Prawn Sandwiches aren't Posh any more. At Home to Peterborough Sat, Oct 26th 3-o'clcock.

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Re: Prawn Sandwiches aren't Posh any more. At Home to Peterborough Sat, Oct 26th 3-o'clcock.

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:47 pm

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Darren Ferguson has seriously tried to suggest the goal shouldn’t be allowed as he was told the penalty would be the ‘last kick of the game’. So I think he’s trying to say the ref should have blown up when it was saved. Seriously?
It's an interesting point, if it's not for or against your team. Certainly a corner, they wouldn't wait for the move to complete, iirc?
Clive Thomas got in all sorts of trouble at Argentina for blowing full time as a corner came in. Seconds later Brazil scored from it and would have beaten Sweden had Thomas not blown his whistle. Since then it's been common sense to let the move progress. You hardly ever get a final whistle now when the ball's not in the middle third of the pitch.

I was slightly surprised we were allowed to take the corner but as if the ref's going to blow his whistle when either (1) Dion is diving full-length to head the first save or (2) there's about six people in the six-yard box bundling it over the line.

The Fergusons have had enough joy in overtime. They can frig off.

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Post by Worthy4England » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:05 pm

Oh I'm not suggesting we give 'em a point so we get two each! :-)

But I reckon the whistle should go when it's due...

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Post by DJBlu » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:08 pm

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Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:05 pm
Oh I'm not suggesting we give 'em a point so we get two each! :-)

But I reckon the whistle should go when it's due...
Should've gone too when Santos was pulled over in a similar incident.

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Post by Mar » Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:19 pm

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Darren Ferguson has seriously tried to suggest the goal shouldn’t be allowed as he was told the penalty would be the ‘last kick of the game’. So I think he’s trying to say the ref should have blown up when it was saved. Seriously?
He can f**k off, come back again and f**k off again

And he can take his self-obsessed chairman with him for company, they deserve each other
The number of delayed stoppage tactics they deployed from the 20 min mark deserve the extra time. They were time wasting and going down with cramp to delay subs. Screw them. They knew what they were doing and had they not done that it'd have finished earlier.

We all saw the 98 min standard when they actually started counting properly so today's time shouldn't be a shock.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:07 pm

One very obvious element today was the absences of Dempsey and Thomason who were both seriously missed. . Neither are afraid to shoot or attack the box and that's something we badly need. Collins and McAtee can both head and shoot, but neither are skilled ball players.

Ref the result, Yes, it's a bad way to lose and we would have been just as up in arms had the situation been reversed. That we were the better side was obvious but we didn't assert our authority until it was almost too late. We got the points, so let's move on now. :oyea:

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Post by officer_dibble » Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:24 pm

You make up injuries and play the keeper has cramp card you get what you fecking deserve. There was easily 10 minutes on today, we scored on 98. feck em. feck Ferguson.

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Post by Prufrock » Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:32 pm

A Ferguson has lost badly you say? Never. I hope senior had brought evra along to run down memory lane.

What actually happened with the winner by the way? Pen saved and a scramble that ended up in? Imagine blowing the whistle mid way through that. Behave :D
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Post by Prufrock » Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:35 pm

feck it just watched. Love:

A) how much hard work of it Dion made.

B) fergie junior kicking off

C) it going in on 98+ while sky says "+6" (obvs that was decided before the pen and they take ages); and,

D)Southwood in the pile. Yes please.
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Post by Prufrock » Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:36 pm

Lolos indeed. I Lolossed.
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Post by Worthy4England » Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:11 am

DJBlu wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:08 pm
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Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:05 pm
Oh I'm not suggesting we give 'em a point so we get two each! :-)

But I reckon the whistle should go when it's due...
Should've gone too when Santos was pulled over in a similar incident.
Yeah, think that's fair, mate.

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Post by Mar » Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:15 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:11 am
DJBlu wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:08 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:05 pm
Oh I'm not suggesting we give 'em a point so we get two each! :-)

But I reckon the whistle should go when it's due...
Should've gone too when Santos was pulled over in a similar incident.
Yeah, think that's fair, mate.
I agree the whistle should go when its due. The trouble is that would mean we have a good 10 minutes of stoppage after each game because when the ball is out of play, they should be taking that into account for stoppages. So the alternative is to tack on time for players being down injured instead of players taking their time over throw ins.

Personally I like the stop clock approach they do in the NFL. Ball out of play, timer paused. At the moment, our current way of working doesn't exact make it clear that the time we get post game is a fair reflection of whats gone on.

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Post by officer_dibble » Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:22 am

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Lolos indeed. I Lolossed.
:pissed: :laugh: Didn’t we all!

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:34 am

Worthy4England wrote:
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Darren Ferguson has seriously tried to suggest the goal shouldn’t be allowed as he was told the penalty would be the ‘last kick of the game’. So I think he’s trying to say the ref should have blown up when it was saved. Seriously?
It's an interesting point, if it's not for or against your team. Certainly a corner, they wouldn't wait for the move to complete, iirc?
I’d have the tiniest modicum of sympathy with him if he’d just said they played quite a bit of time over the allotted 6 minutes. Not a lot because his side spent most of the second half time wasting. However a referee accounts for that theoretically in added time. So not sure where the extra came from. But whatever.

