The Debt.

[jonnycooper]

Le I believe that Holdsworth is just a puppet to appease the Club and its fans! I,m guessing that once any takeover is completed that Dean will become a director.We,ll find out soon enough but I'm surprised that no-one else is in the frame as being part of his Consortium!

In a few short weeks,Deano will have gone from,non league Manager to Championship Club owner,with Premier League facilities!!! Something doesn't sit right....

[TANGODANCER]

Alderley Edge - sorry if its a stupid question,Tango, but were you referring to Orbit? That's where its registered.

Pure coincidence mate since I know nothing about Orbit or whatever. Years ago I worked for a security firm that patrolled the money folks' mansions in the Alderley Edge area, that's all I know. It was widely accepted as the stockbroker belt.

[jonnycooper]

A quick Google search of,The Retreat,406 Roding lane south,Woodford Green,reveals that 272 companies have been set up using this address! All a bit interesting!Methinks it is a p.o box,address or somesuch!

[Andy Waller]

My main fear is the Club will be asset stripped over the next year or 2!! Then be back in the brown stuff and looking for a new buyer with only players and BWFC name remaining liquid! I so hope I'm completely wrong,but it is a major worry!

If you've got a scenario involving a stripper with huge assets then Holdsworth's probably going to have an massive interest...

[boltonboris]

My main fear is the Club will be asset stripped over the next year or 2!! Then be back in the brown stuff and looking for a new buyer with only players and BWFC name remaining liquid! I so hope I'm completely wrong,but it is a major worry!

If you've got a scenario involving a stripper with huge assets then Holdsworth's probably going to have an massive interest...

[BWFC_Insane]

The man who owns the Middlebrook retail park is apparently one of the backers behind Holdsworth's bid. He is worth hundreds of millions so I hear. And it is he who apparently paid staff wages yesterday.

None of this is confirmed but this morning Iles says "he would be surprised if this information is wrong".

IF this is true it suggests a deal must be fairly close and that also the Holdsworth bid may have some serious players behind it. I've heard rumours of other similarly rich backers involved.

Hope springs eternal and all that. Hopefully January brings more concrete good news.

[thebish]

The man who owns the Middlebrook retail park is apparently one of the backers behind Holdsworth's bid. He is worth hundreds of millions so I hear. And it is he who apparently paid staff wages yesterday.

None of this is confirmed but this morning Iles says "he would be surprised if this information is wrong".

IF this is true it suggests a deal must be fairly close and that also the Holdsworth bid may have some serious players behind it. I've heard rumours of other similarly rich backers involved.

Hope springs eternal and all that. Hopefully January brings more concrete good news.

have you figured out an answer to your despairing question - why on earth would anyone ever buy us?

[thebish]

One thing, in my mind, is certain .... a deal will be done. Maybe not to be bought by Sheiks with trouserless bottoms. Maybe not a Far Eastern megalomaniac. It may not be enough to sweep us back to the land of plenty. I hope very much it's not a bunch of shyster & chancers, ... though that IS a fear.

But a deal WILL be done. We will finish the season as an operating entity. We will finish dozens and dozens more seasons. Bolton Wanderers WILL continue to thrill us, to disappoint us, to consume our interest and emotion. We will still be "THE one & only Wanderers".

We will.

or in other words... it'll be reet. #trustintrev #trustint'rev

[thebish]

My main fear is the Club will be asset stripped over the next year or 2!! Then be back in the brown stuff and looking for a new buyer with only players and BWFC name remaining liquid! I so hope I'm completely wrong,but it is a major worry!

If you've got a scenario involving a stripper with huge assets then Holdsworth's probably going to have an massive interest...

ha!! bravo!!

[BWFC_Insane]

The man who owns the Middlebrook retail park is apparently one of the backers behind Holdsworth's bid. He is worth hundreds of millions so I hear. And it is he who apparently paid staff wages yesterday.

None of this is confirmed but this morning Iles says "he would be surprised if this information is wrong".

IF this is true it suggests a deal must be fairly close and that also the Holdsworth bid may have some serious players behind it. I've heard rumours of other similarly rich backers involved.

Hope springs eternal and all that. Hopefully January brings more concrete good news.

have you figured out an answer to your despairing question - why on earth would anyone ever buy us?

I will wait and see what happens first, nothing is confirmed yet. Secondly what happens IF they do takeover. It doesn't make much business sense to support the club in the way Eddie was. And if these are business people I can't see that being their aim. But time will tell.

