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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Burnden Paddock » Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:32 pm

Rumours from Rovers fans on FB that Coyle has got their job. I do hope so! :lol: :pissed:

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Enoch » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:32 am

CrazyHorse wrote:Best man by far for our situation.
Well anyone that thinks our situation doesn't call for desperate measures ain't fully awake.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:15 am

CrazyHorse wrote:Not pissed. Been thinking it for a while but didn't want to suggest it.

Best man by far for our situation.
You think he's going to get everyone pulling in the right direction? They'll need to close some of the lower tiers if they bring him back.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by CrazyHorse » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:15 am

Yup. It'd end up being horrific again under him no doubt. But we need someone who knows what the fook they're doing.

Besides, looking at that list of names on the other thread that are being genuinely discussed, frankly anyone who thinks I'm mad for suggesting Megson wants their bumps feeling.
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:47 am

Gary Megson - 98 matches 27.55% win %
Owen Coyle - 126 matches 33.33% win %
Dougie Freedman - 100 matches 34% win %
Neil Lennon - 79 matches 22.78% win %

I know win percentage isn't everything, but the above Bolton career win percentages, in conjunction with his relationship with fans and not having worked for 4 years, tell me Megson isn't the answer. Throw in the fact we're division 3 without a pot to piss in and a squad devoid of any sort of winning mentality, then mix that with owners that seem to be pulling in different directions and one of them I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw him; I think adding Megson to the mix would be a disaster.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by jimbo » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:20 am

Yeah but megson's 27% was in the prem and was relatively consistent through his time here.
Both coyle and freedman spent a good while in the championship and started really well before huge barren streaks eventually led to their dismissal. Would be interesting what each of their win percentages excluding their first 12 months were.

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:32 am

A few months prior we were a top 8 Premiership side, with a Premiership size budget and squad/facilities etc. He didn't get the most out of what he had, which is exactly what we need now.

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Post by Rjs37 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:40 am

jimbo wrote:Yeah but megson's 27% was in the prem and was relatively consistent through his time here.
Both coyle and freedman spent a good while in the championship and started really well before huge barren streaks eventually led to their dismissal. Would be interesting what each of their win percentages excluding their first 12 months were.
Coyle only spent a couple of months in the Championship - got sacked in October. The majority of his time was in the Premiership too. Not that I'd want him back mind.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:17 am

Burnden Paddock wrote:Rumours from Rovers fans on FB that Coyle has got their job. I do hope so! :lol: :pissed:
Our Bean Counter's just regaled me of this. I do hope so :lol:
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Post by Gary the Enfield » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:26 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Burnden Paddock wrote:Rumours from Rovers fans on FB that Coyle has got their job. I do hope so! :lol: :pissed:
Our Bean Counter's just regaled me of this. I do hope so :lol:

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Post by Worthy4England » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:37 am

I think you need to look at win% in the context of draw % and loss % too

Megson 46%
Coyle 48%
Freedman 34%
Lennon 44%

Bottom line is how many ppg you're accumulating. ;-)

Lennon - 1.01
Freedman - 1.34
Coyle - 1.19
Megson - 1.09
Allardyce - 1.52 (For reference)...

At those rates, all but Lennon would generally keep us in the Prem - and Lennon's would be borderline, but, it rather belies that some good seasons might outweigh one bad one, and one bad one takes you down.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Hoboh » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:18 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:I suppose it's symptomatic of the current game but it still shocks me when I hear of directors, owners whatever, identifying which players they want for the new season. Leave that to the bloody manager. I can't imagine Rioch working like that.
Yeah but Rioch was a product of a different age, when alcohol was encouraged and he sent Jason McAteer over the road for the lunchtime pies. Pies!

Loved Bruce to bits, still do, and I'd love us to hire another of his type (stern but protectively patriarchal, wants attacking football) but things have moved on a bit. Remember that if the situation were the same he'd have been trusting the Warbies, whereas we have football men (ex-player, ex-agent) so it's not a like-for-like comparison. Recruitment in those days was phoning fellow managers asking who was available (for them and elsewhere), then sending some old guy in a flat cap to watch people in the reserves. Now there are videos of literally thousands of players worldwide - and I don't mean YouTube clipreels, I mean 90-minute footage following them round and available via interfaces that let you examine his tackling/heading/clearances or whatever your criteria. I've seen the Wyscout system (others are available) and it's terrifyingly in-depth; it's not possible for one man to do it alone, especially when he's also supposed to be taking training, picking the team etc etc. It's fine by me if Deano wants to get involved in player suggestion; what would be more worrying is if the manager isn't allowed a say at all, but has there been any indication at all that that would be the truth?
Sorry DSB but agent, a football person??
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:38 am

Hoboh wrote:Sorry DSB but agent, a football person??
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by officer_dibble » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:57 pm

Well its not coyle!

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:06 pm

officer_dibble wrote:Well its not coyle!
Talk about ignoring recent failures: three jobs in a row he's buggered up. I bear him no ill will, but it'd be funny if he makes it four. #clapclap

Meanwhile Lennon might be slipping into Stubbs's still-warm seat, so to speak. Maybe he said "I have experience of taking a team out of the second tier."

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Prufrock » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:28 pm

Aha that's the best news I've heard in ages! Nice one, Owen.
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by LeverEnd » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:17 pm

Prufrock wrote:Aha that's the best news I've heard in ages! Nice one, Owen.
Rovers supporting Facebook friend is genuinely upset. Almost stopped laughing for a minute.
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by twilight » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:18 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Aha that's the best news I've heard in ages! Nice one, Owen.
Rovers supporting Facebook friend is genuinely upset. Almost stopped laughing for a minute.
Might just be playing Rovers in the 2017/18 season then....

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:30 pm

twilight wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Aha that's the best news I've heard in ages! Nice one, Owen.
Rovers supporting Facebook friend is genuinely upset. Almost stopped laughing for a minute.
Might just be playing Rovers in the 2017/18 season then....
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Post by plymouth wanderer » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:50 pm

twilight wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Aha that's the best news I've heard in ages! Nice one, Owen.
Rovers supporting Facebook friend is genuinely upset. Almost stopped laughing for a minute.
Might just be playing Rovers in the 2017/18 season then....

they getting relegated twice in one season are they?
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