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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Peter Thompson » Tue May 31, 2016 1:21 pm

Do we know whether KA/DH have actually approached or sounded out Stubbs ?, if they have then Bruce may be correct about Rotherham being a better bet than us, but unless I've missed some article I can't think that I've seen anything suggesting that he's been approached or even sounded out by Bolton.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue May 31, 2016 1:28 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:Do we know whether KA/DH have actually approached or sounded out Stubbs ?, if they have then Bruce may be correct about Rotherham being a better bet than us, but unless I've missed some article I can't think that I've seen anything suggesting that he's been approached or even sounded out by Bolton.
My guess, PT, is that we aren't even in a position to sound him out.
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue May 31, 2016 1:39 pm

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... wish_list/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The owners have identified the new signings for next season. And the managers they've met with were all 'nodding along'....

Anyhow, Anderson has told the Bolton News that he will have to invest his money in order to get the embargo lifted. So the fact he hasn't is the hold up in submitting accounts etc....

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Post by Worthy4England » Tue May 31, 2016 2:12 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... wish_list/

The owners have identified the new signings for next season. And the managers they've met with were all 'nodding along'....

Anyhow, Anderson has told the Bolton News that he will have to invest his money in order to get the embargo lifted. So the fact he hasn't is the hold up in submitting accounts etc....
You're still going to have to explain that one to me.

I don't get how Anderson putting money in, in June 2016, would affect a set of Accounts for the Financial period ending 30 June 2015? :conf:

I get how it might relate to the lifting of the embargo.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue May 31, 2016 2:15 pm

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BWFC_Insane wrote:http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... wish_list/

The owners have identified the new signings for next season. And the managers they've met with were all 'nodding along'....

Anyhow, Anderson has told the Bolton News that he will have to invest his money in order to get the embargo lifted. So the fact he hasn't is the hold up in submitting accounts etc....
You're still going to have to explain that one to me.

I don't get how Anderson putting money in, in June 2016, would affect a set of Accounts for the Financial period ending 30 June 2015? :conf:

I get how it might relate to the lifting of the embargo.

Wasn't it the future statement in the accounts that the previous board couldn't sign off as Eddie wasn't putting more money in so there was a blackhole? That was my understanding.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Worthy4England » Tue May 31, 2016 2:29 pm

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Worthy4England wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... wish_list/

The owners have identified the new signings for next season. And the managers they've met with were all 'nodding along'....

Anyhow, Anderson has told the Bolton News that he will have to invest his money in order to get the embargo lifted. So the fact he hasn't is the hold up in submitting accounts etc....
You're still going to have to explain that one to me.

I don't get how Anderson putting money in, in June 2016, would affect a set of Accounts for the Financial period ending 30 June 2015? :conf:

I get how it might relate to the lifting of the embargo.

Wasn't it the future statement in the accounts that the previous board couldn't sign off as Eddie wasn't putting more money in so there was a blackhole? That was my understanding.
I guess that'd be a problem in that the Board at the time of the Accounts no longer exists, so they'd be struggling to give an opinion of going concern for 12 months ago. I'm missing the "ongoing" problem with it though, unless there's significant doubt that we'll get to the end of June this year - it's a one year forward look - which de facto would need to say we'll make it through the next year (which ends June 2016...).

They might then have some debate around what to put in the June 2016 Account...but that's a different matter entirely.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Peter Thompson » Tue May 31, 2016 2:30 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:Do we know whether KA/DH have actually approached or sounded out Stubbs ?, if they have then Bruce may be correct about Rotherham being a better bet than us, but unless I've missed some article I can't think that I've seen anything suggesting that he's been approached or even sounded out by Bolton.
My guess, PT, is that we aren't even in a position to sound him out.
If that's because we would need to pay Hibs compensation then your probably right....but there is still a possibility that he's never been considered by KA/DH

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Tue May 31, 2016 2:51 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... wish_list/

The owners have identified the new signings for next season. And the managers they've met with were all 'nodding along'....

Anyhow, Anderson has told the Bolton News that he will have to invest his money in order to get the embargo lifted. So the fact he hasn't is the hold up in submitting accounts etc....