[thebish]

imagine... just imagine for a moment... if we'd only had the football to talk about for the last six weeks!!

none of you glum panic fannies will even dent my eternal optimism!!

it looks like we MAY have found some solvent purchasers with the needed cash - and one of them seems to have shown very good faith with cash up front - we haven't merely offloaded to the first bloke who asked - we've taken our time - we've brought in someone who definitely knows what he's doing rather than leave it to the Warbies - YET - now it's all doom and gloom that they want asset-strip us???

give yer heads a shake!

it'll be reet!

[Worthy4England]

The man who owns the Middlebrook retail park is apparently one of the backers behind Holdsworth's bid. He is worth hundreds of millions so I hear. And it is he who apparently paid staff wages yesterday.

None of this is confirmed but this morning Iles says "he would be surprised if this information is wrong".

IF this is true it suggests a deal must be fairly close and that also the Holdsworth bid may have some serious players behind it. I've heard rumours of other similarly rich backers involved.

Hope springs eternal and all that. Hopefully January brings more concrete good news.

have you figured out an answer to your despairing question - why on earth would anyone ever buy us?

I will wait and see what happens first, nothing is confirmed yet. Secondly what happens IF they do takeover. It doesn't make much business sense to support the club in the way Eddie was. And if these are business people I can't see that being their aim. But time will tell.

Maybe this is part of why ED has been "dragging his feet" - If I sold an elephant to a zoo keeper, I'd not expect it to end up in his shed at home...

[Gudnib]

Alderley Edge - sorry if its a stupid question,Tango, but were you referring to Orbit? That's where its registered.

Pure coincidence mate since I know nothing about Orbit or whatever. Years ago I worked for a security firm that patrolled the money folks' mansions in the Alderley Edge area, that's all I know. It was widely accepted as the stockbroker belt.

I haven't a lot of info but Orbit were partners of BWFC in the development of the Reebok and seem to have other significant interests in the Middlebrook including an office there. But the sale and lease back of part of the car park about six months ago for £5.5million was reported to be with Prescot Business Parks, on the face of it a much smaller outfit with a registered office on Chorley New Road.
Raising money from BWFC's property interests seems to be the key to potential survival and may be the lure for would be owners.
It would be interesting to know who owned the Middlebrook but the demise of the club might reduce the value of the estate. I can't envisage visiting bars or shops at the Middlebrook if BWFC wasn't there.

[Jugs]

imagine... just imagine for a moment... if we'd only had the football to talk about for the last six weeks!!

Oh God, mulling over 1 win in 29 games! How depressing would that have been!

I'm so glad we've also been able to mull over whether our club will even exist in a few weeks too

[thebish]

imagine... just imagine for a moment... if we'd only had the football to talk about for the last six weeks!!

Oh God, mulling over 1 win in 29 games! How depressing would that have been!

I'm so glad we've also been able to mull over whether our club will even exist in a few weeks too

that's the spirit!!

actually - glass half-empty/half-full... summat needed to change - we have known that for years... such seismic change - the ownership of a club - rarely comes without some kind of perilous brinkmanship...

the forum hasn't been as busy as this for a while!

[Gudnib]

'Perilous brinkmanship' for sure but its also beginning to look like death by a thousand cuts for Eddie.
Rumours are that talks may involve the Emerson Group (which includes Orbit Developments and Jones Homes)
No reason to think that there will be BWFC sentiment in their dealings. Their interest is property not football so its complicated but there may be enough commercial interest to cut some sort of deal.
Lets hope so anyway.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I'm not averse to the odd bout of pessimism, but to be lumped in with the grouping 'glum panic fannies' is an insult too far. At worst you can categorise me as 'a slightly sad panic fanny'. I need some sort of emoticon which sums that up.

[thebish]

I'm not averse to the odd bout of pessimism, but to be lumped in with the grouping 'glum panic fannies' is an insult too far. At worst you can categorise me as 'a slightly sad panic fanny'. I need some sort of emoticon which sums that up.

any such lumping or categorising you did for yourself!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I'm not averse to the odd bout of pessimism, but to be lumped in with the grouping 'glum panic fannies' is an insult too far. At worst you can categorise me as 'a slightly sad panic fanny'. I need some sort of emoticon which sums that up.

any such lumping or categorising you did for yourself!

Well us panic fannies have got to stick together, but like autistics we're a broad spectrum.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Anybody bought us yet?