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Re: Bolton Wanderers vs Toffeemen

Post by truewhite15 » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:50 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Better. Everton were total wank though so not sure how good we actually were.

Wheater looks very good on this evidence. Much better than Knight on first assessments against Wigan in the cup and again today. Attacks the ball well and has more than just a big hoof, but does that when required too.

Can't agree at all about folk saying Elmander had a poor game. His job was to make runs across the back four which he did very well first half. Secondly it was to stop Baines, Evertons main threat this season and one of the best attacking full backs in the league from doing damage. He did that well, apart from once when Cahill should have scored and Coyle gave Elmo a roasting for that. But other than that I liked the shape he gave the side and for a striker to play out there and do such a good job against Baines, Kudos.

Hard to pick MOTM but I'd go along with those saying Mark Davies. Very gutsy and I've been critical of him before. Holden very good again, looked a bit tired at the end and no wonder.

Full backs looked better too.

Oh and I've been critical of him recently but SKD had a stormer. Still frustrated a couple of times not playing the ball quick enough but he lead from the front today something he's not done of late.

I like the shape of the team we have more outballs and generally look more threatening.

Oh and finally, Dowd, what an inconsistent referee he is. He seemed determined to let the game go, which is no bad thing, but then gave free kicks for absolutely nothing. Odd, odd performance.
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Re: Bolton Wanderers vs Toffeemen

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:52 pm

truewhite15 wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Better. Everton were total wank though so not sure how good we actually were.

Wheater looks very good on this evidence. Much better than Knight on first assessments against Wigan in the cup and again today. Attacks the ball well and has more than just a big hoof, but does that when required too.

Can't agree at all about folk saying Elmander had a poor game. His job was to make runs across the back four which he did very well first half. Secondly it was to stop Baines, Evertons main threat this season and one of the best attacking full backs in the league from doing damage. He did that well, apart from once when Cahill should have scored and Coyle gave Elmo a roasting for that. But other than that I liked the shape he gave the side and for a striker to play out there and do such a good job against Baines, Kudos.

Hard to pick MOTM but I'd go along with those saying Mark Davies. Very gutsy and I've been critical of him before. Holden very good again, looked a bit tired at the end and no wonder.

Full backs looked better too.

Oh and I've been critical of him recently but SKD had a stormer. Still frustrated a couple of times not playing the ball quick enough but he lead from the front today something he's not done of late.

I like the shape of the team we have more outballs and generally look more threatening.

Oh and finally, Dowd, what an inconsistent referee he is. He seemed determined to let the game go, which is no bad thing, but then gave free kicks for absolutely nothing. Odd, odd performance.
That'd be Probert, no?
Yes sorry saying that, Dowd would have been just as bad! :mrgreen:

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Re: Bolton Wanderers vs Toffeemen

Post by plymouth wanderer » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:53 pm

Oh and finally, Dowd, what an inconsistent referee he is. He seemed determined to let the game go, which is no bad thing, but then gave free kicks for absolutely nothing. Odd, odd performance.[/quote]

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Re: Bolton Wanderers vs Toffeemen

Post by bobo the clown » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:58 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:.... the "all ball has to cross the line" is the rule. It didn't and the goal (besides being a cracker) was legitimate.
OK, I've heard this a lot.

Unless the rule has changed .... & I'm sure someone will tell us if it has ... that applies on the goal-line (ie "between the sticks"). For all other lines it is "more than 50%" has to be over the line for it to be considered out.

Either way, much as it looked like it was in when the TV showed it from the umpteenth angle it was OUT of play.

As you say TD, it is moot now, but that was the rule last time I looked.


Otherwisde, a good, solid performance. We dominated other than maybe 30m-40m and 50m-60m.

Moyes went so far as to say it.

If Alan Green fat arse gets in the way of his view we shouldn't be surprised. He spoke nicely of 'Owen Coyle's Bolton pre match. Didn't here him live but yes, I'm sure I know how it went. But he's a tosser & I'm sure most people know this .... don't they ??
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Re: Bolton Wanderers vs Toffeemen

Post by Worthy4England » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:03 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Better. Everton were total wank though so not sure how good we actually were.

