“Make towards the pebbled shore"..The Brighton match thread

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Re: “Make towards the pebbled shore"..The Brighton match thr

Post by thebish » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:43 pm

Peter Thompson wrote: By championship standards he's been backed sufficiently and spent (sorry wasted) enough cash either in transfer fee's and/or wages....
how much do you reckon he has wasted then?

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Post by Peter Thompson » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:56 pm

thebish wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote: By championship standards he's been backed sufficiently and spent (sorry wasted) enough cash either in transfer fee's and/or wages....
how much do you reckon he has wasted then?
Bit of a silly question really, as I don't personally know exactly what salaries or transfer fees that Freedman has agreed.

However, I would counter that of ALL of Freedman's signings I've yet to see any / one of them actually improve the team, in regards to making us either - more solid at the back, more solid in midfield, more creative in midfield, more mobile in midfield, pass the ball better or make us more potent in attack or have more chances on goal.

All in all after all the rubbish he spouts about possession football, playing from the back, bringing on youngsters etc - his team hoofs the ball as much as ever. The team play like 11 x individuals, like they are not coached and certainly never motivated or fired up.

Now you tell me what he has improved and tell me what money he hasn't wasted....

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Re: “Make towards the pebbled shore"..The Brighton match thr

Post by William the White » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:59 pm

Text from the southern family Seagulls fans - complete with 90th minute shot of the scoreboard. :evil:

it really was a good match. Although we had possession it could have gone either way...

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Re: “Make towards the pebbled shore"..The Brighton match thr

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:02 pm

For me, it's a bit like Megson. He's made some decent signings, but has no clue as to what to do with them.

He's also signed some shoite.

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Post by Hoboh » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:15 pm

Worthy4England wrote:For me, it's a bit like Megson. He's made some decent signings, but has no clue as to what to do with them.

He's also signed some shoite.
I'd say he's too much like Megson!!

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Post by thebish » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:33 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:
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Peter Thompson wrote: By championship standards he's been backed sufficiently and spent (sorry wasted) enough cash either in transfer fee's and/or wages....
how much do you reckon he has wasted then?
Bit of a silly question really, as I don't personally know exactly what salaries or transfer fees that Freedman has agreed.

However, I would counter that of ALL of Freedman's signings I've yet to see any / one of them actually improve the team, in regards to making us either - more solid at the back, more solid in midfield, more creative in midfield, more mobile in midfield, pass the ball better or make us more potent in attack or have more chances on goal.

All in all after all the rubbish he spouts about possession football, playing from the back, bringing on youngsters etc - his team hoofs the ball as much as ever. The team play like 11 x individuals, like they are not coached and certainly never motivated or fired up.

Now you tell me what he has improved and tell me what money he hasn't wasted....
i dunno!! I'm not claiming to know!! I think it's just a bit odd to proclaim that someone has wasted a load of money and then say have no idea at all how much money has been spent! my impression is still that he hasn't actually spent that much - an irrelevance, maybe - but there's plenty enough stick left to beat freedman with without claiming he's wasted tons of money!! your third paragraph, for instance - I agree - we can see that's true - the money, though - we don't really know, do we?

(however - I do think feeney and danns have improved the team - and McNaughton - and Davies doesn't look bad this season...)

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Re: “Make towards the pebbled shore"..The Brighton match thr

Post by TonyDomingos » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:44 pm

William the White wrote:Text from the southern family Seagulls fans - complete with 90th minute shot of the scoreboard. :evil:

it really was a good match. Although we had possession it could have gone either way...
That's a fair summary: there was definitely a point there for the taking.
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Post by twilight » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:57 pm

how did the young full back do, hayden white?

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Post by TonyDomingos » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:03 pm

White was ok - certainly didn't look like he was out of his depth.

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Post by twilight » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:12 pm

Thanks Tony. I'm sure i have heard him mention something about White after the game and it wasn't very flattering....

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Post by TonyDomingos » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:20 pm

Brighton were the better team, but we could have had a point had we taken one of several half chances in the final 10 minutes (and Mason missed a sitter in the first half). Although Brighton had a lot of shots, a fair few were well wide or straight at the keeper(s). And Lonners probably should have saved the winner.