To suggest he should blow up once the keeper saves the penalty is a bit ridiculous though. Never happening.

I’d be absolutely sick if we lost a game in those sort of circumstances - but generally they only have themselves to blame. Don’t commit the fouls in the box they did.

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Post by officer_dibble » Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:45 am

And don’t time waste. It’s always “a minimum of x minutes”. They made a sub just on 89/90 I think so that was designed to eat into time and not be picked up. The ref, and this would be unique, may have had his own time wasting count going in his head. There was more than 6 minutes of that I reckon.

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Post by DJBlu » Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:54 am

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And don’t time waste. It’s always “a minimum of x minutes”. They made a sub just on 89/90 I think so that was designed to eat into time and not be picked up. The ref, and this would be unique, may have had his own time wasting count going in his head. There was more than 6 minutes of that I reckon.
They can whine all they want, just watched the start of injury time. They start it with the sub of Randell, takes 27 seconds, their player goes down after a block and takes an age to get up delaying the corner, 20 seconds. Their keeper twice takes 20+ seconds to take a goal kick and a kick out of his hands after acting like a basket ball player so there's a minute and a half. That's up to the 94 mins 30 second mark.

If they want to complain about the referee then we saw both Santos and Dion dragged to the floor in the box, he got it right eventually on the third one. So if we want to be pedantic we're owed two more penalties.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:08 am

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And don’t time waste. It’s always “a minimum of x minutes”. They made a sub just on 89/90 I think so that was designed to eat into time and not be picked up. The ref, and this would be unique, may have had his own time wasting count going in his head. There was more than 6 minutes of that I reckon.
Agreed though if we were sat away at Birmingham in those circumstances we’d be doing exactly the same thing and would feel aggrieved with 9 minutes or whatever. I mean we did in the premiership frequently feel aggrieved in similar scenarios.

I just think he had a tiny point but made it in the most ridiculous of ways.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:45 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:08 am
officer_dibble wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:45 am
And don’t time waste. It’s always “a minimum of x minutes”. They made a sub just on 89/90 I think so that was designed to eat into time and not be picked up. The ref, and this would be unique, may have had his own time wasting count going in his head. There was more than 6 minutes of that I reckon.
Agreed though if we were sat away at Birmingham in those circumstances we’d be doing exactly the same thing and would feel aggrieved with 9 minutes or whatever. I mean we did in the premiership frequently feel aggrieved in similar scenarios.

I just think he had a tiny point but made it in the most ridiculous of ways.
He has a tiny something... :lol:

No, I agree in one way - of course we'd be aggrieved - but I also agree that if we're going to have clearly delineated timings then let's have a proper stop-clock and we matchgoing fans can get our money's worth, if quantity if not quality. As usual the authorities tried it for about three months before backsliding (see also: arguing with referees, punishing tugging at corners, etc and so on).

The fact there was so much added time at the end of added time is a tribute to how much Peterborough were trying to kill the game. It nearly worked for them. Let me reach for my violin.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:51 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:45 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:08 am
officer_dibble wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:45 am
And don’t time waste. It’s always “a minimum of x minutes”. They made a sub just on 89/90 I think so that was designed to eat into time and not be picked up. The ref, and this would be unique, may have had his own time wasting count going in his head. There was more than 6 minutes of that I reckon.
Agreed though if we were sat away at Birmingham in those circumstances we’d be doing exactly the same thing and would feel aggrieved with 9 minutes or whatever. I mean we did in the premiership frequently feel aggrieved in similar scenarios.

I just think he had a tiny point but made it in the most ridiculous of ways.
He has a tiny something... :lol:

No, I agree in one way - of course we'd be aggrieved - but I also agree that if we're going to have clearly delineated timings then let's have a proper stop-clock and we matchgoing fans can get our money's worth, if quantity if not quality. As usual the authorities tried it for about three months before backsliding (see also: arguing with referees, punishing tugging at corners, etc and so on).

The fact there was so much added time at the end of added time is a tribute to how much Peterborough were trying to kill the game. It nearly worked for them. Let me reach for my violin.
I don’t see why we can’t go back to where it was last season where they added the actual requisite time back on at the end. Rather than where we are now where they clearly roughly decide on a scale from 2-8 minutes based on normal games. Last season they’d add the real amount on. They did it for about 4 weeks then gave up. I don’t see why.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:12 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
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I don’t see why we can’t go back to where it was last season where they added the actual requisite time back on at the end. Rather than where we are now where they clearly roughly decide on a scale from 2-8 minutes based on normal games. Last season they’d add the real amount on. They did it for about 4 weeks then gave up. I don’t see why.
As I say - they (the authorities) can, and they talk a good game, then everything just slides back to normal. Which in a way is worse as they've acknowledged there's a problem, started doing something about it, then let it happen again.

Like when they punished dissent at free kicks with a 10-yard advance for the kicker. Dissent dropped notably. Then they cancelled it*. Dissent rose again.

*The only possible reason was that defending teams would argue about free kicks say 25 yards out so it became harder for the kicker if he got had to kick from the 18-yard line. Simple remedy: let the attacker advance the ball *up to* 10 yards, at their choosing. But hey-ho.

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