The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

[LeverEnd]

With or without that money, we should be in for Spearing at that price.

Nixon has said Dougie wants Spearing but on loan.

When asked why Dougie wasn't in for a buy he said 'Dougie doesn't write the cheques'.

Guessing Eddie Davies doesn't want to spend on a fee and big wages for Spearing.

I thought he was willing to back him with some cash, as he didn't spend much last year and got some big earners off the books.
I can't for the life of me think why he wouldn't sign him at that price, and find it impossible to believe that JS would rather play for those nutters than us.
Gutted if he joins them, huge mistake.
I like the look of Medo and hope for the best as far as Holden is concerned but if they end up injured at the same time who fills in? When Spearing was out we missed him badly.

[ChrisC]

With or without that money, we should be in for Spearing at that price.

Nixon has said Dougie wants Spearing but on loan.

When asked why Dougie wasn't in for a buy he said 'Dougie doesn't write the cheques'.

Guessing Eddie Davies doesn't want to spend on a fee and big wages for Spearing.

I thought he was willing to back him with some cash, as he didn't spend much last year and got some big earners off the books.
I can't for the life of me think why he wouldn't sign him at that price, and find it impossible to believe that JS would rather play for those nutters than us.
Gutted if he joins them, huge mistake.
I like the look of Medo and hope for the best as far as Holden is concerned but if they end up injured at the same time who fills in? When Spearing was out we missed him badly.

We will have to wait and see on this, but maybe Dougie is saving the money for the forward? Possibly Rhodes?

[borgetti_wanderers]

Wheater is a very good defender probably one of the better ones of recent years, Ream is a dud and just generally sh*t, Knightmare is the worst player our club has ever had IMO.

If you think that Zat Knight is worse than Gerald Cid, Ariza Makukula and Gregorzs Rasiak then you need your head wobbling!

[BWFC_Insane]

With or without that money, we should be in for Spearing at that price.

Nixon has said Dougie wants Spearing but on loan.

When asked why Dougie wasn't in for a buy he said 'Dougie doesn't write the cheques'.

Guessing Eddie Davies doesn't want to spend on a fee and big wages for Spearing.

I thought he was willing to back him with some cash, as he didn't spend much last year and got some big earners off the books.
I can't for the life of me think why he wouldn't sign him at that price, and find it impossible to believe that JS would rather play for those nutters than us.
Gutted if he joins them, huge mistake.
I like the look of Medo and hope for the best as far as Holden is concerned but if they end up injured at the same time who fills in? When Spearing was out we missed him badly.

Based on what Nixon says there isn't any money other than for the Rhodes bid. So either they are saving it all for that or ED is only prepared to finance certain deals that he thinks he'll get his dosh back from?

[Bijou Bob]

Knight gets far too much stick for my money. He's nowhere near as bad as some folk make out and for me had quite a decent season last time out.

However, that wasn't my point. This thread has been almost entirely about us buying players. It's been some time since we were a club with no out and out stars to sell and for me, it's indicative of where we have dropped to in terms of our scouting and purchasing abilities and strategy. We've always had a Macateer, a Frandsen, a Ricketts or a Cahill. I'm not sure that CYL or Eagles fit into that category or that any of our purchases so far will ever reach that level (Mido perhaps being the one exception). I find that worrying and also a little sad.

[LeverEnd]

Based on what Nixon says there isn't any money other than for the Rhodes bid. So either they are saving it all for that or ED is only prepared to finance certain deals that he thinks he'll get his dosh back from?

He's young, experienced at Championship level and higher, and will surely be worth more than that if he helps us up, at least no less if he doesn't.
I really don't understand it, unless Dougie had written it off and has someone else lined up. Can't see us doing any better than Jay though without spending big.
Not convinced abouyt the Rhodes thing, really can't see that happening. Hope I'm wrong.

[Athers]

I've never listened to the Rhodes chatter but the only way it could work might result in one of the infamous "Player success fees" which we've seen before.

Of course if he does his ACL on day one.....

[LeverEnd]

Knight gets far too much stick for my money. He's nowhere near as bad as some folk make out and for me had quite a decent season last time out.

However, that wasn't my point. This thread has been almost entirely about us buying players. It's been some time since we were a club with no out and out stars to sell and for me, it's indicative of where we have dropped to in terms of our scouting and purchasing abilities and strategy. We've always had a Macateer, a Frandsen, a Ricketts or a Cahill. I'm not sure that CYL or Eagles fit into that category or that any of our purchases so far will ever reach that level (Mido perhaps being the one exception). I find that worrying and also a little sad.

I think the strategy is to reduce wages and start producing these players again, and I'm confident that under Dougie we will. He has a track record already of doing this at Palace as coach and then manager. Coyle on the other hand talked about developing young players and only did it for other clubs while signing average players with no sell on value, hence the predicament that you describe.

[BWFC_Insane]

Based on what Nixon says there isn't any money other than for the Rhodes bid. So either they are saving it all for that or ED is only prepared to finance certain deals that he thinks he'll get his dosh back from?

He's young, experienced at Championship level and higher, and will surely be worth more than that if he helps us up, at least no less if he doesn't.
I really don't understand it, unless Dougie had written it off and has someone else lined up. Can't see us doing any better than Jay though without spending big.
Not convinced abouyt the Rhodes thing, really can't see that happening. Hope I'm wrong.

Perhaps Eddie thinks that steady, battlers in midfield won't give him much interest on his investment?