Sounds like they're laying football manager!

If every manager agreed that all the signings that DH&KA wanna sign, then they ain't the manager for us!
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue May 31, 2016 2:54 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... wish_list/

The owners have identified the new signings for next season. And the managers they've met with were all 'nodding along'....

Anyhow, Anderson has told the Bolton News that he will have to invest his money in order to get the embargo lifted. So the fact he hasn't is the hold up in submitting accounts etc....
You're still going to have to explain that one to me.

I don't get how Anderson putting money in, in June 2016, would affect a set of Accounts for the Financial period ending 30 June 2015? :conf:

I get how it might relate to the lifting of the embargo.

Wasn't it the future statement in the accounts that the previous board couldn't sign off as Eddie wasn't putting more money in so there was a blackhole? That was my understanding.
I guess that'd be a problem in that the Board at the time of the Accounts no longer exists, so they'd be struggling to give an opinion of going concern for 12 months ago. I'm missing the "ongoing" problem with it though, unless there's significant doubt that we'll get to the end of June this year - it's a one year forward look - which de facto would need to say we'll make it through the next year (which ends June 2016...).

They might then have some debate around what to put in the June 2016 Account...but that's a different matter entirely.
I suspect Anderson's money is required to get through till end of June. That is what those who went to court and followed proceedings closely seem to believe is the case.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue May 31, 2016 3:01 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote: I suspect Anderson's money is required to get through till end of June. That is what those who went to court and followed proceedings closely seem to believe is the case.
Forgot to mention - was chatting with a member of the steering group behind the supporters trust on Sunday morning. They appear to share your dim view of Mr Anderson.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue May 31, 2016 3:05 pm

plymouth wanderer wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/etc

The owners have identified the new signings for next season. And the managers they've met with were all 'nodding along'....
Sounds like they're laying football manager!

If every manager agreed that all the signings that DH&KA wanna sign, then they ain't the manager for us!
What if the players are genuinely good?

I have some concerns over the new leadership, but I'm glad we've got two blokes who know the game - and the transfer market. Much could go wrong, but I'm in favour of a chief exec who statistically analyses available players and a chairman who knows from experience how agents work. To me it seems much better than the previous model of being run by an increasingly unrealistic dreamer and an owner whose deep pockets were negated by suddenly shortened arms.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Worthy4England » Tue May 31, 2016 3:24 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... wish_list/

The owners have identified the new signings for next season. And the managers they've met with were all 'nodding along'....

Anyhow, Anderson has told the Bolton News that he will have to invest his money in order to get the embargo lifted. So the fact he hasn't is the hold up in submitting accounts etc....
You're still going to have to explain that one to me.

I don't get how Anderson putting money in, in June 2016, would affect a set of Accounts for the Financial period ending 30 June 2015? :conf:

I get how it might relate to the lifting of the embargo.

Wasn't it the future statement in the accounts that the previous board couldn't sign off as Eddie wasn't putting more money in so there was a blackhole? That was my understanding.
I guess that'd be a problem in that the Board at the time of the Accounts no longer exists, so they'd be struggling to give an opinion of going concern for 12 months ago. I'm missing the "ongoing" problem with it though, unless there's significant doubt that we'll get to the end of June this year - it's a one year forward look - which de facto would need to say we'll make it through the next year (which ends June 2016...).

They might then have some debate around what to put in the June 2016 Account...but that's a different matter entirely.
I suspect Anderson's money is required to get through till end of June. That is what those who went to court and followed proceedings closely seem to believe is the case.
In which case, you'd rather hope that Mr Anderson could see his way to a forward looking statement that say's "We'll make it through the next 12 months"!

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue May 31, 2016 3:29 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: I suspect Anderson's money is required to get through till end of June. That is what those who went to court and followed proceedings closely seem to believe is the case.
Forgot to mention - was chatting with a member of the steering group behind the supporters trust on Sunday morning. They appear to share your dim view of Mr Anderson.
I don't want to give the impression I have a dim view of him. Everyone gets a decent chance.