Miserable owd bugger! We can only beat what's out in front of us. That was a decentish team in lower mid-table.

We were well worth the 3 points. Can't remember Jussi being troubled until about the 85th minute. Cahill's first half go, wouldn't have troubled him other than to pick it out of the net.

Mark Davies seemed to be playing much deeper early doors - almost in the "Muamba role". Thought it worked quite well tbh, and later in the game, he pressed forwards more - which seems to be his more natural game.

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Re: Bolton Wanderers vs Toffeemen

Post by Peter Thompson » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:13 pm

Decent performance especially 2nd half, I thought most of the team played quite well (apart from Taylor - yet again his passing was awful and most of his free kicks were poor) Jussi could have helped out the defence more on 1 or 2 occassions 1st half by coming off his line, but he did better 2nd half - but all in all a very good win

I thought M Davies, Holden, Cahill, Wheater and K Davies played well, his best game for ages and LCY was also good when he came on. Sturridge gives us a better option with his pace and directness - although at times he is a bit to greedy but he can finish and will only get better with more games.

Very important 3 points....well done OC much better than of late

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Re: Bolton Wanderers vs Toffeemen

Post by Devon White » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:23 pm

i agree tommo

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Re: Bolton Wanderers vs Toffeemen

Post by wonka » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:36 pm

Not a bad performance.

Sturridge hasn't really had much of a chance to show his pace that much, but still scored 3 goals. Once he finds his rhythm, will score plenty more.

I'm an Elmander fan, but for me, if he's not played as a striker he should just drop to the bench. Much prefer to see CLY start, with either Petrov or Taylor. Not keen on Elmo on the wing.

Impressed with Wheater so far... but let's see if we can keep a clean sheet on Wednesday!
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Re: Bolton Wanderers vs Toffeemen

Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:49 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Better. Everton were total wank though so not sure how good we actually were.
Miserable owd bugger! We can only beat what's out in front of us. That was a decentish team in lower mid-table.
Just come back on, and that's spot on Worthy. There's no consistency in the league right now and every suit's got to be cut according to the cloth. We'll play differently against others but Everton are no duckeggs although they're not having there best season. You can still see why they're good when on form. Fellaini is very composed, wants the ball and uses it well. Arteta and Cahil are always a threat but that big soft-arse in the middle was no help to them by falling over and wailing to the ref. We kept their attacks to all build-up and no end product, defended well and struck at speed. Commentators remarked how KD epitomises Bolton. There were no bad players out there today and it was a solid performance in doing what we had to do. MD and Holden never stopped running and hassling and OC has got them working for ninety minutes. I'm quite happy with today.
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Re: Bolton Wanderers vs Toffeemen

Post by officer_dibble » Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:39 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:Decent performance especially 2nd half, I thought most of the team played quite well (apart from Taylor - yet again his passing was awful and most of his free kicks were poor) Jussi could have helped out the defence more on 1 or 2 occassions 1st half by coming off his line, but he did better 2nd half - but all in all a very good win

I thought M Davies, Holden, Cahill, Wheater and K Davies played well, his best game for ages and LCY was also good when he came on. Sturridge gives us a better option with his pace and directness - although at times he is a bit to greedy but he can finish and will only get better with more games.

Very important 3 points....well done OC much better than of late
Wahey! We've won man, what are you doing on here? :wink:

Everton....anyone remember the last time we didn't lose to them in a season? Anyway we were very comfortable today, more so wehn Knight went off. He's actually injured himself trying to cover up for being a bit slow of the mark there, but Wheater for me looks better at this moment in time.

We controlled the midfield which was pretty much key - Holden/Davies much more organised and disciplined today...maybe its cos they had to be with Elmander playing in there (though he did well on Baines).

We were well worth 3 points today, can't understand why anyone would think otherwise.

