every time he got the ball, there is no pointing in making a tackle if you are going to pass it straight back to the opposition.
Petrov played superbly and I was impressed with his work ethic too. I was most impressed with Holden today though for a youngish lad he showed great experience and always wanted to receive the ball in the centre of the park.
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I am a huge fan of Muamba but today he was poor and I held my breathe every time he got the ball, there is no pointing in making a tackle if you are going to pass it straight back to the opposition.
Petrov played superbly and I was impressed with his work ethic too. I was most impressed with Holden today though for a youngish lad he showed great experience and always wanted to receive the ball in the centre of the park.
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I really don't get this. In the moments that really mattered Knight may as well have produced a basket of rose petals to toss at Nani's feet and Elmander, for him not to at least put his embarrassing effort on target was unforgivable. Absolute shit.William the White wrote:Between Knight and Elmander for MotM for me - with Knight edging it
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I'll give you part (2) regarding Mr Elmander - turning point in the game - for me difference between 3 points and 1.Bruce Rioja wrote:I really don't get this. In the moments that really mattered Knight may as well have produced a basket of rose petals to toss at Nani's feet and Elmander, for him not to at least put his embarrassing effort on target was unforgivable. Absolute shit.William the White wrote:Between Knight and Elmander for MotM for me - with Knight edging it
Knight was MotM for me today, and had others done their job against Nani (which they should have done, given that he plays predominantly on the wing, rather than through the middle), we might have fared better. How Nani got from pretty much the centre spot to the edge of our area without a decent tackle going anywhere near him is a fecking mystery.
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Very proud of our players today. We played really well, best performance of the season so far. We looked like a good team premiership team.
The players did great, but honourable mention to Elmander, Knight and Robinson. They were superb.
A lot has already been said about Elmander and Knight, but I also thought that Robinson was tough as nail in defense, dispite the presence of the classy Nani. A lesser player would have capitulated against Nani's skills,m but I thought he coped well.
A brilliant counter attacking goal by us, normally associated with teams like Arsenal and Man U, had me jumping in my house here in Jamaica, and the funny thing is that with this OC team, even when we concede a goal, I know we will create chances.
Special word on Lee and Petrov. In this system, we need them to get involved, and today we are starting to see this happen. Lee is such a talented and intelligent player on the ball. When he gets it, I hold my breath, because he is like a chess player who carefully calculates all the permutations and makes the perfect play given the situation. Doesn't come off all the time, but he is a delightful little player and I am glad he plays for BW.
Lets get up for the less talented teams and start winning games again. We have a good opportunities in the upcoming matches.
The players did great, but honourable mention to Elmander, Knight and Robinson. They were superb.
A lot has already been said about Elmander and Knight, but I also thought that Robinson was tough as nail in defense, dispite the presence of the classy Nani. A lesser player would have capitulated against Nani's skills,m but I thought he coped well.
A brilliant counter attacking goal by us, normally associated with teams like Arsenal and Man U, had me jumping in my house here in Jamaica, and the funny thing is that with this OC team, even when we concede a goal, I know we will create chances.
Special word on Lee and Petrov. In this system, we need them to get involved, and today we are starting to see this happen. Lee is such a talented and intelligent player on the ball. When he gets it, I hold my breath, because he is like a chess player who carefully calculates all the permutations and makes the perfect play given the situation. Doesn't come off all the time, but he is a delightful little player and I am glad he plays for BW.
Lets get up for the less talented teams and start winning games again. We have a good opportunities in the upcoming matches.
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There is some real buggery titwankery nonsense posted on this as with all other messageboards.Bruce Rioja wrote:I really don't get this. In the moments that really mattered Knight may as well have produced a basket of rose petals to toss at Nani's feet and Elmander, for him not to at least put his embarrassing effort on target was unforgivable. Absolute shit.William the White wrote:Between Knight and Elmander for MotM for me - with Knight edging it
But I think this post takes the prize and that includes all of Sir Nutcase's posts.
Fook me. Knight was superb today. As was Elmander. He missed the chance yes, but like others have said if he was burying all those chances quite simply he'd not be here. Finishing is clearly not his strength, but he did things today we've not had a player capable of doing since Gudjohnsen (oh fooking yes) and Eidur was prone to blaze simple chances over having done all the hard work himself as well.
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