Dan & I have conferred on player ratings and have come up with -

Bogdan 5.5, Lonergan 4.5, White 5, Mills 7.5, Wheater 6, Ream 6, Spearing 4, Danns 5, Lee 6, Medo 5.5, Mason 5, C.Davies 6.5, Feeney 5, Trotter 5.

On a scale where 5-6 is "ok".
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Re: “Make towards the pebbled shore"..The Brighton match thr

Post by bwfcdan94 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:26 pm

thebish wrote:bollox. yet another saturday afternoon pissed on...

it'd be marginally better if we didn't have the habit of going ahead in the first place, thus giving false hope... :?
Well me and Tony D were under no illusions. Jay Spearing was joke today, the man is not fit to be captain he doesn't lead by example, White was equally poor. The only players who deserved the shirt today were Matt Mills and C Davies. Lonergan somehow proved worse than Bogdan in goal, Neil Danns has seemed to lost his spark and was almost non existent, Joe Mason hardly touched the ball. It was so bad that Trotter looked like one of our better players when he came on. In Essence as soon as Brighton equalised the match was lost.

Nonetheless a good day out and although I think we will lose on Tuesday and Saturday I am now looking forward to it.
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Post by bwfcdan94 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:28 pm

TonyDomingos wrote:White was ok - certainly didn't look like he was out of his depth.

Dan & my player ratings to follow!
I don't think the way Dougie used him helped, he had clearly been told just to hoof it down the line, to little affect and IMO his positioning was poor, he didn't know whether to press or to hold off, neither worked.
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Post by twilight » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:31 pm

Neil Danns has got the "signed for Bolton permanently" syndrome sadly it seems

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Re: “Make towards the pebbled shore"..The Brighton match thr

Post by KeyserSoze » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:18 am

Good to see baptistery concede a penalty again today.
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Re: “Make towards the pebbled shore"..The Brighton match thr

Post by TonyDomingos » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:06 pm

Four mins of highlights http://youtu.be/KIyr8SBWzp8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dan is the lad in the bright red jacket behind the goal.
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Re: “Make towards the pebbled shore"..The Brighton match thr

Post by Dr Hotdog » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:14 pm

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thebish wrote:bollox. yet another saturday afternoon pissed on...

it'd be marginally better if we didn't have the habit of going ahead in the first place, thus giving false hope... :?
Well me and Tony D were under no illusions. Jay Spearing was joke today, the man is not fit to be captain he doesn't lead by example, White was equally poor. The only players who deserved the shirt today were Matt Mills and C Davies. Lonergan somehow proved worse than Bogdan in goal, Neil Danns has seemed to lost his spark and was almost non existent, Joe Mason hardly touched the ball. It was so bad that Trotter looked like one of our better players when he came on. In Essence as soon as Brighton equalised the match was lost.

Nonetheless a good day out and although I think we will lose on Tuesday and Saturday I am now looking forward to it.
Somehow? He just has to get up in the morning to be worse than Bogdan in goal. He is worse than Bogdan in goal.

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Re: “Make towards the pebbled shore"..The Brighton match thr

Post by bwfcdan94 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:37 pm

TonyDomingos wrote:Four mins of highlights http://youtu.be/KIyr8SBWzp8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dan is the lad in the bright red jacket behind the goal in the the 1st half.
Sat down, the horror, tbf there was a lot of leg room and 95% of the people that went sat down. Tony D is sat next to me BTW
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Post by Jugs » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:51 pm

I expected us to lose; in all honesty, I expected a hammering. I listened on the radio and was encouraged in the first half by what sounded like a decent performance. But it's another defeat, which means more pressure the following week on getting that first win.

And we still haven't scored from open play all season.

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Post by boltonboris » Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:18 am

My god Tim Ream.. Cost us 1 goal, could've cost us 3/4 more.

Mills was dreadful for the second goal, Lonergan even worse.

It's just fvckin' calamitous
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