I have a dim view of the fact that months after the takeover our new owners haven't done anything of substance beyond sacking a manager. The accounts aren't submitted, embargo not lifted, manager not in place.....

The talk in the media is to me, sounding like a lot of hot air. And the rumours about rifts, fallings out and money are in my view far from baseless.

I know Bobo will be along to do the 'worried' meme but I'm not even worried. Just a bit frustrated that we may throw away yet another summer and pre season and go in underprepared yet again.

Anderson has said he hasn't invested his money yet because it isn't needed. But then conceded it is needed to get out of embargo, isn't getting out of embargo fairly urgent? I mean it isn't like the day he puts it in we get out, we still need the league to sign off on the paperwork which could take several weeks and perhaps some persuasion.

I don't care who is in charge, Anderson or Deano or Eddie Davies, whoever, so long as they are getting the club into some sort of decent shape. Since they took ownership in March I see very little tangible evidence that we are any better prepared for next season than we were the week before they arrived.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by officer_dibble » Tue May 31, 2016 6:50 pm

Steve Evans now available.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue May 31, 2016 7:46 pm

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Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: I suspect Anderson's money is required to get through till end of June. That is what those who went to court and followed proceedings closely seem to believe is the case.
Forgot to mention - was chatting with a member of the steering group behind the supporters trust on Sunday morning. They appear to share your dim view of Mr Anderson.
Hardly surprising, they wanted to buy the club and missed out. Don't get me wrong I'm fairly suspicious of KA at this stage with his stating one thing in interviews, then claiming the opposite a few weeks later like the managerial shortlist; but I'd be surprised if a member of the steering committee of a trust that couldn't assemble a formal bid in time didn't feel a bit 'put out' as it were.

Speaking of which, have they actually done anything that a supporters trust should be doing? Like electing a steering committee democratically (assuming it's still those temporary appointments from the beginning of the year), or explaining what is happening with the membership fees? It's something I really want to get on board with but, being honest, it's as clear as mud. I still have no idea who half of these committee members are or why they were selected.
We're in the same boat, Chief. My 'friend' was imploring me to sign up for £10 but was a little sketchy when I asked what the money was being used for. Apparently it is still the plan to force Anderson and Holdsworth out and to take control of the club. I'm assured that they're all (the steering group that is) working like Billy-Oh behind the scenes, but to what end I've no idea.
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by LeverEnd » Tue May 31, 2016 9:05 pm

Anyway, Steve Evans is up for grabs.
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Post by twilight » Tue May 31, 2016 9:32 pm

LeverEnd wrote:Anyway, Steve Evans is up for grabs.
There's a lot to grab!
I thought while I'd been away these two ditherers in charge would have employed a Manager by now. I'm bored of reading about what Anderson is doing/not doing * (delete as appropriate). They should just stick with Reid for now and try to get their home in order.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue May 31, 2016 9:32 pm

That's handy, considering *someone* is being interviewed tomorrow.

Alan Stubbs is said to have got Evans's old job at Rotherham, which helps us by closing another employment opportunity for the managers we might be chasing. I know there's a job open at Leeds now but it's worth it if it frees up Evans for interview. It would help (and be funny) if Blackburn appointed Coyle.

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Post by LeverEnd » Tue May 31, 2016 9:47 pm

twilight wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:Anyway, Steve Evans is up for grabs.
There's a lot to grab!
I thought while I'd been away these two ditherers in charge would have employed a Manager by now. I'm bored of reading about what Anderson is doing/not doing * (delete as appropriate). They should just stick with Reid for now and try to get their home in order.
I'll leave that to you and your feminine charms. He can be your new Mjalby!
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LeverEnd wrote:
twilight wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:Anyway, Steve Evans is up for grabs.
There's a lot to grab!
I thought while I'd been away these two ditherers in charge would have employed a Manager by now. I'm bored of reading about what Anderson is doing/not doing * (delete as appropriate). They should just stick with Reid for now and try to get their home in order.
I'll leave that to you and your feminine charms. He can be your new Mjalby!
Err no thank you, I'll pass on that one!

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