I don't know. Or perhaps the transfer fee coupled with wages are seen as too big for what Spearing offers? Perhaps Dougie would rather have a crack at Rhodes with all his resources available?

Financial fair play rules also play a part I guess in decisions now.

[borgetti_wanderers]

Freedman has realised that you can get players like Medo, who is a very similar type of player as Spearing but is maybe/potentially better than him for half the transfer fee and half the wages.

[Lord Kangana]

Nixon also said the Beckford deal would be complete last Tuesday. And on Thursday and Friday and Saturday. And that he'd chill on Sunday.

Of course eventually he will sign and folk'll be all giving it large about how Nixon was bang on again. Again.

It feels like theres only me and you in the world that see these Emperors New Clothes for what they are.

Frustrating, isn't it?

[BWFC_Insane]

What's frustrating is that nobody can provide any examples of what he's supposed to have been wrong about!

[Armchair Wanderer]

Based on what Nixon says there isn't any money other than for the Rhodes bid. So either they are saving it all for that or ED is only prepared to finance certain deals that he thinks he'll get his dosh back from?

He's young, experienced at Championship level and higher, and will surely be worth more than that if he helps us up, at least no less if he doesn't.
I really don't understand it, unless Dougie had written it off and has someone else lined up. Can't see us doing any better than Jay though without spending big.
Not convinced abouyt the Rhodes thing, really can't see that happening. Hope I'm wrong.

Perhaps Eddie thinks that steady, battlers in midfield won't give him much interest on his investment?

I don't know. Or perhaps the transfer fee coupled with wages are seen as too big for what Spearing offers? Perhaps Dougie would rather have a crack at Rhodes with all his resources available?

Financial fair play rules also play a part I guess in decisions now.

Ideally you'd want to spend the $$ on the skill positions and fill in the gaps with people who can do a job... isn't that how it works?

Dawson might fit the analogy because he scores goals too, but generally speaking your defensive-minded players are exactly the type that Dougie's been getting.

[boltonboris]

That's because he doesn't commit himself to anything other than what's in the public domain. Then if there's a chance it's not happening, he comes up with a myriad of reasons behind it.

He'll start off with

"Bolton in for a striker"

then everyone speculates and starts to name possible names. When it gets into the public domain, he'll say

"bid lodged for x striker. Watch this space.. Still a lot of work to be done"

Then if it comes off everyone lauds it. If it doesn't, then all he's said is that a bid has been lodged. Nowt else. he's quite clever about it. Never fully commits to anything.

[BWFC_Insane]

That's because he doesn't commit himself to anything other than what's in the public domain. Then if there's a chance it's not happening, he comes up with a myriad of reasons behind it.

He'll start off with

"Bolton in for a striker"

then everyone speculates and starts to name possible names. When it gets into the public domain, he'll say

"bid lodged for x striker. Watch this space.. Still a lot of work to be done"

Then if it comes off everyone lauds it. If it doesn't, then all he's said is that a bid has been lodged. Nowt else. he's quite clever about it. Never fully commits to anything.

On twitter yeah. But he can't go into specifics can he? His articles where players are named have been spot on. Dougie has confirmed Beckford was in for signing.

Nixon was right about it a week or two before anyone else reported the Beckford interest.

Thing for anyone genuinely in the know on twitter is that they might hear of loads of 'potential targets' most won't happen for one reason or another, which is why he could hardly openly blab names at an early stage. Why he bothers with twitter at all is beyond me.

[Loyal White]

Would imagine that Spearing would want a decent crust on a weekly basis also.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Still not sure about betting the farm on a striker while letting a good defensive midfielder pass. I'm not saying Spearing is God's gift but our problems were at the back: only Derby, Peterborough and Bristol City kept fewer clean sheets than us (Wolves managed 9, the same as us). In contrast, only Cardiff drew fewer blanks than us: we scored in 39 of 46 league games, five more than Brighton and Hull.

For all the general improvement once Freedman got his feet under the table, there's a very significant correlation between diligent defence and Dawson's appearances: he started with the home win against Burnley the week after our league position bottomed out at Watford, and as soon as he left we shipped two goals again. I know Dawson's transfer may not be in our hands, but I would hate for him to become available but out of our price range because we'd bought a sixth forward.

[Enoch]

I confess I will be mightily surprised if Freedman doesn't further strengthen our defensive position before the off, a centre back and a defensive midfield at the very least.

Whether they are household names or not is a different matter, I'd be less surprised by more Kamara type additions than a Dawson or Spearing joining.

There are still a few I'd like to see move on and hopefully that's to come, but less than four weeks from kick off I'm certainly beginning to feel a little tingle.

[TKIZ!]

Just to make everyone's night, more from the Oracle's twinttererererrer feed:

Punter on twinttererer: The foreign attacker play striker and on the wing?
Oracle: Yes, two in one, buy one get one fee ..
Punter on twinterererer: Did he play in the U21 European Championships?
Oracle: Look. No more on this until it gets done

[bobo the clown]

Just to make everyone's night, more from the Oracle's twinttererererrer feed:

Punter on twinttererer: The foreign attacker play striker and on the wing?
Oracle: Yes, two in one, buy one get one fee ..
Punter on twinterererer: Did he play in the U21 European Championships?
Oracle: Look. No more on this until it gets done

So, apart from him getting stroppy, does that mean one player ... who can play both wing and striker ? ... or, a bit like the Frandsen/Johannsen deal we take one for a fee and get his mate with him.

Sorry, I don't do this Twitter malarkey.