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Post by thebish » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:09 pm

BoltonScott wrote:
East Lower wrote:It makes sense, unlike you. FACT.

You wouldn't have a club to support were it not for Gartside. Show some respect.
As if. What the f*ck has fat chops ever done for us

you mean... apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health?

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Post by David Lee's Hair » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:15 pm

I was enjoying the Kenny Huang rumour
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Post by SonsOfThunder » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:18 pm

CrazyHorse wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:
BoltonScott wrote:As if. What the f*ck has fat chops ever done for us
Wind your neck in mate. Otherwise your brief site membership will abruptly end.
Easy, hoss, our friend's new and might need to know the rules. Surely he can be as bonkers as he likes, as long as he's not offensive...?
Perhaps.
But then again I've not got all afternoon to keep tabs on him on the off chance he starts getting abusive. Which is why I've politely asked him to wind his neck in.

And he knows the rules because as a new member he's just read through & agreed to them just as the rest of us did when we signed up.
And even if he hasn't, there are a pretty general set of guidelines that run through all internet message boards. Mixed with a bit of common sense and basic decency most of these 'problem posters' should never arise. But obviously they do, because they're missing one or both of those two components.

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Post by P.O.S. » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:21 pm

SonsOfThunder wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:
BoltonScott wrote:As if. What the f*ck has fat chops ever done for us
Wind your neck in mate. Otherwise your brief site membership will abruptly end.
Easy, hoss, our friend's new and might need to know the rules. Surely he can be as bonkers as he likes, as long as he's not offensive...?
Perhaps.
But then again I've not got all afternoon to keep tabs on him on the off chance he starts getting abusive. Which is why I've politely asked him to wind his neck in.

And he knows the rules because as a new member he's just read through & agreed to them just as the rest of us did when we signed up.
And even if he hasn't, there are a pretty general set of guidelines that run through all internet message boards. Mixed with a bit of common sense and basic decency most of these 'problem posters' should never arise. But obviously they do, because they're missing one or both of those two components.
This is Nutasha we're talking about though...

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Post by Juewanderer » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:25 pm

SonsOfThunder wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:
BoltonScott wrote:As if. What the f*ck has fat chops ever done for us
Wind your neck in mate. Otherwise your brief site membership will abruptly end.
Easy, hoss, our friend's new and might need to know the rules. Surely he can be as bonkers as he likes, as long as he's not offensive...?
Perhaps.
But then again I've not got all afternoon to keep tabs on him on the off chance he starts getting abusive. Which is why I've politely asked him to wind his neck in.

And he knows the rules because as a new member he's just read through & agreed to them just as the rest of us did when we signed up.
And even if he hasn't, there are a pretty general set of guidelines that run through all internet message boards. Mixed with a bit of common sense and basic decency most of these 'problem posters' should never arise. But obviously they do, because they're missing one or both of those two components.
As i've already told him, there are other forums to satisfy his needs...if he wants to be offensive then he can do so on one of those.


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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:50 pm

Definitely a sampionship attempt at a wind up.
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Post by HMX » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:51 pm

Haha, I love this new guy. So much entertaining reading (allowing me to put off uni work)!

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Post by H. Pedersen » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:41 pm

Obviously this new guy is annoying but in fairness there was a three year period in which it seemed Gartside was either smoking crack or trying to bring the club down from the inside. Letting Allardyce go and then sniping with him in public, appointing Sammy Lee, appointing Megson then backing him with a relatively huge amount of money, it was a nightmare. Coyle looks like a good appointment but I fear the damage may already have been done; we'll see what happens in January.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:54 pm

H. Pedersen wrote:Obviously this new guy is annoying but in fairness there was a three year period in which it seemed Gartside was either smoking crack or trying to bring the club down from the inside. Letting Allardyce go and then sniping with him in public, appointing Sammy Lee, appointing Megson then backing him with a relatively huge amount of money, it was a nightmare. Coyle looks like a good appointment but I fear the damage may already have been done; we'll see what happens in January.
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Aye because Gartside went "Ok Sam off you pop, we've got far better here".

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Post by Worthy4England » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:55 pm

Anyone got a supply of bedsheets handy to send Scott?

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Post by thebish » Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:20 pm

H. Pedersen wrote:Obviously this new guy is annoying but in fairness there was a three year period in which it seemed Gartside was either smoking crack or trying to bring the club down from the inside. Letting Allardyce go and then sniping with him in public, appointing Sammy Lee, appointing Megson then backing him with a relatively huge amount of money, it was a nightmare. Coyle looks like a good appointment but I fear the damage may already have been done; we'll see what happens in January.

Lee was a cock-up - Meggo (arguably) did an emergency job....

but - "letting allardyce go"??? What would your strategy have been to keep Big Sam? (and why? - were our results not sliding down a skid-marked pan at the time he left?)