Top men, were Super Kev (won everything, some good tackles and defensive clearances from set pieces) and Mark Davies as well was great. Wheater and Cahill very good also, infact so were Ricketts and Robbo. The clean sheet is a massive one actually.

For them I do rate Fellaini, very all action, but Arteta wasnt interested (wonder if he fancies playing somewhere decent? I'd have him here) and I think that Coleman probably had his worst game for them, couldn't trap a bag of cement. Crap up front as well and don't rate Heitinga.

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Re: Bolton Wanderers vs Toffeemen

Post by hisroyalgingerness » Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:45 pm

Re Davo, much more like his old self today. Chasing lost causes and getting stuck in up top. There was a stage when Fellaini dropped back and was contesting in the air rather than the full backs that made it tough but we reacted to it and changed our angle of attack, which was good.

I think overall what we did better today was that high energy pressing further up the pitch that served us so well up until November. I think in hindsight when we had the fixture congestion we took the foot off the pedal with the pressing because we were so knackered, but it's what made us so tough to play against.

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Re: Bolton Wanderers vs Toffeemen

Post by jimbo » Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:59 pm

Really must just be me reading this who thought Davies was still a bit below par, in an attacking sense anyway. Defensively he was very good, winning things in our own box, and there was one challenge in particular on Neville after sustained pressure in the second half that relieved a lot of it and changed the tone of the game at that time.

In attack though I still think he looks laboured. Not winning the balls as regularly as he can do, and seems to require too much thinking time on the ball. There was a time late on where he had it on half way with Lee breaking right, and Sturridge left, and he just dithered and ended up being dispossessed too easily. Coyle gave him a roasting after that. There were other times as well where he seemed to pick the wrong option, or fail to execute something that seemed simple.

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Post by RobbieSavagesLeg » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:17 pm

Anyone got the disallowed goal link?
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Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:19 pm

sidewaysmove wrote:Alan Green!

From the moment he took over commentary, he got stuck into us.
Straight away saying we didn't deserve the lead, that the weather was awful, slagging the drummers off etc etc!
Why is the guy so anti Bolton Wanderers?
Is he paid to commentate, impartially. Or to constantly slag off Bolton Wanderers...?
Alan Green is robbing a living. Asked by Savage who had played internationals for Bolton recently, he got Ricketts and Jussi. So between the two of them they decided that Everton were more tired. he even said "Elmander won't have got a game".

They actually pay cnuts like him. I feel like giving up at times.
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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:29 pm

He needs to do his research, fat c*nt. I'm gonna email him this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlaslL-AUkM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Verbal » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:36 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
sidewaysmove wrote:Alan Green!

From the moment he took over commentary, he got stuck into us.
Straight away saying we didn't deserve the lead, that the weather was awful, slagging the drummers off etc etc!
Why is the guy so anti Bolton Wanderers?
Is he paid to commentate, impartially. Or to constantly slag off Bolton Wanderers...?
Alan Green is robbing a living. Asked by Savage who had played internationals for Bolton recently, he got Ricketts and Jussi. So between the two of them they decided that Everton were more tired. he even said "Elmander won't have got a game".

They actually pay cnuts like him. I feel like giving up at times.
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Re: Bolton Wanderers vs Toffeemen

Post by Little Green Man » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:37 pm

That'll be the Jussi that retired from international football a while back? I heard him struggling with that list and thought 'jog on, you fat prick'. As you say, robbing a living. He's only interested in the big clubs with a trophy-laden back catalogue from his formative years.

Anyway, that looked a very good all round performance today. What happened to the Megsonic displays of post-Christmas? I don't believe it's down to the welcome return of a knackered LCY. Is it Sturridge or something(s) else?

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Post by jaffka » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:41 pm

i think that its a traditional thing a bad run over christmas

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Post by Little Green Man » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:42 pm

jaffka wrote:i think that its a traditional thing a bad run over christmas
A small squad and too many dates?

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Re: Bolton Wanderers vs Toffeemen

Post by CAPSLOCK » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:44 pm

Today was little different to those performances mentioned - or 80% of the games this season

Just we scored a couple and they missed their big chance
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