On balance - given our two European tours and consistent top 8 finishes - our looooooooooooooooooooong stay in the premiership considering our smallish crowds and consequently smallish budget and our lack of sex-appeal to draw big names - I'd say garty's reign has been phenomenally successful.

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Post by Gary the Enfield » Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:00 pm

H. Pedersen wrote:Obviously this new guy is annoying but in fairness there was a three year period in which it seemed Gartside was either smoking crack or trying to bring the club down from the inside. Letting Allardyce go and then sniping with him in public, appointing Sammy Lee, appointing Megson then backing him with a relatively huge amount of money, it was a nightmare. Coyle looks like a good appointment but I fear the damage may already have been done; we'll see what happens in January.
Did he pass the pipe?

Gartside has done more for this club than anyone in the last twenty years. He brought Allardyce in and gave him a 10 year deal. Unprecedented.

He gave Sammy Lee the job; a job he'd been understudying for, for nigh on 3 years. Who could have expected such a disaster?

He brought in Megson, who took us out of the bottom three and stabilised us albeit with boring negative football. He organised a bigger budget than any previous manager has ever seen. He sacked Megson when his position became untenable.

He brought in Coyle, and has so far been seen as right to do so and I for one hope Gartside continues in his role for many years to come. I suspect he won't though and then we'll see who is good for the club.

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Post by H. Pedersen » Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:29 pm

Can we get over this myth that Megson performed a miracle by keeping is up in 07-08? He inherited a team that had finished 7th the year before and was good enough to get into the quarter finals of the UEFA Cup. Oh and he had £12 million to work with. And he managed to avoid relegation by one point and a handful of goals. Nobody was jizzing in their pants when Redknapp kept Spurs up after their horrible start.

Megson was a terrible appointment, no question.

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Post by boltonboris » Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:34 pm

H. Pedersen wrote:Can we get over this myth that Megson performed a miracle by keeping is up in 07-08? He inherited a team that had finished 7th the year before and was good enough to get into the quarter finals of the UEFA Cup. Oh and he had £12 million to work with. And he managed to avoid relegation by one point and a handful of goals. Nobody was jizzing in their pants when Redknapp kept Spurs up after their horrible start.
Megson was a terrible appointment, no question.
Oh yes they were..

Plus, Spurs had a squad choc full of top players who were underperforming. We were left with a squad of inexperienced players with limited ability, albeit with a couple of starlets littered in there. Megson turned things around and along with his new signings kept us up.. That's what was needed, unfortunately, we showed signs of regression. Gartside stepped in and the rest, as they say, is history.

He's been magnificent for this club and I wouldn't swap him for any other chairman in the land.
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Post by n035209 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:45 pm

For god sake dont bring megson into this lets draw a line under this thread, before we repeat ourselves over and over again!!


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Post by thebish » Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:49 pm

H. Pedersen wrote:Can we get over this myth that Megson performed a miracle by keeping is up in 07-08? He inherited a team that had finished 7th the year before and was good enough to get into the quarter finals of the UEFA Cup. Oh and he had £12 million to work with. And he managed to avoid relegation by one point and a handful of goals. Nobody was jizzing in their pants when Redknapp kept Spurs up after their horrible start.

Megson was a terrible appointment, no question.

I think we should steer clear of the megson debate once more..

BUT - I would be interested to hear how and why you would have kept hold of want-away allardyce at the time....

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Post by TKIZ! » Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:55 pm

Hey Bastards, we have Sampions Ligue wind up
Pfffft.

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Post by H. Pedersen » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:35 pm

By giving him some of the £40 million Megson ended up getting. I understand that Allardyce probably wanted a lot of money, and if Megson had stabilized us at 13th place on the type of budget Coyle and Allardyce had access to then I could understand letting Allardyce leave. However, we plunged down the table even though Megson was spending unheard of amounts on transfers and the wage bill was exploding.

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Post by thebish » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:09 pm

H. Pedersen wrote:By giving him some of the £40 million Megson ended up getting. I understand that Allardyce probably wanted a lot of money, and if Megson had stabilized us at 13th place on the type of budget Coyle and Allardyce had access to then I could understand letting Allardyce leave. However, we plunged down the table even though Megson was spending unheard of amounts on transfers and the wage bill was exploding.

you think that offering allardyce a bigger transfer kitty would have been

1. money well spent (see who he did buy shortly afterwards with his newcastle budget)
2. enough to keep him (given his increasingly frenetic efforts to land himself a "bigger" job)

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Post by Gary the Enfield » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:11 pm

H. Pedersen wrote:By giving him some of the £40 million Megson ended up getting. I understand that Allardyce probably wanted a lot of money, and if Megson had stabilized us at 13th place on the type of budget Coyle and Allardyce had access to then I could understand letting Allardyce leave. However, we plunged down the table even though Megson was spending unheard of amounts on transfers and the wage bill was exploding.
Not initially we didn't. And when we did start to slide Gartside got rid. Seeing as this is a post about Gartside I still maintain he's done a bloody good job overall.

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